Topic: Liberia....Thank you George Bush...
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Fri 02/22/08 11:00 AM
Edited by Dragoness on Fri 02/22/08 11:08 AM

Ok dragon. Do you know what the war on terrorism is? Because its not a war on Bin Ladden. Yes it was started after 9/11, but its sole purpose is not to capture him its to "curb the spread of terrorism" He havent caught bin ladden because he is not being active and hiding out in caves. Its hard to catch someone when you dont know where he is. Saddam, however, has been supporting terrorism(such as paying families of suicide bombers). By stopping him we are curbing the spread of terrorism. There have been operations in Europe, Africa, Asian, and the Middle East.

We can't just steal their oil, the UN wouldn't allow it and thats just stupid if you think that. Now if we help them set up a government and they are pleased with us then yea we could become good friends and have better business relations. Who the *%$# cares. Saddam was a horrible person and those people deserve better.


Okay lets define terror-ist for those unfamaliar with the word or the picture that goes with it, shall we?

Bush's definition of the war on terror=Saddam

Everyone elses definition of terrorist and the war on terror=all terrorist world wide, not just arabic or Iraqi but world wide. War on terror to the world is a world wide problem not just one person or place.

Which would be a more effective war on terror, baby shrubs idea of Saddam and Iraq or the world view of every terrorist organization in the world and all it's participants?

You have been brainwashed to believe all terrorist are arab, all terrorist are Saddam, all terrorists need Iraq, etc.....

If your illustrious leader really wanted a war on terror he would have made it world wide, utilizing all nations and all militaries and all countries.

He is full of sh*t to say the Iraq will effect the terrorists of this world and he is full of sh*t to make everyone believe that Iraq will stop the influx of terrorists of this world, he is full of sh*t to make Saddam pay for 9/11, etc......

So if he is full of it, which he is and you buy into it then you are brainwashed. America was brainwashed, not all though, because I spoke out about this same thing years ago. I could see the error of his ways before we attacked Iraq. I do know that others could too.

So wallow in his sh*t if you want to I will choose the higher road and work to make my country better than baby shrub has made it.

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Fri 02/22/08 11:04 AM
Edited by Dragoness on Fri 02/22/08 11:05 AM



Oh and its not called brainwashing. Its called knowing the facts. I actually look things up and form an opinion about something rather than just tell everyone they are brainwashed.


You are obviously not looking up all information as I have done or you would not believe the brainwash fed you.


You are the one that sounds brainwashed. Apparently I am brainwashed because I think Saddam was a bad person because of all the horrible acts he as committed. I guess all the evidence about his use of mustard gas on his own people, harboring terrorists, and paying the families of suicide bombers are all lies and he was really a swell guy.


How did bin laden and Saddam change places after 9/11???? How did saddam who has been what he has been forever suddenly become intolerable to us after 9/11? Our government had utilized him in the past so we were accepting of him then. How does his misdeeds become an issue when bin laden perpetrates the greatest crime on our soil???? How does this happen??? Until you answer those questions and answer them well, you are brainwashed. Sorry

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Fri 02/22/08 11:14 AM
very interesting article

a paragraph from the conclusion

and part of introduction

and it has reference material at the end

Terrorism has existed for centuries as a means of making a government or group aware of a desire that they have to change something by creating destruction and fear. However, terrorism entered a new phase from September 2001. This report seeks to identify the impact of 21st Century terrorism on particular nations strongly affected, including the United States.

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Terrorism in the 21st Century has an impact on people and nations far greater than ever before, using the forces and tools of globalisation which have the ability to spread fear around the globe. The events of September 11 in 2001 triggered an international outcry, and subsequent attacks produced the recognition that no-one is safe wherever they are in the world.

http://www.socsci.flinders.edu.au/global/glob1002/2002book/globalisation%20website/converted/royans.html

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Fri 02/22/08 12:20 PM
Edited by soxfan94 on Fri 02/22/08 12:56 PM
I've thoroughly stated my position on everything which I feel necessary, and this thread has turned back into a discussion of actual topics, so I'll leave this space for you users to continue your substantitive debate.

Lindyy and nrthn_ynkee, best of luck to both of you in your future endeavors. Try not to use the term "pooper scooper" in too many of your arguments. (It might sound unprofessional to some drinker )

Edited: to acknowledge that some comments I made were not professional either. For those I am slightly regretful, although I still maintain that the allegations of verbosity left me no choice but to simplify! :tongue: )

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Fri 02/22/08 12:43 PM
Lilith says.... :heart: :heart:

Lilith says.... drinker drinker

Lilith says I hope you all have a good day, and thanks for much for the entertainment! Lilith's Happy!!! bigsmile

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Fri 02/22/08 12:45 PM
well cool i am glad you are happy

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Fri 02/22/08 12:52 PM
Lindy
I still think that someone that is educated such has yourself does not need to swear to make a point.. i actually do read what you say and give it thought .. I still make my own conclusions.. I just wish that you would not swear .. You have a great grasp on the English Language and are passionate about what you feel .. That I respect .. I just don't think you need to use 4 letter words to make your point .. I actaully research a lot of the information that you give in your post to help me make my conclusion of what I think it right .. I am however so happy to see anyone with convictions be they like minded or not .. It is sad that this world has become so jaded that a cuss word is not recognized , I would be eaten some soap if I ever said something like that in front of my grandma , so I use that has my guide to what is "colorful language and what is not ... I have remained nuetral in this debate .. except for that ... Take care and I hope that you do have enough insight to think about it .. You are much too good of a lady to lower your own standards ..and that I feel is a fact ( since you have shared with me some of the wonderful work that you volunteer and do)

