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Wed 04/20/16 12:52 PM


Here is the actual content of the so called 'satanic' pamphlet. I agree with the blogger, its cute.

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/the_satanic_childrens_big_book_of_activities_is_actually_pretty_cute

I don't really get why these atheists call themselves 'satanic'. Previously, most people accepted that the term 'satanic' meant 'devil worshiping'.


Because it gets attention.


Most atheists I know are deep thinkers moved primarily by an earnest desire to explore honest (delusion free) ways of understanding reality.

So I didn't want to believe that this group would act on some childish emo desire for attention.

But I think you are right. If it's not the pathetic emo angle, then maybe its part of an well considered marketing strategy - to get a larger audience with an audacious name.

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Tue 04/12/16 01:20 PM

You may not find this use of the phrase offensive MsHarmony, but there are many brainwashed BLM supporters who get infuriated when a white person makes a comment like this; I read their posts on facebook and sometimes even hear them rant in person.

Many of today's anti-racists don't hesitate to use whatever dishonest tactic they can to control the conversation and silence other views. Bill Clinton was absolutely right about that point in his speech: They do not want to hear the truth.




no argument there,, these are humans, we find all kinds


the context of what he said was pointing out how his actions were in line with black lives matter and not against them,,,,not to challenge the movement itself


Yes, I agree with you. He was not trying to challenge the BLM movement. He was (a) trying to shut down one (or a few?) irate and out of control protester who kept screeching her talking points and who had no interest in an actual discussion. Also, he was (b) trying to defend some decision that he made years ago, on the basis that those decisions were good for "black lives" - literally. He probably had other goals, those were 2 that I saw and I agree he wasn't trying to invalidate the BLM movement.

My point is that the dominant voices in the BLM movement are so narrow minded, intolerant, and irrational that they won't stand for _any_ invocation of the phrase "Black Lives Matter" which isn't focused exclusively on their agenda. Taking the phrase literally is strictly verboten, and is (insanely) seen by many as the mark of a 'racist'.

So even though he had no intention of challenging the validity of the larger BLM movement, many people are going to (unfairly) interpret his statements as if he were.

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Sat 04/09/16 06:29 AM




"I talked to a lot of African-American groups. They thought black lives mattered. They said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals," Clinton said.


Oh no he didn't!!!

Didn't he hear how the culture has changed lately? Using the phrase Black Lives Matter in *any* context other than 'black people dying during interactions with the police' is one of the worst ThoughtCrimes a white person can commit in 2016.


One protester yelled that “black youth are not super predators” – a reference to a statement Hillary Clinton made as first lady.



Sigh.


well, he didn't say he used the phrase,,,he said he talked to black people who were using the phrase and concerned about the violence in their communities


You missed or ignore the point of his post. But since YOU brought it up Clinton said he "talked to a lot of African-American groups. They THOUGHT black lives mattered." He didn't say they used the phrase.



even better, making mention of whether the phrase is acceptable to say irrelevant'


the point I Was trying to make


Smartazzjohn is correct.

I talked to a lot of African-American groups. They thought black lives mattered; they said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals


You may not find this use of the phrase offensive MsHarmony, but there are many brainwashed BLM supporters who get infuriated when a white person makes a comment like this; I read their posts on facebook and sometimes even hear them rant in person.

Many of today's anti-racists don't hesitate to use whatever dishonest tactic they can to control the conversation and silence other views. Bill Clinton was absolutely right about that point in his speech: They do not want to hear the truth.

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Fri 04/08/16 04:52 PM
Edited by massagetrade on Fri 04/08/16 04:54 PM
"I talked to a lot of African-American groups. They thought black lives mattered. They said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals," Clinton said.


Oh no he didn't!!!

Didn't he hear how the culture has changed lately? Using the phrase Black Lives Matter in *any* context other than 'black people dying during interactions with the police' is one of the worst ThoughtCrimes a white person can commit in 2016.


One protester yelled that “black youth are not super predators” – a reference to a statement Hillary Clinton made as first lady.



Sigh.

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Fri 04/08/16 04:40 PM

I don't know what to expect anymore.


Don't worry about it. There are so many people who are so into making snap judgments that a the most successful dating app ever was designed to exploit this cultural norm.

Its not you.

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Fri 04/08/16 01:25 PM
Edited by massagetrade on Fri 04/08/16 01:26 PM
Wow. Thanks Sassy for posting this. I always thought bankers were boring.


I agree, Ciretom:


IMO this hurts the transgender cause more than anything.

....

So it seems that people can just make that easy leap to "this surgery doesn't make them a dragon, so maybe that surgery doesn't turn him into a woman, he's just mutilated himself and looks silly."

