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“I believe in God, only I spell it Nature.” - Frank Lloyd Wright
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"The heart of Pantheist philosophy is a belief in the sanctity of Nature. This means that we hold reverence for the inconceivable evolutionary processes that created us; for the unfolding of the stars in the Universe and the life on our home planet Earth. In short--we put our faith in our Creator--meaning not only all past events and shapes and patterns, but also the now, for Creation is a continuing process and exists within us and around us this very instant." - Harold W. Wood
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"I believe in the cosmos. All of us are linked to the cosmos. Look at the sun: If there is no sun, then we cannot exist. So nature is my god. To me, nature is sacred; trees are my temples and forests are my cathedrals." - Mikhail Gorbachev
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"God does not die on that day when we cease to believe in a personal deity, but we die when our lives cease to be illuminated by the steady radiance, renewed daily, of a wonder, the source of which is beyond all reasoning.
When the sense of the earth unites with the sense of one's body, one becomes earth of the earth, a plant among plants, an animal born from the soil and fertilizing it. In this union, the body is confirmed in its pantheism." Dag Hammarskjold |
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this Bible passage has been getting a lot of traction lately, as viewed from my seat at the table. It comes from a speech made by a friend of mine. Others have called it, The Sermon On The Mount. Luke 6:36-38. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.    //  // 
I think this is an excellent passage, with excellent advice. But is it not in exact opposition to this CatLady post here? She is saying that her god is unforgiving.... |
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"The best way to know God is to love many things." - Vincent van Gogh This is the best quote ever. It is exactly what I think about God. |
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I think the original posting is vile.Its judgemental and tells all the grieving loved ones left behind that someones early demise was the loved ones fault.poppycock.Explain the infants,the children,the devout.God knows whats in peoples hearts and doesn't judge them based on quips,a moment of doubt or non belief.We all break the commandments everyday so whom ever wrote that judgemental piece of trash best look over their shoulder because they claim to know the will of God which don't sit well with Him or me. What she said. And also I will never understand how "God is Love" one minute and "God kills those who make fun of him" the next. Striking someone dead for making fun of you doesn't make you a god. It makes you an immature bully. It's a scary 2 year old's temper tamper reaction. It's very sad. It's also a horrific message, as cute mentions, to those who have had children, siblings and spouses die. By saying some untimely deaths are because "god hated them" you are implying that all untimely deaths are somehow that person's "fault". Death is never the person's "fault". Even suicide is, in my opinion not their "fault" as they were obviously not in their right mind at the time. Death is an inevitable part of life and not a punishment. When someone dies earlier than expected we should be sad not jumping for joy that "god punished that sinner". I don't understand what kind of horror show you are trying to put out into the world with this post. This kind of thinking sickens me. 
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"The best way to know God is to love many things." - Vincent van Gogh This is the best quote ever. It is exactly what I think about God. Yes, this is what I believe. And the best way to love god is to enjoy all of creation- the beauty of nature and the wondrous creatures (including humans). Not to judge others and try to decide who god likes or doesn't like. Not to try to instill fear of retribution in others. Oh well it's a beautiful day I think I will leave this hateful thread and go and enjoy the beauty of my gods creation at the beach. Peace.
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Edited by
wouldee
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Sun 02/24/08 08:28 AM
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this Bible passage has been getting a lot of traction lately, as viewed from my seat at the table. It comes from a speech made by a friend of mine. Others have called it, The Sermon On The Mount. Luke 6:36-38. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again. // //
I think this is an excellent passage, with excellent advice. But is it not in exact opposition to this CatLady post here? She is saying that her god is unforgiving.... Hi Anoasis, Yes, it is an excellent passage. This is at the heart of the inclusiveness in my heart towards all people and God as well. It harmoniously fills all things when I look for the good and not an excuse to be selfish in my judgements. I think Feral made it clear in her OP that this was something to consider about mocking God, who I would point out, is slow tyo anger and would prefer that none perish; let alone, prematurely. As I was reading the conversation between Feral and Abra, my friends, I saw how easily a negative light could enter into the conversation and was reminded of this verse in Luke. It can be taken both ways. What I have learned from my life in Christ is abundant. One of the abundantly circumcised principles grafted into my being is this passage and its liberties inherent upon my perspective. The choice is ours to make whetther or not we have confidence in our freedom of expression and willingness to be personally slow to wrathful behaviour. Likewise, Christ is saying here that he will reward with the same. In applying this principle to my life, I have found that it is an equitable one on every level. The peace in my heart is my evidence of that measure. My experience in living by these words has been one of positive and fruitful consequence upon my doings. We all teach what we know as truth. This truth is one of those that bears good fruit and is easily apprehended by anyone. It is reciprocal love in practice and provides strength to its perspective in applying it to our lives. But as a humanistic philosophy it is true as well. But that is not all there is with things that actually allow us to touch and tap into God's richness intended for our lives. Going beyond philosophical words, this passage is also insightful to the reciprocal conversations available with God on a personal level between each individual and God. The name attached to God would at least serve as a remembrance of where it was first heard and learned, but in no wise exxcuses the possibility of anyones conversation with God becoming richer for its embrace as a clean truth. That is my point.
