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Topic: The Trinity
Lily0923's photo
Sat 03/08/08 01:08 PM
Edited by Lily0923 on Sat 03/08/08 01:08 PM
and by Trinity you mean...Maiden, Mother and Crone? That's the only trinity I know....:heart:

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Sat 03/08/08 03:11 PM
Edited by Redykeulous on Sat 03/08/08 03:15 PM
Wouldee, I just only finished reading another thread, the Abra, Panthiesm thread! In it you claim that the Bible is not necessary for your belief. For it is throught the "Spirit" that one is actually councelled.

Can you refute Miles, without using the Bible?

Of course I have been 36 hours with no sleep, I may have misread. But the question stands.

Not trying to play devils advocate, only trying to understand, what makes the Bible so necessary when it can't even be understood, unless one is "inspired" by the Spirit to understand?

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Sat 03/08/08 08:57 PM
Edited by wouldee on Sat 03/08/08 08:58 PM

Wouldee, I just only finished reading another thread, the Abra, Panthiesm thread! In it you claim that the Bible is not necessary for your belief. For it is throught the "Spirit" that one is actually councelled.

Can you refute Miles, without using the Bible?

Of course I have been 36 hours with no sleep, I may have misread. But the question stands.

Not trying to play devils advocate, only trying to understand, what makes the Bible so necessary when it can't even be understood, unless one is "inspired" by the Spirit to understand?



The true church is people filled with the Holy Spirit. It is still here, Miles. With or without the Holy Bible.

Through the laying on of hands it trasfers, Miles.

Those that have the unction and the anointing of the Holy Spirit are thwe Living Epistles of the Word of God Faith comes by hearing God's word. It goes to the tongue,
Belief is in the heart unto righteousness. The evidence of the power of the Word of God.

The Holy Spirit teaches off all things and reminds the indwelt of all that was said from God. Buildng the life of such a believer into the comformed image and likeness of the Son of God, Jesus, whose ambassadors we are. He works through us, we rest in Him.

This has been going on for thousands of years.

Many people do not have Bibles.

That's my point. Remove the Holy Bible from the face of the eartgh and the gospel still gets out through the saints.

The purpose of the Holy Spirit is to make you an ambassador of Christ.

Not all believers have this.

It is the power of the priesthood, not the salvation of the individual. Christ judges every heart on merit, whether He is known to the individual or not.

Many people mistakenly believe because they have been in the presence of the Holy Spirit that they too have it. Not so.

It is evidence of the anointing to preach in truth. It is always the blessed assurance on the believer that is so indwelt.

It is the finished work in the life of the believer. It is also the beginning of the life of consecration to the Lord Jesus Christ. It is the perfection of the saint, being made whole.\

It is the judgement, here on earth ahead of the judgement seat.

It is Christ in us, the hope of glory, not us, that does the work.

It is his eternal rest upon our souls.

We are His Church, none other is the true church.

We are not our own, we are bought with a price.

We are crucified with Him and raised together with Him.

It is His house, we are the house of His building.

It is His message that we preach in power, not of ourselves and not for ourselves.

We profit nothing. We have all in Him.

It is our reasonable service to our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.

It is the news for every generation that man is freed from error and bondages and that the things of God through Christ are come to them and also through the preaching of His church, the saints.

The answer comes to the hearer and doer that gives The Lord the entrance into their heart.

He then seals that person and takes on leading and guiding them to conformance to Christ's image.

He is the teacher, not us.

We don't teach, we preach and show Christ, not ourselves.

It goes much deeper.

The Holy Bible aleready exists for you, Miles, so read it and follow its message and call on Him, not me.

I would have to write my own Bible for you to read. Much better that you read the one you have and harmonize what is being offered and seek Him.

If He so chooses to make you one of us, He will,when you and He find that place in your heart together.

We will know you then as His.

He will be your all and all and all scripture will be clear to you that Jesus is God.

It isn't about showing off and making dsciples to ourselves, Miles.

It is anbout letting go, and letting God be God.

For everyone.

The way we were given is how we know what He is giving.

