Topic: True Story for those who need help Believing
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Sat 03/08/08 10:52 AM

The one true God Zeus does not like immersion. The is a trick by Poseidon. You are saying to Poseidon that he has the power in your life and not Zeus. Zeus is the only true God not Poseidon. Do not get fooled. Open your heart to God and you will know the truth. I only hope you do this before it is too late.

Poseidon will poison your soul. Ask it of Zeus the one true God.

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Sat 03/08/08 10:53 AM

If you have faith, this is a miracle. If you don't, it may not be, for you. Fairh is the evidence of the things that are not seen.


there are no such things as miracles they are merely happenstance of nature that can be explained

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Sat 03/08/08 10:58 AM


If you have faith, this is a miracle. If you don't, it may not be, for you. Fairh is the evidence of the things that are not seen.


there are no such things as miracles they are merely happenstance of nature that can be explained


lol how can you say that...can you explain how a premature child has no hope of living but yet pulls through, born with a hole in her heart, died a few times and there was nothing that could have been done...that her surviving is not a miracle....that saving someone from the harm they were causing themselves because they chose to get better is not a miracle that they want to do better for themselves....to me they are

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Sat 03/08/08 11:03 AM



If you have faith, this is a miracle. If you don't, it may not be, for you. Fairh is the evidence of the things that are not seen.


there are no such things as miracles they are merely happenstance of nature that can be explained


lol how can you say that...can you explain how a premature child has no hope of living but yet pulls through, born with a hole in her heart, died a few times and there was nothing that could have been done...that her surviving is not a miracle....that saving someone from the harm they were causing themselves because they chose to get better is not a miracle that they want to do better for themselves....to me they are



yes I can exlain it...if the baby died a few times then who kept bringing the baby back to life...er..let me guess..It was the doctors and how did the hole in the baby's heart get fixed...er..let me guess... those pesty doctors again ...and how did the hole get in the baby's heart in the first place..er..let me guess...it was God

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Sat 03/08/08 11:04 AM
Oh yes. I am saying that God definitely has a hand in things. Some people are going to believe that. That's faith. Sometimes you need more faith to believe something than other times, but basically, I think faith is involved in it all in some way, shape or form. At least it is for me. I'm basically a hard case to convince, I guess.

But that whole thing does bring up some interesting points. Our preacher was talking last Sunday about how believers are sinless according to scriptuers in Romans chapter 6. He said, it doesn't matter if we believe that or not, what matters is that God said it and therefore, after coming to the Lord we're sinless so why bother to sin any more. Sin has no power over us any more, so why bother. I thought he had a good point there. There are a lot of things in the scripture that I waver about, but that doesn't make them any less true. It's not my faith or not that makes something true. It's the fact that it was said and done. I can believe what I want about it, you know? At any rate, it's JMO (just my opionion).

GS

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Sat 03/08/08 11:05 AM

I work for a lady as her nanny and she just told me this story about her sister:

Her sister just got done drinkin at a party and got into a jeep with some friends...well the jeep flipped and she was the only one wearing a seat belt while everyone else got thrown out. They all lived and had minor injuries except her. The springs in her seat stabbed her in the back in about twelve different places and so she was stuck to the seat. She hit her head many times as the jeep rolled and rolled and she was sent to the operating room ASAP. The doctors started to work on the swelling, they did what they could but it was out of there hands by that point. They were in the middle of telling the family that if she did live through this she wouldnt be able to walk or talk she would pretty much be a veg. The next thing they knew a nurse came out and said the swelling is going down....the doctor rushed in to find it so and looked at everyone saying a higher power went to work because I didnt cure her. She is now walking and talking and perfectly normal with a great new joy for life in knowing that God saved her that day.


Amen to the generous hand of the Lord.

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Sat 03/08/08 11:06 AM


If you have faith, this is a miracle. If you don't, it may not be, for you. Fairh is the evidence of the things that are not seen.


there are no such things as miracles they are merely happenstance of nature that can be explained


you are happenning of nature that i can't explain yet.laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 03/08/08 11:13 AM



If you have faith, this is a miracle. If you don't, it may not be, for you. Fairh is the evidence of the things that are not seen.


there are no such things as miracles they are merely happenstance of nature that can be explained


you are happenning of nature that i can't explain yet.laugh laugh laugh


well you may have to blame that on lack of intelligence

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Sat 03/08/08 11:21 AM
Edited by TheLonelyWalker on Sat 03/08/08 11:21 AM




If you have faith, this is a miracle. If you don't, it may not be, for you. Fairh is the evidence of the things that are not seen.


there are no such things as miracles they are merely happenstance of nature that can be explained


you are happenning of nature that i can't explain yet.laugh laugh laugh


well you may have to blame that on lack of intelligence


u may be right, Seamus. My brain is too small to understand how you are able to use a computer.
SOrry, i'd like to be smarter.