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this Bible passage has been getting a lot of traction lately, as viewed from my seat at the table. It comes from a speech made by a friend of mine. Others have called it, The Sermon On The Mount. Luke 6:36-38. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again. // //
I think this is an excellent passage, with excellent advice. But is it not in exact opposition to this CatLady post here? She is saying that her god is unforgiving.... Hi Anoasis, Yes, it is an excellent passage. This is at the heart of the inclusiveness in my heart towards all people and God as well. It harmoniously fills all things when I look for the good and not an excuse to be selfish in my judgements. I think Feral made it clear in her OP that this was something to consider about mocking God, who I would point out, is slow tyo anger and would prefer that none perish; let alone, prematurely. As I was reading the conversation between Feral and Abra, my friends, I saw how easily a negative light could enter into the conversation and was reminded of this verse in Luke. It can be taken both ways. What I have learned from my life in Christ is abundant. One of the abundantly circumcised principles grafted into my being is this passage and its liberties inherent upon my perspective. The choice is ours to make whetther or not we have confidence in our freedom of expression and willingness to be personally slow to wrathful behaviour. Likewise, Christ is saying here that he will reward with the same. In applying this principle to my life, I have found that it is an equitable one on every level. The peace in my heart is my evidence of that measure. My experience in living by these words has been one of positive and fruitful consequence upon my doings. We all teach what we know as truth. This truth is one of those that bears good fruit and is easily apprehended by anyone. It is reciprocal love in practice and provides strength to its perspective in applying it to our lives. But as a humanistic philosophy it is true as well. But that is not all there is with things that actually allow us to touch and tap into God's richness intended for our lives. Going beyond philosophical words, this passage is also insightful to the reciprocal conversations available with God on a personal level between each individual and God. The name attached to God would at least serve as a remembrance of where it was first heard and learned, but in no wise exxcuses the possibility of anyones conversation with God becoming richer for its embrace as a clean truth. That is my point.
I think any that know me here would say that I too am slow to anger. But I can see nothing positive about this view of god as an avenger of the most minor of injuries. Many people have had a loved one die young. It is sickening to me to imply that dying young might be a vengance from a hateful god. I try very hard to be fair and see all sides of a thing but I can see no good side to this kind of vile thinking. Peace to you and yours.
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this Bible passage has been getting a lot of traction lately, as viewed from my seat at the table. It comes from a speech made by a friend of mine. Others have called it, The Sermon On The Mount. Luke 6:36-38. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again. // //
I think this is an excellent passage, with excellent advice. But is it not in exact opposition to this CatLady post here? She is saying that her god is unforgiving.... Hi Anoasis, Yes, it is an excellent passage. This is at the heart of the inclusiveness in my heart towards all people and God as well. It harmoniously fills all things when I look for the good and not an excuse to be selfish in my judgements. I think Feral made it clear in her OP that this was something to consider about mocking God, who I would point out, is slow tyo anger and would prefer that none perish; let alone, prematurely. As I was reading the conversation between Feral and Abra, my friends, I saw how easily a negative light could enter into the conversation and was reminded of this verse in Luke. It can be taken both ways. What I have learned from my life in Christ is abundant. One of the abundantly circumcised principles grafted into my being is this passage and its liberties inherent upon my perspective. The choice is ours to make whetther or not we have confidence in our freedom of expression and willingness to be personally slow to wrathful behaviour. Likewise, Christ is saying here that he will reward with the same. In applying this principle to my life, I have found that it is an equitable one on every level. The peace in my heart is my evidence of that measure. My experience in living by these words has been one of positive and fruitful consequence upon my doings. We all teach what we know as truth. This truth is one of those that bears good fruit and is easily apprehended by anyone. It is reciprocal love in practice and provides strength to its perspective in applying it to our lives. But as a humanistic philosophy it is true as well. But that is not all there is with things that actually allow us to touch and tap into God's richness intended for our lives. Going beyond philosophical words, this passage is also insightful to the reciprocal conversations available with God on a personal level between each individual and God. The name attached to God would at least serve as a remembrance of where it was first heard and learned, but in no wise exxcuses the possibility of anyones conversation with God becoming richer for its embrace as a clean truth. That is my point.
