It is not a disappointint to me, I was making note of the ties that Clintons' keep to those who seem to have a 'criminal' nature in their lives.

Obama is so far ahead of Clinton, I really think he will get the nomination. Does not look too good for her, and quite frankly, I am glad. Not that I would vote for Obama, but Clintons need to be 'knocked down to size' and their own party is doing it!

Geraldine Feraro made a racist statement about Obama today that has caused her to have to leave the Clinton campaign, she was in charge of the finances, I beleive.

Clinton's whole campaign has been a smear attack against Obama because he is black. How people can think differently is beyond my comprehension.

Lindyy

Lindyy,

I'm no big fan of Hillary, I was just stating the facts.

I agree with you that Obama will probably win the nomination.

Hillary's distaste for Obama extends further than just the fact that he is black.

He is the young upstart that is standing in the way of her winning the Presidency.

Because of him, she has had to work harder for votes when she thought she had the nomination sewn up.

For this, he must be eliminated from the race (no pun intended) by any means possible.

Her stubborn refusal to leave the race is causing both candidates to spend too much time and money running against each other, when one of them could be using the same time and funds to run against McCain.

With Hillary Clinton, this is hubris in the extreme.

Oh, my. This is scarey.

We kind of agree on something!

But, imo, for Geraldine Ferraro to make the statement that he would not be where he (Obama) is today if he were not black, well, I mean that is just making them (Clintons) look so much worse, and I think irritating people to the point that are voting FOR Obama because they are fed up with the Clinton campaign racist remarks.

I do not think Clintons are the political machine that they think they are.

Lindyy

The Clintons have been running a negative campaign from the start.

It's been more negative than any of the other campaigns, Republican or Democrat.

If Hillary somehow pulls a fast one and persuades a majority of the superdelegates to vote for her, I'm voting for McCain.

Oh, how it is fun to watch all of this unfold. It wasn't but a few weeks ago that Bill clinton was on a little media tour of states (most of which Hillary wound up losing) talking about Obama and at one point called him a "kid." I found that a rather odd brand of stupid when one considers the term "boy" and how close that comes to wandering upon some very dangerous ground.

What really cracked me up however was the other night when Mrs. Clinton suggested (out loud) that Obama might make a good VP while featuring her on the top of the ticket. What ego. She's getting her lunch handed to her almost on a daily basis now (despite her two recent wins, it's still been all Obama for the most part) and then suggets that he'd make a good VP??

I don't know which aide in her camp suggested such a moronic move but he/she is probably putting sprinkles on ice cream right in a Little Rock ice cream shop.

Anyway, Spitzer did the right thing by stepping down. He would never have survived the hit for this. Look, his personal shortcomings are really between him and his family. But those become public when he opens himself up to moral blackmail or possible extortion. He made a vow to his wife which is their business to fix but he took an oath to become Governor and that is where the line exists. And a fine line at that.

-Drew

Spitzer - it is his three daughters that are really being hurt. The man was so much 'in the spotlight', surely he had to have known the great risks of being caught. Unless, sometimes, I am no psychiatrist, it is said that people take such risks as they really want to be caught to get help. Who knows.

What is worse about his case, whether it be Democrat or Republican doing such, is that he served as an Attorney General with the posture of ridding crime, someone even mentioned he went after the Gambino family, and he especially prosecuted prostitution rings. I stated in prior posts that I thought he was rather brazen and taking a lot of risks - prosecuting and partaking.

He had no choice but to step down. And, imo, his political career is over. Was all of it worth it? The 'pleasure' is all gone and now he is left with what to show for it?

Lindyy

Topic: Hillary's Buddy Involved in Prostitution Ring

well this is a misleading statement

he was involved in the ring

as he has not been charged with the management of it

but he has used said ring the ring

one word really can make a big difference in the meaning

adj:

I think over time more will come out, it was stated in the Complaint that he has been active in the prostitution ring for 6-7 years, so.......

Regardless, what he did was illegal, and for a governor that is unacceptable.

How is your morning going so far?

Lindyy

well still on the snowy side of the grass

and thank you for understanding what i was saying

it is kinda like *** separation of church and state ***

it has been said so often

people assume it is correct

i challange any one to show me that wording in the constitution

do not get me wrong i am not advocating govt and religion

but that wording changes the meaning

adju4......

You are splitting hairs. Involved means to contain, include as a part, or to draw in. Surely the man was "included" in the ring as "a part" since he was "drawn in" by the prostitutes for whom he paid big bucks for their services. Geez, you sound like a high-priced lawyer who is getting ready to defend the guy? Are you sticking up for him?

involved is not the word in question

in is the word in question

not involved in

he was involved with

------

that is like saying the

person that buys a new car is involved in its manufacturing company

which is incorrect

but they are involved with said company

adju4......

Okay here we go again with the grammar lesson. The preposition "in" means within the limits or boundaries; it can also mean towards the inside of [something]. This guy was "in" or "inside" that prostitution ring. Once again, quit splitting hairs. Enough said!

no not enough said

he was not inside the ring

any more than the car buyer is inside the car manufactering company

(thank you for making my point)

he is outside the ring purchasing their product/service

just as the car buyer is outside the car manufacturing company
purchasing their product/service

adj4u.....


You are tooooooooo much! Live in your own little world and defend Spitzer. I give up.

i am not defending him

but the difference is if he is in the ring he is a member of organized crime

if he uses the product/service he is a john

big difference in crimes and in punishments

if it is proven he is involved in the ring then he should be
punish for that crime

but the man should be charged properly both in court
and in public opinion

Go figure... Just when you least expect it.
We agree on something!

His victimizing young women by partaking in prostitution, while cracking down on vice crime is reprehensible. This alone should end his career as a public servant on every and any level. Also answering to the crimes, paying any fines and doing any jail time that is a just punishment for that jurisdiction.

If it is determined that he was part of the organization.. Then he should answer to racketeering and related charges...

These are two separate issues, that will most likely be looked at by a Grand Jury. Until then? Public indictment is just so much political hot air.

adj:

Are you in an argumentive mood this A.M.?

I am not.

Therefore, use your noodle. Spitzer got caught in a federal sting doing something illegal. Can we agree on that?

Now, my pc keeps blacking out then coming back on saying something about Driver "IGFX".

Anyone know what that is all about?

MAYBE IF MHHIKER COMES ON HE WILL KNOW?

Lindyy

dont read this you may learn something

http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

I know I might regret this later. As they say ~ No good deed goes unpunished.

Your display driver possibly needs updating. Go and open a thread in computers and tech about it and we can solve it there.
Please post exactly the warning you see if possible.

it appeers you did not read my post

i am not defending him

he was caught with his pants down no doubt

but he has not been charged with being in the prostitution ring

he should face punishment for the crime he was caught doing

not for crimes of being part of the ring

did you not see this post



big difference in the crimes

and in the punishments