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Topic: do you know??
widowerseeking Joined Sun 10/29/06 Posts: 1831	Thu 02/28/08 04:57 PM
just how hard it is to get off alcohol and cigarettes, well I do have never let it interfere with me working was always employed, still look at the money wasted a 12 pack of beer daily, a couple of packs of smokes daily, I quit both cold turkeythe beer about a year ago, the smokes about 6 months ago. still want both quite often but have managed to keep them in my past, not in the present or future.

ADiamond Joined Sat 12/08/07 Posts: 2375	Thu 02/28/08 04:58 PM
That is wonderful

tombraider Joined Wed 09/12/07 Posts: 5042	Thu 02/28/08 04:59 PM
i'll drink to that .. ..hiccup

debbie1980 Joined Sun 09/09/07 Posts: 20487	Thu 02/28/08 04:59 PM
just how hard it is to get off alcohol and cigarettes, well I do have never let it interfere with me working was always employed, still look at the money wasted a 12 pack of beer daily, a couple of packs of smokes daily, I quit both cold turkeythe beer about a year ago, the smokes about 6 months ago. still want both quite often but have managed to keep them in my past, not in the present or future. welldone, keep up the good work. i dont drink, it just makes me sick and gives me cluster headaches, but i do smoke, and yes that is hard to give up. i could do it if i tried i have before, but i got stressed and started smoking again

FearandLoathing Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 30121	Thu 02/28/08 05:01 PM
Not a disease, it is a choice and not a very difficult one at that. You grow into the habit of solving your problems with alcohol it becomes a chore to find another way to deal with that problem. I've been drinking since I was 11, the most was a span of three years from 18 to 21...I quit. Not a difficult decision to make nor the most impossible choice, now I drink on occasion maybe once or twice a week and not that much...again it is not a disease you do have a choice, just have to decide whether your going to listen to that part of your brain or not.

stevil342001 Joined Sun 07/29/07 Posts: 804	Thu 02/28/08 05:02 PM
being a recovering alcoholic .. there wasnt a day i didnt go without beer... been sober since oct5 2007 but smoking i cant give up..mybe in a year..

brian325 Joined Fri 10/05/07 Posts: 4132	Thu 02/28/08 05:02 PM
Congrats widower, I too have been sober since '94, and off cigs since '96. It was the best thing in the world I could have done, and both I did cold turkey as well, it's the only way!

stevil342001 Joined Sun 07/29/07 Posts: 804	Thu 02/28/08 05:03 PM
Not a disease, it is a choice and not a very difficult one at that. You grow into the habit of solving your problems with alcohol it becomes a chore to find another way to deal with that problem. I've been drinking since I was 11, the most was a span of three years from 18 to 21...I quit. Not a difficult decision to make nor the most impossible choice, now I drink on occasion maybe once or twice a week and not that much...again it is not a disease you do have a choice, just have to decide whether your going to listen to that part of your brain or not. wrong it is a disease if you dont have it you dont know

sexi_PHAT Joined Fri 02/01/08 Posts: 1301	Thu 02/28/08 05:04 PM
just how hard it is to get off alcohol and cigarettes, well I do have never let it interfere with me working was always employed, still look at the money wasted a 12 pack of beer daily, a couple of packs of smokes daily, I quit both cold turkeythe beer about a year ago, the smokes about 6 months ago. still want both quite often but have managed to keep them in my past, not in the present or future. Yes it is hard..i dont drink but i smoke occasionally and its hard to quit so congrats!!

Fade2Black Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 50752	Thu 02/28/08 05:04 PM
I would never waste $$ on cigs again .. but beer? wine? you betcha

debbie1980 Joined Sun 09/09/07 Posts: 20487	Thu 02/28/08 05:04 PM
being a recovering alcoholic .. there wasnt a day i didnt go without beer... been sober since oct5 2007 but smoking i cant give up..mybe in a year.. welldone

FearandLoathing Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 30121	Thu 02/28/08 05:10 PM
Not a disease, it is a choice and not a very difficult one at that. You grow into the habit of solving your problems with alcohol it becomes a chore to find another way to deal with that problem. I've been drinking since I was 11, the most was a span of three years from 18 to 21...I quit. Not a difficult decision to make nor the most impossible choice, now I drink on occasion maybe once or twice a week and not that much...again it is not a disease you do have a choice, just have to decide whether your going to listen to that part of your brain or not. wrong it is a disease if you dont have it you dont know Had it, do know...read the post.