I think any that know me here would say that I too am slow to anger. But I can see nothing positive about this view of god as an avenger of the most minor of injuries. Many people have had a loved one die young. It is sickening to me to imply that dying young might be a vengance from a hateful god. I try very hard to be fair and see all sides of a thing but I can see no good side to this kind of vile thinking. Peace to you and yours.
Anoasis. Avenger? I should be dead...many times over, were that the case. hateful and vengeful? My familiy would be dead for such things being reicprocally in equilibrium. The young deaths I have known in my lifetime came about in many ways. None of them have escaped what is expected as a fate due our condition as being housed in rented vessels. None escapes that experience. Life is short and the reminders grow daily. Even a full life at a ripened age is but the blink of an eye. I fill my memories with what I can. That is all I may take with me wherever I may go when this body no longer serves any use to me. Perhaps we are altogether unaware of all of the possibilities and circumstances endured by any other, but without excuse for any, we all have the personal responsibility to make whole all that we might of our own lives. AS nature teaches by example, the tree is known of its fruit. The nectar of the harbinger is the flavor that finds favor. Personally, I favor discriminately that which sustains me without offending my palette, and that is unique to each by the choices fielded. A good salad renders more benefits than a meal of fat. BUt a breakfast of bacon and eggs and potatoes fried in oil and english muffins with lots of butter is hard to ignore, and likely to leave me not feeling as well as a salad, but tasty and fun to feast on. It's all what me make of it.
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this Bible passage has been getting a lot of traction lately, as viewed from my seat at the table. It comes from a speech made by a friend of mine. Others have called it, The Sermon On The Mount. Luke 6:36-38. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again. // //
I think this is an excellent passage, with excellent advice. But is it not in exact opposition to this CatLady post here? She is saying that her god is unforgiving.... To the contrary my God is very very forgiven.....otherwise we would not be here right now.... |
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Death is certain but the Bible speaks about untimely death! Make a personal reflection about this..... Very interesting, read until the end..... It is written in the Bible (Galatians 6:7): Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man sow, that shall he also reap. Here are some men and women who mocked God: John Lennon (Singer): Some years before, during his interview with an American Magazine, he said: "Christianity will end, it will disappear. I do not have to argue about that. I am certain. Jesus was ok, but his subjects were too simple, today we are more famous than Him" (1966). Lennon, after saying that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus Christ, was shot six times. Tancredo Neves (President of Brazil ): During the Presidential campaign, he said if he got 500,000 votes from his party, not even God would remove him from Presidency. Sure he got the votes, but he got sick a day before being made President, then he died. Cazuza (Bi-sexual Brazilian composer, singer and poet): During A show in Canecio ( Rio de Janeiro ), while smoking his cigarette, he puffed out some smoke into the air and said:"God, that's for you." He died at the age of 32 of LUNG CANCER in a horrible manner. The man who built the Titanic After the construction of Titanic, a reporter asked him how safe the Titanic would be. With an ironic tone he said: "Not even God can sink it" The result: I think you all know what happened to the Titanic Marilyn Monroe (Actress) She was visited by Billy Graham during a presentation of a show. He said the Spirit of God had sent him to preach to her. After hearing what the Preacher had to say, she said: "I don't need your Jesus". A week later, she was found dead in her apartment Bon Scott (Singer) The ex-vocalist of the AC/DC. On one of his 1979 songs he sang: "Don't stop me; I'm going down all the way, down the highway to hell". On the 19th of February 1980, Bon Scott was found dead, he had been choked by his own vomit. Campinas (IN 2005) In Campinas , Brazil a group of friends, drunk, went to pick up a friend..... The mother accompanied her to the car and was so worried about the drunkenness of her friends and she said to the daughter holding her hand, who was already seated in the car: "My Daughter, Go With God And May He Protect You." She responded: "Only If He (God) Travels In The Trunk, Cause Inside Here.....It's Already Full " Hours later, news came by that they had been involved in a fatal