I have more to say, but I will be silent for now

then ur silence is respected

Amen.

Bless me, Sherrie for I have sinned....

I have excessive wealth, so abundant it is immeasurable...


What do I do now, is this the bit where, I am supposed to feel guilty?

No. You’re supposed to bundle up your excess wealth and send it to me.

If it’s in the form of health and happiness you can mail it to me telepathically.

Done...sent express.

What a Great Topic!!!!! Kudos for the Creator (The Topic CREATOR that is ).

What do I think...Well usually "I don't, unless I'm paid", but for this I will make an exception!

Hypocracy at it's finest....leave it to the Cathlic church to once again stumble over it's own feet for the self serving purpose of it's own gain.

Firstly and foremost, Did God not create the Original Deadly sins for which we all follow and find purposeful, not the Cathlic Church?

Secondly,
I may be mislead or mistaken...
but doesn't #1, 4, 5 and 7 contradict one another?
Doesn't over popullation of a planet that can not support the ever expanding populous, consist of: Creating, poverty, Polluting the environment, and hence directly contributing to the divide between Rich and Poor?

Does the Church (not simply restricted to Catholosism) not directly Violate #6 (I've been to the Vatican) and #7 through the unspoken expectation of weekly contributions from all (a good number of whom can ill afford it)?

Isn't #3 simply natures crude way of protecting herself from #4 and #1 (survival of the fittest as it where)?

and lastly....
With the exception of Stem Cell Research, don't the original Deadly sins pretty much cover the other 6?

Just some thoughts...But then I am obviously ignorant and confused. Think I'll stick with God's ORIGINAL list and keep it simple for this small mind.

~ The Currency of Love ~


I’m so happy!
I’m so healthy!
Jessie Lee has made me wealthy

Her telepathic Fax
came without the tax
of sinful wages
paid by sages
from Deuteronomy to Acts

Life is so abundant
and wealth is free to share
for all of those
who’s spirit flows
like a ghostly millionaire

Placing worth in living things
and the feelings in their soul
no need to stamp “In God we Trust”
on the things that we extol

We should all be sinners
if being rich in life is sin
sharing our excessive wealth
from our bank of hope within

Everyone’s a millionaire
in the currency of love
embracing one another
with the tenderness thereof



Abra (3/16/08)
(telepathically inspired by Jess Lee)

You are not mistaken at all Gams.

I pointed this out a few posts back. If they took #1 to mean abstinence then fine. But all they really end up doing is having sex for fun and making more babies with absolutely no responsibly for family planning!!!

I’m in total agreement. It’s the epitome of hypocrisy and just goes to show how ignorance, and a fanatical adherence to ancient superstitions can backfire to create an undesirable situation.

I’m completely convinced that God had no intention for mankind to become STUPID.

It’s simply WISE to use family planning and birth control methods in this day and age.

I mean, if people are going to abstain from sex because they believe it’s against God’s desire that they should embrace that actively for the pure pleasure of it, then so be it. Let them abstain from having sex then!!!

But if they are going to go ahead and indulge in the activity because they enjoy it and just refuse to do it responsibly in the name of God,… well,… that’s just plain sick!

i can see that post relating to you

ok if you say so

I'm sorry. what?

Yes




Don't worry though ... it is not a "deadly sin" ... so no eternal burning in that place... you may be forgiven.


Just repeat "I love my life" 7 times and frolic in the ocean and all is washed clean

Thank you for joining us Gams. I must be "ignorant and confused" too because I cannot make sense of this at all.

We are talking about intelligent, educated people ... I am confused first how they arrive at the notion that it is necessary to declare new sins for its followers at all ... and then secondly the redundancy of the ones they chose seems head-shakingly naive ... and they are anything but that ....

...or this is a case of bureaucracy at its finest ... too many meetings ... strong personalities ... charismatic speakers winning support from colleagues ... the content is secondary as is the notion if it is necessary at all ...

this wreaks of ego and man to me ... I do not see the 'divine' in this at all...

I find it quite curious...

Oh what an excellent penance.... I think I will go wash away my worries in this manner- I don't believe in "sins" but I do worry too much sometimes!!!

TY for the good idea!

One would think so... but apparently there IS some way to just keep breeding and breeding and yet it will not lead to destruction of natural resources or a lack of basic necessities.

Perhaps the exact methodology for achieving this will be the popes next message...



Should that occur I will be delighted to embrace it as a true miracle.

just agreeing with your description to a point

not sure what yer post refers to

do not know why you should be sorry

Nope Pope Gregory in the 6th century created the 7 deadly sins.
In fact it was the church that separated sins into venial and mortal.

I haven't seen anything new there except for one; the birth control thing. I am not too sure about that one.

As for wealth; nothing wrong there according to the bible. But we are expected to share it. Use it for good. Not horde it and use it for wrong doing.
Except that wealth can and does change the hearts and minds of many.

Kat

This isn’t really new at all. The Catholic church has always held that it’s a sin to have sex for the pure enjoyment of it. If you are using birth control methods, then there can be no doubt that you are having sex just for the bliss of it and you have no intention of procreating.

This is where this idea comes from. The problem is that it’s an idea that backfires in reality. Pronouncing birth control as a sin won’t cause people to refrain from having sex for the pure pleasure of it. All it will do is result in people having more babies than they can afford to raise properly. It also shirks any responsibly for planned parenthood or the responsible control of overpopulation.

Moreover, an Catholic couple that have sex during pregnancy would be sinning, because the previous pregnancy is already a natural from of birth control to prevent a second pregnancy from taking place until the first one comes to term.

So for a Catholic couple to truly not sin they would have to refrain from having sex for the nine months of each pregnancy. Otherwise they would be having sex for the pure pleasure of it.

In fact, I don’t know why the pope even mentions birth control. What he should really say is that it’s a sin to have sex for the pure pleasure of it without intent to procreate. Then it would be an automatic that if you’re using birth control you’re clearly committing a sin.

Personally I don’t believe that God would consider the making of love to be a sin, even if it is done for the pure ecstasy of it. As long as it’s done between a genuinely loving couple, or if one cares to believe, only within the convenient of Holy Matrimony.

The idea that God would consider such a loving act shared between loving people to be a sin is utter nonsense to me. And the idea that God wouldn’t want parents to be responsible and only have offspring that they can afford to raise properly can certainly not be a bad thing.

From my point of view this whole thing is nothing more than giving credence to ancient superstitions of ancient civilizations that didn’t even have the wisdom and knowledge of good birth control methods. Also, over population wasn’t a consideration back then. I think this kind of thinking might have also been a ploy by the church to encourage their followers to procreate more thus creating a larger congregation of followers.

Times have changed. Today we have decent methods of birth control and we do have an over population problem. Having more kids than a family can afford is not a good idea.

Like I say, the Catholics who actually refrain from having sex altogether other than when they genuinely intend on having a child will impress me. But the ones who just take this to mean that they can’t use birth control methods and they go right ahead have continuous sex without being responsible for how many babies they make are only fooling themselves.

That kind of behavior should be a sin in and of itself!