Which is not what transgender people want others to believe.



Transgender activists are not fond of 'otherkin'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otherkin



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Fri 04/08/16 11:44 AM

* When Black men pastors start being decapitated by Islam & Satan worshippers.. Yea know..for blasphemy charges & you (attempt to) blame the police, or sitting white president... :wink: message me, so I can say,
' I tried to warn you.. Sorry, make a thread & a hash tag & call it a movement * indifferent



I often appreciate your sense of humor, SassyEuro, but sometimes I'm not sure which parts might be serious. Do you think that Satan worshippers are any kind of threat to anyone, in 2016?


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Fri 04/08/16 11:32 AM
Since so few people on college campuses are willing to call out the worst of the racist and bigoted 'anti racists', the insanity has just gotten worse in recent years.

The response to "Trump 2016" chalking is a great example of how this vile cult-like "safe space" and "trigger warning" movement is actually playing out wherever young liberals have influence.

They _claim_ they 'feel threatened' by protected speech such as "Trump 2016" written in chalk on the sidewalk. Since there is a popular ideological movement structured to support the idea that other people are responsible for our own feelings - that the universe owes us a life free from unpleasant emotional experiences - their bizarre claims and demands are taken seriously.

Some of these despicable manipulators are actively, intentionally seeking to suppress other people's ideas and opinions by claiming they 'feel threatened'.

Others are so far removed from reality, that they actually do feel threatened without any rational cause. One healthy response to this is to challenge that person's beliefs, give them the opportunity to grow and mature into someone who doesn't live in fear built only on lies. The 'safe space' movement does the exact opposite. The result is increasing numbers of people feeling threatened without cause. By indulging their delusions, we make life worse for them in the long run.


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Fri 04/08/16 10:43 AM



kkk isn't relevant? they are a huge portion of those voting for and supporting Trump


Are you saying that you believe that a large percentaged of Trump supporters are KKK members?


no, I believe a large percentage of kkk members support Trump, believing he supports their message of a white nation




I'm with Moe on this. The kkk is relevant to understanding the present through understanding history, and they are 'relevant' as a coalmine canary for freedom of speech issues; but otherwise they aren't socially/politically relevant today.

...they were in their heyday in the 1920s, when they boasted nearly 5 million members. Levin says the Klan has a membership of about 5,000. The Southern Poverty Law Center gives a lower estimate of around 3,000.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/us/klan-numbers/


... kkk members support Trump, believing he supports their message of a white nation


Can we all agree that members of the kkk are not the brightest? Who cares what they believe about a candidate? If some percentage of these 3,000 - 5,000 idiots think Trump is the second coming of christ - I mean, who cares?

I've seen relentless anti-trump propagandizing in which we are invited to think that _because_ some other person or group likes him, therefore we should not like him. I think this is a low form of manipulation. (Not saying you are doing it! Just using this as a opportunity to soapbox against what I see elsewhere).

We should judge Trump based on his own actions and words, not the way that some of those 3,000 kkk idiots interpret him.

It makes me wonder, though, why anti-Trump people choose to use such dishonest tactics to paint him as a racist. Maybe he is not as racist as the media makes him appear.


but I do know the kkk has been recently in the news quite a bit for representing and supporting trump


Yeah, the Trump candidacy (like BLM) is polarizing; polarizing topics are exploited by the media, with little regard for the truth. They make so much money off our emotional re-activeness, and both BLM and Trump get a lot of inaccurate coverage.

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Thu 04/07/16 10:00 PM

I have read where the leader said that, I know
and that doesn't represent the majority of black folks



well, i think it does...



Why?
Why do you think it represents the majority of black folks?



the two words "kill white" have appeared more times recently than any other "kill _________" people get pissed when others talk of killing animals, but it's ok to "kill white" anything?

just shows what obarry wants from his presidency, another civil war... another reason for the liberals to enact more invasive laws on EVERYONE... sad that liberals can't/won't see whats going on...


I agree that there is a serious problem, especially with today's youth in the 'anti racist' communities at universities, of outright bigotry, hatred, racism, contempt towards white people (simply for being white, or believing in freedom of speech, or believing that facts should matter) and that these destructive attitudes are being normalized in those communities. "Anti racists" openly blog, tweet, and post youtube videos making plain their contempt for white people, and broadcasting the twisted rationalizations they use to justify fostering racism and bigotry.

But the majority of black folks??? The majority of black folks over the age of 30 that I've discussed this with are too smart and wise for this poisonous form of 'anti racism'. The majority of black folks I know simple want the US to be less racist, and otherwise generally want everyone to get along.

I think there may be something like 40 million black people in the US. Imagine the noise that even the tiniest slice of that number can make. Its usually the worst part of any group who is the loudest. I see no reason to think that the majority of black people are like that.