accident, everyone had died, the car could not be recognized what type of car it had been, but surprisingly, the trunk was intact. The police said there was no way the trunk could have remained intact. To their surprise, inside the trunk was a crate of eggs, none was broken Christine Hewitt (Jamaican Journalist and entertainer) said the Bible (Word of God) was the worst book ever written. In June 2006 she was found burnt beyond recognition in her motor vehicle. Many more important people have forgotten that there is no other name that was given so much authority as the name of Jesus. Many have died, but only Jesus died and rose again, and he is still alive. And how many religious have died a horrible death? How do you logic this? Does not even make sense.
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When I originally posted the thread....I thought how odd how this happen with people after saying nasty things about God....It doesn't mean that it really was God....because we obviously can't have proof to that effect.......I think people need to lighten up here........I don't see people harassing rabbit for all the ones he put about Christians...so typical though.
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A 'God' who truly forgives harms no one, in any measure...
A 'God' who truly intercedes would do so for good reason, consistently... A 'God' who is truly perfect, would yield only perfection... A 'God' who loves would create only that which 'God' would love... A 'God' who is omnipotent would be... A 'God' who is omnibenevolent would be... A 'God' who is omniscient would be... A 'God' who created all things cannot be a 'God' which did not... That is the way I see it...
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Edited by
yzrabbit1
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Edited by
yzrabbit1
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Sun 02/24/08 10:16 AM
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When I originally posted the thread....I thought how odd how this happen with people after saying nasty things about God....It doesn't mean that it really was God....because we obviously can't have proof to that effect.......I think people need to lighten up here........I don't see people harassing rabbit for all the ones he put about Christians...so typical though. Because I immediately pointed out that I did not believe that they were punished. I was trying to show you that in the world you believe in they (the Christians) must have done something wrong. Because people who die early or in strange ways are being killed by your God. Something you are saying with your post. Something I disagree with completely |
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A 'God' who truly forgives harms no one, in any measure... A 'God' who truly intercedes would do so for good reason, consistently... A 'God' who is truly perfect, would yield only perfection... A 'God' who loves would create only that which 'God' would love... A 'God' who is omnipotent would be... A 'God' who is omnibenevolent would be... A 'God' who is omniscient would be... A 'God' who created all things cannot be a 'God' which did not... That is the way I see it...
hello my brother!
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Hey wouldee!
How are ya? Are you liking the racing season? 
Me being a Jr. fan, I am loving the possibilities!!!
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I think the original posting is vile.Its judgemental and tells all the grieving loved ones left behind that someones early demise was the loved ones fault.poppycock.Explain the infants,the children,the devout.God knows whats in peoples hearts and doesn't judge them based on quips,a moment of doubt or non belief.We all break the commandments everyday so whom ever wrote that judgemental piece of trash best look over their shoulder because they claim to know the will of God which don't sit well with Him or me. It is what it is....and sugar coating it doesn't make it not so. And where did you get from that posting that it was the loved ones fault. And honestly don't understand your rant truly. well i'll spell it out .when you make a list of people who made off hand remarks about God or the bible and try to draw a direct correllation between that and their untimely deaths basically waht you are saying is that its the person's fault they died early because they said something smartass or irreverent towards God which to me is an affront to the griefing who don't need to hear that line ofcrap and pretty ballsy cause you think you speak for God and know why things happen. Plenty of people meet untimely deaths,kids,devout people,innocent and guilty alike. Picking 5 examples out of millions of deaths and trying to say"This is what happens when you express anger or denial or a joke towards God" is just plain ludicrous. |
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