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Sat 03/08/08 11:23 AM

u may be right, Seamus. My brain is too small to understand how you are able to use a computer.
SOrry, i'd like to be smarter.


well "The Lonely Miguel" that's what happens when your parents are brother and sister ...

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Sat 03/08/08 11:34 AM
Miguel...funches...laugh

Quit it...laugh

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Sat 03/08/08 11:44 AM

Miguel...funches...laugh

Quit it...laugh

just for the respect I have for u and ur love one I will back out.
Love, blesings, and light for both of u my friend.

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Sat 03/08/08 11:46 AM

Oh yes. I am saying that God definitely has a hand in things. Some people are going to believe that. That's faith. Sometimes you need more faith to believe something than other times, but basically, I think faith is involved in it all in some way, shape or form. At least it is for me. I'm basically a hard case to convince, I guess.


isn't faith really a disrespect to God? ..to claim faith means just because you believe something is so then it automatically becomes truth ...only Gods have that power

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Sat 03/08/08 11:51 AM
faith
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faith[1,noun]faith[2,transitive verb]article of faithfaith healinggood faith



Main Entry: 1faith
Pronunciation: \ˈfāth\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural faiths \ˈfāths, sometimes ˈfāthz\
Etymology: Middle English feith, from Anglo-French feid, fei, from Latin fides; akin to Latin fidere to trust — more at bide
Date: 13th century
1 a: allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1): fidelity to one's promises (2): sincerity of intentions
2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust
3: something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>

merriam-webster definition

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Sat 03/08/08 11:59 AM

2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God


just because one trust doesn't mean who or what they trust are trustworthy if God could be trusted you wouldn't need faith


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Sat 03/08/08 12:03 PM


2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God


just because one trust doesn't mean who or what they trust are trustworthy if God could be trusted you wouldn't need faith



please define in ur own words "faith"
thank you

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Sat 03/08/08 12:04 PM
The problem I have with stories like this that attribute apparent anomalies to divine intervention is that such an intervening God would need to be extremely selective in who he intervenes for and why he intervenes.

We know for a fact that terrible things happen to good decent Christians. They get terrible diseases, they die and/or are hurt terribly in accidents, they get mugged and or raped. They often end up in abusive marriages or other relationships.

The problem with attribute the occasional apparent anomaly to divine intervention does nothing more than suggest that God is extremely undependable. These kinds of story certainly shouldn’t encourage anyone have any more faith in an intervening God than to believe that by buying a lottery ticket is going to cause them to win the lottery!

In fact, there have been reports of “miraculous” recoveries, where the person who recovered was neither a Christian nor a good person. So obviously it’s not even necessary to buy the lottery ticket to win this kind of supposed divine intervention.

There have been plenty of accidents where good people were hurt and bad people came out unscathed. If we’re going to attribute all these things to divine intervention then clearly we must view divine intervention to be just as like the weather, the sun shines on the just and the unjust equally and randomly. There’s no intention divine intervention going on.

Some people heal better than others. Doctors are know-it-alls. Any respectable doctor will admit that medicine has a long way to go. They simply don’t know everything. So they aren’t in a position to say what’s possible and what isn’t, or what is a ‘miracle’ and what isn’t. They just don’t know enough to make those kinds of assessment. All they can say with certainty is that what they seemed to be abnormal relative to their experience.

Finally, there are those who believe that we do indeed have the power to heal ourselves.

So this story would support this belief as well. The girl healed herself with her own power of thought, even if she didn’t realize that she was the one who was doing it.

If we see humans doing miracles, should we believe that a higher power is doing it through them? Or should we simply realize that humans actually have access to higher powers at all time and that most of us simply don’t yet know how to access it?

There’s no indication in this story that any miracles came from any ‘outside’ source. Why should we automatically assume that? People who believe that humans have this power always can just say, “I told you so”, and no one can say that they are wrong.

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Sat 03/08/08 12:05 PM



2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God


just because one trust doesn't mean who or what they trust are trustworthy if God could be trusted you wouldn't need faith



please define in ur own words "faith"
thank you


faith is slang for "you don't know"

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Sat 03/08/08 12:09 PM




2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God


just because one trust doesn't mean who or what they trust are trustworthy if God could be trusted you wouldn't need faith



please define in ur own words "faith"
thank you


faith is slang for "you don't know"


wrong. faith is slang for "i can't see, but it's there."

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Sat 03/08/08 12:10 PM

wrong. faith is slang for "i can't see, but it's there."


that's slang for delusional