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Thu 04/07/16 08:18 PM

kkk isn't relevant? they are a huge portion of those voting for and supporting Trump


Are you saying that you believe that a large percentaged of Trump supporters are KKK members?

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Thu 04/07/16 05:57 PM


I have read where the leader said that, I know

and that doesn't represent the majority of black folks


,,,,exactly right


well, i think it does...


Why?

Why do you think it represents the majority of black folks?

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Thu 04/07/16 05:53 PM
Edited by massagetrade on Thu 04/07/16 06:03 PM


The G.I. Joe doll is out....G.I. Person is in laugh



For about 90 days.. Then G.I - Zee

frustrated


laugh laugh

I'm sure some SJW is designing GI Zee right now...


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Thu 04/07/16 05:18 PM
Here is the actual content of the so called 'satanic' pamphlet. I agree with the blogger, its cute.

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/the_satanic_childrens_big_book_of_activities_is_actually_pretty_cute

I don't really get why these atheists call themselves 'satanic'. Previously, most people accepted that the term 'satanic' meant 'devil worshiping'.

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Thu 04/07/16 05:14 PM
Edited by massagetrade on Thu 04/07/16 05:15 PM
I found the actual so-called "Satanic" pamphlet in the newscast.

I was wrong about a Christian blogger being the cause of the mis-understanding, the actual news channel ran with "Satanic" without any clarification.

Here is a quote from the so called "Satanic" groups webpage:

DO YOU WORSHIP SATAN?
It is the position of The Satanic Temple that religion can, and should, be divorced from superstition. As such, we do not promote a belief in a personal Satan. To embrace the name Satan is to embrace rational inquiry removed from supernaturalism and archaic tradition-based superstitions. The Satanist should actively work to hone critical thinking and exercise reasonable agnosticism in all things. Our beliefs must be malleable to the best current scientific understandings of the material world — never the reverse.

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Thu 04/07/16 05:06 PM

"School district to distribute atheist, satanic BROCHURES to students"


Well.. Some of you made Satan smile.


Sassy, are you quoting this in response to my question of documenting the titles of the alleged satanic material?

Most atheists do not believe in any devils, and generally do not want to promote that kind of mythology. However, there is a book titled "The Satanic Bible" which advocates for a particular brand of atheism confusingly called LaVeyan Satanism:

Practitioners do not believe that the character of Satan literally exists and do not worship him.


I'd wager some Christian blogger saw the word "Satanism", did not know of LaVey, and ran with their mis-understanding. And now other bloggers are claiming that "Satanic" brochures are being handed out, leading people to think that the brochures advocate for devil worshiping.


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Thu 04/07/16 04:37 PM
This reminds me of these black kids who think they own the park - violently assaulting a white mother and her baby:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3141904/Police-issue-warrant-teen-attacked-girl-holding-baby-horrific-video.html

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Thu 04/07/16 04:30 PM
Edited by massagetrade on Thu 04/07/16 04:33 PM


The problem is that it is fair. Free Speech in the US applies to all speech not just the speech people like. If Christian Bible can be given to student or are allowed in schools then all other religions must be allowed to be distributed in school as well.


Wtf? The Bible isn't given out in schools.


From what I've read of this issue, the school does have the Christian bible available in their library. And now they are going to have atheist literature available in the same way that the bible is available.

I don't know if this should be called 'distribution' in either case; its not like the bible or the atheist material is being handed out to each individual student, its just being made available in the library.

Edit: I wasn't able to confirm that truly satanic literature is involved, does anyone have a link that documents the actual publication titles? Maybe some blogger confused LaVey's "Satanic Bible" (an atheist book that does not condone devil worship) with actual devil worship.

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Fri 03/18/16 08:05 PM

So what your saying is, they are not much better than any other platform, give or take a little wiggle room to deceive the buying public?


I meant to speak about Apple's values, culture, and history more so than their platforms. Apple has OSX, iOS, as well as all of their services. The security of these platforms and services varies. Apple has been really behind the curve for years in securing their cloud services.

On the other hand, recent iPhones have rather uncommon and impressive security features, but they are not unique and they are the result of a company pursuing a market, rather than a company that has a history and a culture of valuing privacy, security, code quality.

The people who created Lavabit - those people truly value privacy and security as core values, not as mere marketing strategies. The same thing for the creators of the Blackphone.

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Fri 03/18/16 02:28 PM


Nooooo.......don't huting me again~~~~~I need normal people to consern about the topic~~~~~not just woodies~~~~woodies won't bite~~~~~they stinckle~~~~~~Mummmmmy~~~~~~~~~~~drinks


Fascinating.

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