sure does count...i missed the first time it came through..may go to
this one.saw pics of the exhibits though.looked interesting

love is a disease curable by marriage...couldnt tell you who said
it...read it somewhere years ago

hey lips...welcome to jsh,lots of cool guys and gals here,i hope you
make some freinds and have fun chatting it up here.

sadly other ppls lives are the basis of their own(gossip mongers that
is)

Holier Than thou
(Hetfield/Ulrich)(metallica)

No more!
The crap rolls out your mouth again
Haven't changed, Your brain is still gelatin
Little whispers circle around your head
Why don't you worry about yourself instead

Who are you? Where ya been? Where ya from?
Gossip burning on the tip of your tongue
You lie so much you believe yourself
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself

Holier than thou
You are
Holier than thou
You are
You know not

Before you judge me take a look at you
Can't you find something better to do
Point the finger, Slow to understand
Arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand

It's not who you are it's who you know
Others lives are the basis of your own
Burn your bridges build them back with wealth
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself

Holier than thou
You are
Holier than thou
You are
You know not

i hear ya...i watched them build the oceanarium at the shed aquariam and
still havnt been inside the thing...lol..still havnt been to millenium
park either..what a great chicagoin i am..i always end up doing
samething in summer...concerts and fests

nope..i got it...your a fasciast

Seat belt laws trivialize law enforcement

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February 23, 2007

Opinion Editorial

By Mike Krause
In the book Go Directly to Jail: The Criminalization of Almost
Everything, author James V. DeLong writes, "When the government
criminalizes almost everything, it also trivializes the very concept of
criminality."

A perfect example of this is Senate Bill 151, the primary seat belt law
currently under consideration in the Colorado Legislature. Far from a
legitimate public safety measure, this law is little more than a
finger-wagging nanny state edict, with high potential to distract police
from their public safety mission in favor of trivial enforcement of
unpopular personal behavior.

The Colorado State Patrol already rolls out en masse each year to
enforce Colorado's current secondary seat belt law through the zero
tolerance "Click It or Ticket" enforcement program—funded by your
federal tax dollars through the National Highway Transportation Safety
Administration—which includes the use of both unmarked and low-profile
(marked but with no rooftop light bar) patrol cars.

Yet according to the Patrol's own annual report, its highway safety
strategy relies on high "trooper visibility" on Colorado roads "in order
to deter motorists from engaging in dangerous or criminal behavior."

If this is so, how does the targeting of seat belt offenses in patrol
cars specifically intended not to be "highly visible" actually promote a
safe driving environment? The short answer is that it doesn't.

It also begs the question of what kind of enforcement we can expect with
a primary seat belt law.

In 2005, Maryland State Police began nighttime seat belt sting
operations utilizing night vision technology—the same equipment soldiers
use in combat—to enforce that state's primary seat belt law. The
Maryland Governor later shut the paramilitary sting operation down,
calling it "government intrusion into personal decision making."

Also in 2005, the Seattle Times reported, "In the three years since
state lawmakers gave cops the go-ahead to pull over people for not
wearing seat belts, the State Patrol has become creative about spotting
scofflaws." One such creative waste of manpower involved plainclothes
Washington State Patrol troopers standing on street corners holding
"Buckle Up" signs, peeking into car windows and radioing ahead to
waiting patrol cars to ticket those not wearing seat belts.

As Ted Balaker from the Reason Public Policy Institute puts it, "since
drivers who don't buckle up aren't making anyone else less safe, laws
that bear down on these people don't make other motorists any safer
either."

In January, public safety officials told the Joint Budget Committee that
a primary seat belt law could save some seventy lives a year, but where
this number comes from is a bit of a mystery.

During the 2006 debate over a primary seat belt law (like in a horror
movie, this law keeps on coming back from the dead) advocates lined up
282 pairs of shoes on the Capitol steps—representing the number of
people killed in crashes in 2004 who were not wearing seat—in an attempt
to guilt lawmakers into passing the law.

At the time, Denver Post Columnist Ed Quillen asked a basic question "of
those 282 people who died in 2004 who were not wearing seat belts, how
many would have been pulled over for not wearing seat belts, then
decided to change their ways, and then were involved in an accident
where seat belts would have made a difference?"

Of course, no one really knows, but the short answer is probably not
very many.

Editorializing against the primary seat belt law, the Rocky Mountain
News notes, "Even in primary-offense states, seat belt use varies; it's
as low as 74 percent in Tennessee. And in seven states where seat belt
laws are secondary offenses-including Arizona, Nevada and Utah in the
Mountain West-residents buckle up more often than the national average,
with rates reaching 95 percent."

And indeed, according to statistics from the National Highway
Transportation Safety Administration, seat belt use in Colorado has been
steadily increasing, from around 65 percent in 2000 to over 80 percent
in 2006. And this has happened without a primary seat-belt nanny-state
edict.

Simply put, a primary seat belt law has the potential to make the
enforcement priorities and tactics of Colorado law enforcement as silly
as the seat belt law itself, which in turn leads to a general lack of
respect for the law.

Scrapping the primary seat belt law would be a good step for Colorado
lawmakers who care more about the integrity of the rule of law than the
personal safety choices of individual Coloradoans

i suppose by your logic these people are whiners and crybabys to...even
though way more acredited and experienced in this area than yourselves

hey bud,welcome..cool lookin kittys

say whatever you like...ppl have read everything you have posted and
think you are as full of **** as i do.and at their request i will now
leave this thread for you trolls to have the last word...cause thats all
this is really about.bye bye

wow...that made all your lies and bull**** go away...well
said...hillbilly

pathetic trolls trying to comendeer a thread...look at you!

oldsage...why do you keep posting here man?...you are a troll thats
why....you are the pathetic type of person who thinks ppl like him more
if he jumps in their side of an argument....sad part is...in this place
that pathetic tactic works well...have fun with that buddy...jut
remember this you jaded old snot...i never said **** to you.....whos the
****ing whiney kid now?

like a said b4 last recoarse of the witless...correct someone spelling

im hurting myself because 2 self diluded self rightous over the hill
whackos dont like my posts?...keep reachin there buddy...maybe someone
will beleive your bull****

lol...man you ****ing hillbillys slay me....you quote monetary impact
studys of the uninsured to society...when you dont have a pot to piss
in.who did that study?...you are sheep who beleive all you are told to
beleive..and your incesint need to be right and to be liked has blinded
you to the injustice a law like that does to all americans.without ppl
like me ppl like you would be in a ****ing camp right now..we ask the
hard questions whether we are liked for it or not...we are ppl of
action...ppl like you just eat sleep and live whatever is put in front
of you...****ing sheep

you havnt said one constructive thing since you have posted here
sage...you just keep defending the lier.that will make alot like you im
sure...one sure fire way to get alot of"freinds" on a site like
this...kiss ass and jump on the first person you see at odds with a
women

lol...priceless

YOU HAVE TO DO THIS EVEN THOUGH IT ULTIMATELLY AFFECTS NO ONE BUT
YOU...im sorry but that is wrong

lol...how do you get that self serving tripe from what i wrote?
laws are made to tell you what not to do I.E murder...dont do
it...speeding....dont do it.....rape...dont do it.....these laws are in
place because in doing any of these acts you will affect another.to make
a law that says you HAVE TO DO something or you will receive punishment
is un-american