1) Nobody defended this "churches" actions.
2) I doubt that the described incident actually happened
3) Most churches have a rule that they will help with current (not past due) bills. The information they take is used to verify the person's address and current bills. That prevents the church from being used. God called us to help our neighbors, not be fools. As far as food, they will give it to you when you go in, if they have any.

churchs are made by men. sadly sometimes people may fail in their judgment.
however, they need to screen the people they help.

Spider
whether it is true or not I have seen this practice. It still goes against the scriptures. I guess you can show scripture showing this type attitude is scriptural? Blessings...Miles

You have seen a woman turned away from a church without the food her children need? You are correct, that's not Christian behavior, if it's intentional. I have a friend who was turned away without food, because she got there after the food closet had been locked and nobody had the key. But then again, Christians are human.

Yea we are human. But what are we striving for? Did he not say be perfect as your father in heaven is perfect. The person who did not have the key. What is the church? A building that can niether speak or walk. We are the Temple so it is not just the churches responsibility but ours. If Yahweh lives in this Temple (his spirit) then turning away our fathers creation. Is against his ways..Blessings...Miles

A secretary, trying to make ends meet by working at a Church, turns away someone she can't help and that's wrong? You are being very judgemental. Unless you know for a fact that someone in the Church rejected someone out of greed, then you have no place saying their actions were wrong.

Spider

What is your definition of a church? Shalom...Miles

I don't feel like playing the definition game. You are being judgemental about an event that probably never happened. Deal with that instead of playing silly games with words.

Spider


Whether what happened or not really is for our good to think about the situation. Then reflect on our own lives. You think I am attacking someone. That's hard to do when all this is annomous.


What I am saying Spider and I am not attacking you or anyone else. Is questions like these are very good questions if we will apply them to ourselves. now i did judge what was being said about the topic not being scriptual and it is not. Now apply these to your own life and I hope you see what or where i am comming from. I guess i will say this is how i believe and my family has rejected me because they don't understand where I am comming from. If i help a complete stranger that is down and out and then struggle the rest of the month they think I am insane. I do not believe I am. Guess it depends on who you are asking.
But in this topic I see this.

1.. Yahweh gave his sons life to help us out of love.

2 We are told to be like Yahweh.

3 Abraham did the same thing and is emmensly blessed.He was going to but was stopped. He believed Yahweh.

4 Yahshua gave the parable about the stranger who was robbed and asked who was his friend.

5 When the Holy Spirit came we became the Temple made without hands.

6 Yahshua said no better friend than one who would die for you. Yahshua proved that.

7 We are all Yahweh's creation so who is your friend?

8.. In the same situation if it was your brother,sister,son or daughter would you make suree they had what they needed.

9.. If so? Then who did Yahshua tell us our family is?

I see this as one of the best questions i have seen on here for the believer. If we will only try to apply it to our lives and Yahshua's words.

May Yahweh Bless You and Yours....Shalom....Miles

I agree this probably is one of our culture's (western) weakest areas of showing intimate love in a self-sacrificing way, but the USA (and Christians from the USA) give the most in aid and opportunities than any other nation. That can be a big mountain for the individual to hide behind (that and our comfort). The view of the church is dry and dogmatic and basically un-fun or unfulfilling, which is a lie from the world and satan and those who are self-seeking. Growing up in this nation, how can anyone not have succumbed to any of those things. It's not about works, but about love. If we do not have the love of God in us, all of these great works or gifts or offices mean nothing (1 Corinthians 13). And I believe, through the Holy Spirit we can gain an understanding or personal knowledge of His great love for us. As we understand more fully, our fears of this world and our life will fade and we will be free from the traditions of men and even our own emotions. The Jesus movement in the 60's touched on that, but it got twisted off into this drop-out mentality which focused on self once again. There are a lot of self-help books out there that cloud the water as well. If we could heal ourselves Jesus would not have had to die for us, so the best self help can do is produce self-righteousness, and I believe the Father only sees the righteousness of Christ. I trust that God will change our hearts, and I will not blame others or accept blame from others for my walk with Jesus.

sometimes they do.all it takes is one accident,a fire etc.
also how much worse is no food or power?hello!