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Fri 02/22/08 01:21 PM
I still think that someone that is educated such has yourself does not need to swear to make a point..


and an educated person can see that Lindyy didn't swear as you accuse her of doing...noway

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Fri 02/22/08 04:47 PM

Lindy
I still think that someone that is educated such has yourself does not need to swear to make a point.. i actually do read what you say and give it thought .. I still make my own conclusions.. I just wish that you would not swear .. You have a great grasp on the English Language and are passionate about what you feel .. That I respect .. I just don't think you need to use 4 letter words to make your point .. I actaully research a lot of the information that you give in your post to help me make my conclusion of what I think it right .. I am however so happy to see anyone with convictions be they like minded or not .. It is sad that this world has become so jaded that a cuss word is not recognized , I would be eaten some soap if I ever said something like that in front of my grandma , so I use that has my guide to what is "colorful language and what is not ... I have remained nuetral in this debate .. except for that ... Take care and I hope that you do have enough insight to think about it .. You are much too good of a lady to lower your own standards ..and that I feel is a fact ( since you have shared with me some of the wonderful work that you volunteer and do)


shoes:

Damn, I did not know damn was that bad of a word. REALLY! What can I say?

OK. Stop it now. You know very well I did not use vulgar language, never have, never will. NO NEED TO. I get my point across very well using proper English. People may not like the fervor that I put forth with my words, but that is not my concern.

I am very passionate about what I believe in, and that is what bothers people who oppose my views/opinions. I do not back down from what I believe in. And, I hope you stand by what you believe in too, and not let people even TRY to intimidate you.

Lindyy
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Fri 02/22/08 04:49 PM

I've thoroughly stated my position on everything which I feel necessary, and this thread has turned back into a discussion of actual topics, so I'll leave this space for you users to continue your substantitive debate.

Lindyy and nrthn_ynkee, best of luck to both of you in your future endeavors. Try not to use the term "pooper scooper" in too many of your arguments. (It might sound unprofessional to some drinker )

Edited: to acknowledge that some comments I made were not professional either. For those I am slightly regretful, although I still maintain that the allegations of verbosity left me no choice but to simplify! :tongue: )



Sorry Charlie, but go to a dog show any week, you will hear that 'pooper scooper' term used every hour if not more.
And, anyone who owns a dog really.

Next shot?


Lindyy


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Fri 02/22/08 04:50 PM
Damn, I did not know damn was that bad of a word. REALLY! What can I say?


in the context you used it is not a curse word...it depends on how the word is used whether or not it is a curse word..


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Fri 02/22/08 04:58 PM
it was not needed to make her point ... I would not say that in front of my grandmother or I would be eaten soap.. and wasn't that between Lindy and I .. she is very passionate about her beliefs and I respect but once I hear language well people stop listening .. and honestly to some prehaps the F word is not that bad .. I am just saying leave it out .. she got my drift and was a lady about it .. but lets not become so jaded that we forget our manners.. Thanks Lindy .. I respect your passion and am glad that you stand for something ... and even if I don't agree with what you are saying or if I do it is just nice to know that people still do care enough ... Peace and many blessings..
Your hippy friend
Rhon

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Fri 02/22/08 05:02 PM
it was not needed to make her point


you accused her of using a curse word when it was not....and now you think you can censure what people write...noway

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Fri 02/22/08 05:11 PM

it was not needed to make her point


you accused her of using a curse word when it was not....and now you think you can censure what people write...noway


Let it go. They did. flowerforyou

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Fri 02/22/08 05:13 PM
no .. I am saying that people stop listening .. I am against censurship but the forum has rules and I am not here to debate with you .. Lindy was awesome about it so why don't you follow her lead and be gracious too ..Lindy has shared with me some of the awesome work that she does and she is a woman of faith ..that will always have folks watching .. anywho I don't know you nor do I choose to continue discussing Lindy or myself with you .. have a wonderful night .. I know I will .. flowerforyou

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Fri 02/22/08 05:17 PM
Let it go. They did


the point is when people misinform others and insist on people using their standards it bothers me....

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Fri 02/22/08 05:19 PM
Edited by Troubled on Fri 02/22/08 05:23 PM

Let it go. They did


the point is when people misinform others and insist on people using their standards it bothers me....
You mean like George Bushbigsmile bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile

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Fri 02/22/08 05:26 PM
You mean like George Bush


no actually if you were listening the last time Bush took office he said exactly what he was going to do....you might not like what he said and what he's doing but that's too bad..

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Fri 02/22/08 05:39 PM

Let it go. They did


the point is when people misinform others and insist on people using their standards it bothers me....

But this wasn't about you. It was thier issue and they resolved it. It seems you are looking to start trouble. Leave it be. Move on.

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Fri 02/22/08 06:59 PM


Let it go. They did


the point is when people misinform others and insist on people using their standards it bothers me....

But this wasn't about you. It was thier issue and they resolved it. It seems you are looking to start trouble. Leave it be. Move on.


No, no, no. No way is northn yank trying to start trouble.noway I understand what you are saying, I know what northn yank is saying, I know what shoes is saying.

I swear, I did not swear!:tongue: :tongue:

But, for Heaven's sake, everyone gets into everyone's conversation on these posts. It is a known fact. It is human nature. That is what these posts are about, really.

It is just knowing when to stop, and if people are like me, well, I have a tendency to have to get the last word in. Just ask my son. No, don't ask my son. noway

Lindyy
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