CyPoet Joined Fri 01/11/08 Posts: 12494	Thu 02/28/08 05:11 PM
Bravo!W~S.Keep up the good work.I hope ur saving up the $ U would generally spend on both.U deserve 2 treat urself 2 a vacation or something U always wanted.That's a reward U deserve.I rarely drink so that's never been an issue.Now;cigs we'll that's another story.If I get stressed or excessively worry there the first thing that comes 2 mind.It's all psychological & oral as U know.I'll keep trying 2 quit though.Take care my friend.Godspeed!CyPoet.

hikerchick Joined Sat 12/22/07 Posts: 13206	Thu 02/28/08 05:15 PM Edited by hikerchick on Thu 02/28/08 05:16 PM
Not a disease, it is a choice and not a very difficult one at that. You grow into the habit of solving your problems with alcohol it becomes a chore to find another way to deal with that problem. I've been drinking since I was 11, the most was a span of three years from 18 to 21...I quit. Not a difficult decision to make nor the most impossible choice, now I drink on occasion maybe once or twice a week and not that much...again it is not a disease you do have a choice, just have to decide whether your going to listen to that part of your brain or not. The difference between an alcoholic and a heavy drinker is what happens after the first drink. I always had a choice about the first one..it was the ones after that I had no control over. I absolutely could not predict what would happen after that first one..sometimes I managed to have one or two; sometimes I woke up days later. If you don't understand that kind of loss of control, you probably were a heavy drinker and not an alcoholic. That being said - off booze since 1988 Off cigarettes since 1996 Life is good!

Gypsy41 Joined Tue 05/15/07 Posts: 123359	Thu 02/28/08 05:16 PM
ya know when Im old I wanna be completely wasted.....

widowerseeking Joined Sun 10/29/06 Posts: 1831	Thu 02/28/08 05:16 PM
not sure if you want to call them a disease or not, do know it can be whipped it takes a lot of will power, it is probably the hardest thing you will ever do.

FearandLoathing Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 30121	Thu 02/28/08 05:16 PM
Not a disease, it is a choice and not a very difficult one at that. You grow into the habit of solving your problems with alcohol it becomes a chore to find another way to deal with that problem. I've been drinking since I was 11, the most was a span of three years from 18 to 21...I quit. Not a difficult decision to make nor the most impossible choice, now I drink on occasion maybe once or twice a week and not that much...again it is not a disease you do have a choice, just have to decide whether your going to listen to that part of your brain or not. The difference between an alcoholic and a heavy drinker is what happens after the first drink. I always had a choice about the first one..it was the ones after that I had no control over. I absolutely could not predict what would happen after that first one..sometimes I managed to have one or two; sometimes I woke up days later. If you don't understand that kind of loss of control, you probably were a heavy drinker and not an alcoholic. That being said - off booze since 1988 Off cigarettes since 1996 Life is good! I do understand, yes I was an alcoholic for about three years. No I won't go over this again to justify my statement.

Cambolaya65 Joined Mon 09/03/07 Posts: 5587	Thu 02/28/08 05:18 PM
wait a minute.you are on cigs and booze..just stand up,thats gotta be uncomfortable.

hikerchick Joined Sat 12/22/07 Posts: 13206	Thu 02/28/08 05:19 PM
Not a disease, it is a choice and not a very difficult one at that. You grow into the habit of solving your problems with alcohol it becomes a chore to find another way to deal with that problem. I've been drinking since I was 11, the most was a span of three years from 18 to 21...I quit. Not a difficult decision to make nor the most impossible choice, now I drink on occasion maybe once or twice a week and not that much...again it is not a disease you do have a choice, just have to decide whether your going to listen to that part of your brain or not. The difference between an alcoholic and a heavy drinker is what happens after the first drink. I always had a choice about the first one..it was the ones after that I had no control over. I absolutely could not predict what would happen after that first one..sometimes I managed to have one or two; sometimes I woke up days later. If you don't understand that kind of loss of control, you probably were a heavy drinker and not an alcoholic. That being said - off booze since 1988 Off cigarettes since 1996 Life is good! I do understand, yes I was an alcoholic for about three years. No I won't go over this again to justify my statement. alcoholism is not curable. You either are or you aren't. No such thing a "was".

FearandLoathing Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 30121	Thu 02/28/08 05:29 PM
AIDS is a disease, Cancer is a disease, Hepatitis is a disease, a multitude of pulmonary disorders are disease's. Alcoholism is a choice.