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I like circular...
It has no end and it has no beginning... it is one, not separate... |
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imperfect men make mistakes and often fall far short of being ideal family heads. so what should a wife do, she should not belittle what her husband does or try to take over the wife shuld have deed respect for her husband the husband to his wife also in fulfilling her role, a wife can do much in caring for the family. for example the bible shows that married women are to love their husbands, to love their children, a wife or mother who acts in this way will gain the lasting love and respect of her family. Ummm ....is this the Dark Ages 101? Sorry... I was away that day...  
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Edited by
creativesoul
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Wed 03/19/08 04:18 PM
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I like 'em pregnant, barefoot, and in the kitchen....
Woohoo... 
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From Ephesians 5.22-33 I see Christian marriage to be a reflection of the relationship between Christ and the Church.
A Christian marriage should reflect Unity, love, Headship/submission (cooperation), and Perfection Unity - "I and the father are one" (John 10.30) Cooperation "My Father is still working, and I also am working" (JOhn 5.17) Honor "Glorify your Son so that the Son may glorify you" (John 17.1) Submission "For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me" (John 6.38) The husband and wife are to be one because they are both parts of the body of Christ (unity of Christ and the Church) Epheisans 5:21: "Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God" (reverence for God) The husband is commanded to love his wife, as Christ loves the Church. The term used here is agape love. This is the love that gives. Philipians 2:2-3 "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind. Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves." Titus 2.4 Paul commends the older women to sober the minds of the younger women so that they might love their husbands as friends, share interests, have discussions, enjoy being in each others company. They are also commanded to respect their husbands. In Christian marriage submission is based on unity and love. It is not blind obedience and does not imply inferiority. Rather the two should be subject to one another in reverence to Christ. Such a marriage is a testimony to the truth and power of the gospel.  
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Edited by
wouldee
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Wed 03/19/08 05:04 PM
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to CS
....and maybe neked 2 whoot whoot
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From Ephesians 5.22-33 I see Christian marriage to be a reflection of the relationship between Christ and the Church. A Christian marriage should reflect Unity, love, Headship/submission (cooperation), and Perfection Unity - "I and the father are one" (John 10.30) Cooperation "My Father is still working, and I also am working" (JOhn 5.17) Honor "Glorify your Son so that the Son may glorify you" (John 17.1) Submission "For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me" (John 6.38) The husband and wife are to be one because they are both parts of the body of Christ (unity of Christ and the Church) Epheisans 5:21: "Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God" (reverence for God) The husband is commanded to love his wife, as Christ loves the Church. The term used here is agape love. This is the love that gives. Philipians 2:2-3 "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind. Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves." Titus 2.4 Paul commends the older women to sober the minds of the younger women so that they might love their husbands as friends, share interests, have discussions, enjoy being in each others company. They are also commanded to respect their husbands. In Christian marriage submission is based on unity and love. It is not blind obedience and does not imply inferiority. Rather the two should be subject to one another in reverence to Christ. Such a marriage is a testimony to the truth and power of the gospel.
So why are there so many single Christians??? It seems you guys have a mud map on getting it right.... How come it doesn't? 
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Let nothing be done through strife and vainglory ; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem the other better than themselves. yup.
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Seriously Wouldee.... if it is so simple... and there are clear guidelines to work within...
How come there are so many divorced, or single Christians? It seems that a few have all the answers.... and the 4 easy steps to a successful marriage, even the 'How to spot the perfect mate' in one easy lesson... all gloriously typed in a manual of life, called the Bible... How come?
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hi Jess
it is not so simple. we get in our own way, don't we? All of us at one time or another it seems, but for the few, whether Christian or not. And even then, has the longevity of the picture perfect marriage been a convenience or fears of the unknown not worth the treading into? Has perfection ever been entertained? I don't believe so. This topic does grab me though.
What I see biblically, is that nature is used often as a metaphor for things deeper than obsevation and experience can grasp in retrospect only. As a metaphor, marriage speaks to a committment not bound by defeat and disunity and the will of a fallable and fragile human comprehension leading another into the unknown blindly and by chance finding the commpassion and sympathy to endure unselfishly the needs of another at any and all expense. As a practicality, I see love and marriage as being wasted on the youth and the uninitiate in the trials of life. But in their defence, learning and growing together in mutual bonds and finding solice in love while the trials and tribulations beat on the young lovers out in the cold cruel world that doesn't revolve around the love found in one another and unknown but to the two as one. At our esteemed age, we perhaps should know better than to put stock in another with such permanence, eh?
nay, say I to that!
Lee, I do believe that youthful exhuberance can vault lives into consequences so unforseen and unplanned that life itself appears wrongly entrusted to choices made too quickly from a limited pool of suitors, as viewed in retrospect. Too often, it is acceptable to "start over". But with the disadvantage of time counting down the tension of the spring that gives breath for only as long as the clock can be wound. And in the eleventh hour we..... what then? Has a life lived well with that which is, not also sufficient to live well with that which is lived well through the hardships and heart aches suffered by another that is still intact and better for it with insights that youthful frolic cannot concretely set as treasure? I don't know that the answer is for every person to know, but I believe that we are loosed from past ills for good reason and sometimes not willingly, but such as it happens, do many find themselves so imparted to later in life. The biblical metaphor is meant to encourage all to embrace that an eternal love without conditions and constraint is prposed for all regardless of circumstances. Even the divorced are encouraged to remain as they find themselves, married, divorced, widowed, single, endentured, incarcerated, etc. and encouraged not to seek earthly bonds that weight the heart to earthly concerns and temporal values. Love has no bounds though. Love is generous and liberal, after all. It warms every moment with good. But the Christian, specifically, well....... then the love shared had better include the presence of a living God and His presence in the midst of two that seek to create one of themselves with each other and include the wants and will of that same living God in the midst, don't you think? Now watch the humor with that...
