I would like to hear about the truly positive religions and philosophies for a change. Religions and philosophies that genuinely embrace love with out condemning it as a sin.

Religions and/or philosophies that allow for people to express their love via genuine and sincere loving physical intimacy without any need to willfully disobey a deity and be cast out of his grace because of their genuine and sincere love for one another.

I’m tired of hearing about the God who condemns love.

Tell me something positive and upbeat.

I don’t care whether it’s an official religion or your own personal philosophy. I don’t care whether it’s associated with a supreme deity or whether it’s a purely atheistic philosophy. Just share something positive. I’m really getting depressed hearing about the judgmental God who hates love and insists that it be a filthy sinful act that is considered to be willful disobedience.

Where’s the LOVE?

Please share any truly LOVING religions and/or philosophies that aren’t based on condemning love as a sin. I’m tired of hearing about the God of condemnation.

Now many would point out that God has killed children. Which is better: A child dies innocent or the child grows into a man who does evil his whole life and dies without repentance?

Who said anything about seeing Jesus? Jesus promised to reveal himself, which leads to the unwavering faith that so offends you and Abra.

I'm smart enough to know Christian doctrine. There is a reason why the Bible is called "the Sword of the spirit". A Christian can cut through the lies of Satan using the truth found within the Bible. Satan knows the Bible, but he twists the truth. A Christian who has armed him/herself will be able to cut through the lies to see Satan or his servants for what they are.

I have heard this illogical sick excuse from other fundamental Bible thumper's like you and it makes me think that you have no reasoning ability at all. No thinking mind of your own. You rationalize for your sick idea of a blood thirsty God.

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This kind of sick illogical reasoning proves to me that you are a blind sheep making excuses for an illogical religion.

1. The children were robbed of their lives.
2. The children were not given a chance to make any of their own decisions.
3. You are assuming that these innocent children had no other choice but to turn to evil. If that were so, then they were never innocent to begin with.

So why are Christians like you against abortion? Hey kill them while they are still "innocent." Kill the unborn too. Why wait for them to be born?

Unwavering faith does not offend me.

(And I don't consider you to have unwavering faith anyway. You waver all over the place or else you would not be so offended by other people's opinions about your beliefs.)

You are so full of rhetoric you have built a wall around yourself that keeps all reason and logic and common sense from penetrating. Inside that wall there exist only lies and deception that you have mistaken as truth. May you one day see the light and escape from that mind prison in which you live. Poor soul.

Jeannie

Would like to provide some evidence to back up that statement?

Because you are so easily offended by other people's opinions and beliefs, this demonstrates to me that you are not sure your beliefs are true. You have doubts. If you did not have doubts, you would not be so offended. You would just not consider my opinion of any importance to you. If my opinion is of no importance to you, you would not take offense with it.

"it makes me think that you have no reasoning ability at all"

"No thinking mind of your own."

"you are a blind sheep making excuses for an illogical religion. "

Those are unnecessary personal attacks. Please try to disagree without personally attacking those with whom you disagree.

1.I seem to remember you calling me and my friends "ilk." in a very disrespectful manner.

2. But if you will reread my statement they start with "it makes me think that you..."

Therefore I am simply telling you how I think and why I think it.

I did not make any direct personal statements about you. I simply let you know what I think. This amounts to admitting that it is my opinion.

as you are locked inside of a tiny little box.

This is called a "False Dilemma" fallacy. You are only looking at a limited number of possiblities. Your religion doesn't offend me, nobody's does. It does not offend me to hear another claim that his/her religion is the only true religion. I only get offended when Christianity is attacked. I love my religion, so I defend it. I believe that Christianity teaches the truth, so I defend the truth as I see it. I believe that Christianity teaches the way to salvation, so I must defend Christianity out of love for others, so that they are not mislead by lies.

(False Dilemma fallacy??")You can tag a name on anything if it makes you feel smart But everything boils down to perceptions and opinions. Dissect it anyway you wish.

I will not ever "attack" Christianity as long as you keep it out of my face. I don't consider expressing my opinion of Christianity an attack. You apparently do.

I'm going to get sick of this and then I'll have to take it to the mods. Please, let's not push this any further. I am perfectly willing to forgive and forget the insults you have made so far, but any further insults and I will have to report the posts to the mods. Let's try to keep the conversation going without resorting to insults.

Since you seem to be insulted by every opinion I express I can take that threat as your attempt to sensor my opinions, thoughts and words. This will be my last post in response to anything you have to say.

Genuinely Loving Religions and/or Philosophies.

It looks like no matter how hard we try we just can’t escape “The Judge”.

What do you call someone who sees one person called stupid and attacks that person for defending himself?