Topic: Panthiest
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Wed 03/26/08 11:37 AM
I wasn't SCARED TO ask ANYTHING. fact is...I didnt know HOW to ask it. I may not be as articulate as many here...and YES I ADMIT IT...i am not always able to get across what I am trying to ask


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Wed 03/26/08 11:46 AM

I wasn't SCARED TO ask ANYTHING. fact is...I didnt know HOW to ask it. I may not be as articulate as many here...and YES I ADMIT IT...i am not always able to get across what I am trying to ask


to admit now that you didn't know how to ask is what I said in that first paragraph so then why do you keep getting mad at me ..I'm not here to hurt anyone I actually want to know ..no one will tell you anything beyond their belief because it's obvious their belief forbids them to go beyond the belief ..so sometimes you may have to push them beyond the belief by asking them the hard questions ...

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Wed 03/26/08 11:48 AM
I stated at the beginning of this d@mn thread i didn't know how to explain what i was asking!!!!!

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Wed 03/26/08 11:57 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 03/26/08 12:04 PM


panthiest believe they are God


...er.. feralcatlady ...so wouldn't that mean that Jesus was a Pantheist?


DISCLAIMER
I (Funches) is not trying to start trouble because I felt like this is a legitimate question to ask



God is a Triune Being, yet One God.
There is only ONE GOD....yet still 3 persons in one.
Father ...Son ...Holy Spirit.
YET ONE God.

That is what Jesus meant when he said ,"I and the Father are One".

To better understand this......
look at man....

Man is 3 beings in 1 also...yes?

Man lives in a Physical house (body )
has a soul
and a spirit

See?

3 in one....

So ... that would mean that man's soul for instance, is only one separate part of man's triune being..yet all 3 parts of man's being , is STILL ONE MAN.

God is also a Triune Being....3 in one......
Father.. Son ....Holy Spirit...
YET ONE GOD!!!!

Amen.flowerforyou


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Wed 03/26/08 12:00 PM
well abracadrabra it's nice to see that you understand that I wasn't trying to offend Pantheists but was just trying to explain the belief in a way that everyone could possibly understand it and if I was wrong about parts of it you would interject


I have never seen you post anything offensive to anyone. All I’ve ever seen are people being offended by the truths that you post and the question that you pose.

And I agree with you comment about pantheism being ‘NEW AGE’ only in the sense that a lot of people who had been raised under the dogma of Christianity finally realized that a better picture of God exists. So for them it would be “new”. But the actually philosophy is quite ancient. Even bit as ancient as any of the religions that contain deities.

...er.. feralcatlady ...so wouldn't that mean that Jesus was a Pantheist?

DISCLAIMER
I (Funches) is not trying to start trouble because I felt like this is a legitimate question to ask


That’s an absolutely valid question to ask. And I personally believe that Jesus was indeed a Pantheist and was just misunderstood. The people who wrote about him twisted his words to make them fit their preconceived mythologies (many of which were borrowed from the Greeks).

There are claims that Jesus did in fact write things down, but those writings were destroyed because they didn’t fit in with the picture that people wanted to use Jesus to portray.

Besides, you can’t have a savior and a flood that destroys all of humanity in the same story of a supposedly unchanging God. The God either offers salvation, or he flushes the toilet. He can’t be arbitrarily doing bother randomly. Such a God would be extremely unpredictable and undependable. You couldn’t trust anything this God does or says because it’s likely to change its mind again tomorrow.

It’s a picture of a completely irresponsible and untrustworthy God.

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Wed 03/26/08 12:04 PM

Man is 3 beings in 1 also..yes?

Man lives in a Physical house (body )
has a soul
and a spirit


Soul and spirit are just two different words that refer to the same concept.

Wherever your soul is, so is your spirit.

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Wed 03/26/08 12:07 PM

Nevermind feral...

It seems she may be sleepwalking through her own posts...


Good eyes Wiley...

glasses





Got something to say....go for it.....I have always known what panthiest believe I didn't know that was something you did not know....Do I believe in it.....Not on your life...I love nature but God created all....I love all that God created but I would never in a million years call his works god including myself....nope never happen.

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Wed 03/26/08 12:08 PM

IMO it's an excuse to do as they please and makes it so they are not held accountable for anything......jmo


I can certainly see how that is quantified after reading this.

Nature is our mother, our home, our security, our peace, our past and our future. We should treat natural things and habitats as believers treat their temples and shrines, as sacred - to be revered and preserved in all their intricate and fragile beauty.





I do......I am big and huge on saving this planet....but I don't think that the trees and flowers and animals that live on it are god......

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Wed 03/26/08 12:10 PM


IMO it's an excuse to do as they please and makes it so they are not held accountable for anything......jmo


I can certainly see how that is quantified after reading this.

Nature is our mother, our home, our security, our peace, our past and our future. We should treat natural things and habitats as believers treat their temples and shrines, as sacred - to be revered and preserved in all their intricate and fragile beauty.