By design, a happy union is not the individuals but the life of the content and character of the two, which is it's own reality, I hold. That two as one are a third, not even the sum of the parts but something more, something unique, something only known to those that dare to step there. Not a light thing, and certainly not a GUARANTEE either. Aw shucks, I wrote a book, didn't I?
What is your heart about all this "two people in love" thing, Lee? //
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How come there are so many divorced, or single Christians? Well not only that, but what with all these Christians who are so vehement about walking God’s walk, and all they ever do is talk about how they keep straying from his path and stumbling all the time? If God is such a great leader why do Christians seem to be stumbling around in the dark almost more than the Atheist. On the contrary most atheists I meet seem to have a better clue about where they are headed that many of the Christians who have supposedly given their lives over to God. All the Christians keep doing it talking about not they struggle to keep the faith, and request other people to pray for them all the time. It seems to me that if God is listening he should be able to hear a single prayer. They idea of getting more people to ask him all the time sounds more like coercion to me. I would be impressed if I actually saw Christians having great lives with great confidence levels. But that’s not what we see at all. Christians appear to be struggling in the dark just like everyone else. The only difference between them and other people is that Christians give God credit for all the things they accidentally do right, and blame themselves (or other people, or the devil) for all the things that go wrong. In fact, when you really stop and think about it all it amounts to is a blame game where God is automatically assigned credit for everything good that happens, and the blame for everything else has to be pointed at someone else. It’s just a massive blame game where God automatically wins credit for anything good that happens. That’s all it is. It’s actually pretty pathetic when you stop and think about it, because all it amounts to is robbing people anycredit for anything they might do that’s good. And blaming people for everything that goes wrong. It’s an extremely negative and biased picture against the human condition. Quite sick actually. It spiritually robs people from any good they might be responsible for. No wonder I’m so screwed up. I was raised in a very sick culture. They keep talking about God being love, but then they go and rob the love from everyone with their finger-pointing blame. In this picture all human beings are pathetic failures who can’t do anything at all with God’s mercy. It’s serious sick. 
I can’t believe people support this philosophical view of life. 
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Edited by
Jess642
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Wed 03/19/08 06:27 PM
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Two people in love thing?
I see two people who recognise the same love.... and yes two people....one truth.... a living breathing entity, which they both choose to undertake. Acceptance, understanding, the living entity called love....no bindings, no obligations... I wonder at this commitment thing...some see it as something to shy away from, others with an understanding, of what is being committed to. I dont have an innate acceptance of forever and ever, amen, with relationships.... I have an innate understanding, of here, and now, and maybe tomorrow, if we are supposed to have a tomorrow. Two people in love??? Blech! that conjurs up cupids, and bows, and chocolate hearts and bluebirds and all sorts of cliqued things....eeeeeeeeeeeww. I have no preconceived ideas of what this love thing should look like... as in a hollywood version, I do have a sense, that it is what has always been, and it is only the unlearning of what it isn't, that is required of me... Did that make sense?
I just read so many of these, 'this is how a marriage should look' threads, from a biblical perspective, and wonder, if it is all so black and white, why so many grey areas? All these people.... all these rules... all these adherances.... if it was so easy... then why so many divorces? No matter what the age. The marriage thing scares the percuck out of me, but Karma knows why, and we have that ahead of us, my government requires it.... we dont... but the government does... I am more 'married' to a person I respect, and admire, irrespective of gender, romance, etc, than any officialdom can evoke. |
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Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Credit goes to God! Blame goes to You! Brainwashed Yet?
Ummmmm........nope.
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I like 'em pregnant, barefoot, and in the kitchen....
Woohoo...
Good luck with that honey
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Wha...
Huh?... Ugh... Gosh... Can't have no fun...
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the lightness of being.... good point Abra. It is your fault JK
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Edited by
Jess642
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Wed 03/19/08 06:31 PM
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I like 'em pregnant, barefoot, and in the kitchen....
Woohoo...
Good luck with that honey
I had visions of a giant belly, unable to reach the sink... barefoot, cause the ankles are so swollen... busily burning water, and bawling at the hormonal challenge of it all...
yep... good luck with that Michael..
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As if...
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marriage may be viewed as formalized commitment
mutual domination mutual submission shared burdens shared responsibility shared kindness shared life no bible is needed for these things it may be sanctioned by any religion or none my god honors mutual commitment whatever the religions of the couple or the lack thereof and does not care if it is legally sanctioned
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I like 'em pregnant, barefoot, and in the kitchen....
Woohoo...
Good luck with that honey
I had visions of a giant belly, unable to reach the sink... barefoot, cause the ankles are so swollen... busily burning water, and bawling at the hormonal challenge of it all...
yep... good luck with that Michael..
speechless
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