He is the prteacher.

He is the doctor.
He is all things ti all men.

We are but clay vessels, and emptied for Him to fill, Miles.

We have Him, we can rest in our souls that are protected by His charge upon our lives.

When we the church die, our souls return with our spirits merged to His Spirit to where He is and there we are.

Basics only, Miles. Tis is no place to give you the complete run down.




But since the Holy Bible is here, and its truthes are spiritual, then they are spiritually discerned, but not by our own Spirit, but by the Spirit of God which is in our own spirit.

We now of what we speak, because we know whose we are, not who we are. Whose we are. His!!! And the words are His, and we know them.

I have been walking in this unction and anointing for over twenty years Miles and know more than I did at the first. I grow continually in wisdom and depth of the understanding of the knowledge of the Lord. It is a twenty plus year relationship not measured by time or even seconds of the hour but by the constant and aware presence of His spirit in mine at all times night and day, awake or asleep.

I can't even have a private thought that He is not aware of and me knowing it too! LOL So we are very close and I am free with Him and there is no fear or doubt and unbelief. It can never come in here. He is here. We are inseparable.

Death is welcome, but not expedient. His passion has consumed me. His love is inexhaustable. He never sleeps, nor does mine, but my body is yet carnal and requires sleep, Miles, but my spirit is always awake. Sometimes, one must allow the body to rest because it is weak. Sometimes I forget to eat for days, not because I am fasting, but because I am a fast to myself and He is all that is all in my spirit.


As far as refuting you goes, Miles, I have been in the Holy Bibnle for OVER twenty years and He has been living His life through me and all is clearer and clearer for it. I have endured study that most cannot endure. I have been devouring it and being devoured by Him in it completely, yet I am just a man, Miles, not a great king or even reknown. I am nothing thsat He may be everything.

I decrease that He mmay increase. He leads and I learn more faster.

I lead, and growth stops until I let Him lead. I let Him lead..... it better serves my purpose of knowing Him more.

I will not tell you about my life much, Miles, as it does no good and accomplishes nothing.

It is not me doing whateveer He has done through me, and whatever He does next has nothing to do woth anything that He has done before, where I am concerned. He is doing it.

I am only a witness to what He does through me.

So reffuting your errors is for your own good to point you to the path I am already on and one that you desire to be on.

Get Miles out of the way and let God be God and witness God, not Miles doing the work.

You will only learn in this way from God, the things of God.

The by product is that He is all in all and you are nothing but reasting in His love and presence.

Wher it goes, doesn't matter Miles.

Big mighty things are meaningless. They matter not.

we don't do it anyway, He does.

we cannot, but He can and does.

What crowns, Miles??????????

I gave Him mine(whatever it was or could be a long time ago) and don't want or need one. I need nothing.

The only thing that needs anything is my carnal body and He provides those things.

I gotta go now.

peace.

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Sun 03/09/08 12:43 AM
wow some of these people are spending way too much time on this. . . i dont think miles is being that argumentative. . just why create other deities to pray to. . . we all know Jesus/Yeshua is God, so why make it so you are praying verbally to three titles for one God. . . it is another falacy of the cathlic church, like when they create the whole story of the virgin mary being a virgin her whole life (read the catechism, very interesting and absurd) and how they create an entire life story for her that can be found no where in the canon and pray to her to save them along with other "saints". . . as aforementioned by others. . . you are only to worship God and only through Jesus can you get to the Father, so why all these other names, enitities or saints if God is God is Jesus.

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Sun 03/09/08 07:34 AM
Wooldee

You are not afraid of me. You are afraid of the spirit in me. You must argue as you are afraid of being exposed and that Yahweh May Decide He Has Had Enough....Miles

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Sun 03/09/08 08:54 AM

Wooldee

You are not afraid of me. You are afraid of the spirit in me. You must argue as you are afraid of being exposed and that Yahweh May Decide He Has Had Enough....Miles





miles.laugh laugh laugh laugh

Au contraire, mon ami.

you are very imaginative.
your cup runneth over.

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

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