I do......I am big and huge on saving this planet....but I don't think that the trees and flowers and animals that live on it are god......


Neither do I. But I believe that all things are a part of God. And God is a part of all things.

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Wed 03/26/08 12:15 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 03/26/08 12:28 PM


Man is 3 beings in 1 also..yes?




Soul and spirit are just two different words that refer to the same concept.

Wherever your soul is, so is your spirit.


Abra...soul and spirit are NOT the same.

Spirit..... is that part of man that God says, must be born again.

Soul.... consists of mind ,thoughts ,will ,emotions ,feelings, and affections .
That part of man(his soul) ,is an entirely separate part from man's spirit .

Body....that part of man (the fleshly house) consisting of flesh, blood and bone..the part that returns to dust , once man departs from his earthly body.

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Wed 03/26/08 12:23 PM



Abra.. you wrote and I quote.....

Besides, you can’t have a savior and a flood that destroys all of humanity in the same story of a supposedly unchanging God. The God either offers salvation, or he flushes the toilet. He can’t be arbitrarily doing bother randomly. Such a God would be extremely unpredictable and undependable. You couldn’t trust anything this God does or says because it’s likely to change its mind again tomorrow.

It’s a picture of a completely irresponsible and untrustworthy God.



Abra....once more.....

God WILL NEVER

EVER

EVER


EVER.......

MAke sense thru the INTELLECT!!!

NEVER!!

ONLY thru a Born again Spirit, will the things of God FINALLY Make Sense!!!

wiley's photo
Wed 03/26/08 12:24 PM

Abra....once more.....

God WILL NEVER

EVER

EVER


EVER.......

MAke sense thru the INTELLECT!!!

NEVER!!

ONLY thru a Born again Spirit, will the things of God FINALLY Make Sense!!!


Convenient thing about faith. It never requires proof.

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Wed 03/26/08 12:27 PM



IMO it's an excuse to do as they please and makes it so they are not held accountable for anything......jmo


I can certainly see how that is quantified after reading this.

Nature is our mother, our home, our security, our peace, our past and our future. We should treat natural things and habitats as believers treat their temples and shrines, as sacred - to be revered and preserved in all their intricate and fragile beauty.





I do......I am big and huge on saving this planet....but I don't think that the trees and flowers and animals that live on it are god......


Neither do I. But I believe that all things are a part of God. And God is a part of all things.


I agree with that.....but their is a difference between God being part of everything and everything being god..There is God and then God created all that we have. And yes this is only my belief.....but nonetheless for me it just is....as is God....He is, Was, and always Will Be.

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Wed 03/26/08 12:32 PM
Define everything feral...

feralcatlady's photo
Wed 03/26/08 12:38 PM

Define everything feral...


I think I did.....at least in respect to panthiest and christian beliefs.....would you like me to define something else there creative.....laugh (and yes I did do that laugh)

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Wed 03/26/08 12:38 PM



ONLY thru a Born again Spirit, will the things of God FINALLY Make Sense!!!


Convenient thing about faith. It never requires proof.


Wiley, when a man is truly born again, he KNOWS that he KNOWS that he KNOWS that something has happened in his spirit..He KNOWS without a shadow of doubt, that his spirit has truly become BORN AGAIN....cause God SPIRIT bears witness with his spirit.
God does NOT leave man in the dark, still quessing about whether or not he is truly born again,after becoming born again.... trust me.

(as an aside... love that blackbird pic you sometimes display on your profile, Wiley...been wanting to ask you, where did you find that pic ...love itlaugh )....

creativesoul's photo
Wed 03/26/08 12:38 PM

Every vile nasty things that happens to the human population is of satan not God.


or in response to this...

But I believe that all things are a part of God. And God is a part of all things.


You said this...

I agree with that.....but their is a difference between God being part of everything and everything being god..


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Wed 03/26/08 12:45 PM
Get a clue feral..

I think they are in the sex threads...laugh

creativesoul's photo
Wed 03/26/08 12:46 PM
Or maybe the 420 thread your best friend hosts...

Smokin blunts and all...laugh

Hardy har har...

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Wed 03/26/08 12:48 PM


Every vile nasty things that happens to the human population is of satan not God.



ANSWER TO THE ABOVE SELF EXPLANITORY

or in response to this...

But I believe that all things are a part of God. And God is a part of all things.


THIS IS WHAT KILLS ME ABOUT YOU GUYS....NOT MY QUOTE...IF YOUR GOING TO QUOTE ME.....MAKE SURE IT'S MINE.....DUH

You said this...

I agree with that.....but their is a difference between God being part of everything and everything being god..


AGAIN I WOULD SAY SELF EXPLANITORY FOR MOST.....YES I AGREE THAT GOD IS PART OF EVERYTHING FOR HE CREATED IT.....BUT IN DOING SO HE DID NOT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM SAY.......THIS IS A TREE AND GOD, THIS IS A FLOWER, AND GOD....THIS IS A WIND AND GOD....UNDERSTAND.