Topic: Would you convert to Scientology
MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:05 AM




Mirror it sounds like you live in cult central. A real church understands that God gave us free will and will let us do as we wish whilst reminding us that our actions have consequences.
Suz... I agree with you on this, however, I know many people ( in my family ) that don't believe in free will. They believe everything you do should be attributed to God. Anything you do that's wrong, is the devil taking you over and you aren't praying and being "christian" enough to keep the devil away...


My brother and I and one aunt are the only Christians in my family that I know of. As long as I am not breaking any laws, my mother doesn't care what I do.
Lucky you.. everytime I get around my family they try to get my soul back from the devil
smokin If you are not affiliated with a local church,they will do everything they can to find something to arrest you for or fine you for in order to dicourage you from living here.smokin

Jill298's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:06 AM





Mirror it sounds like you live in cult central. A real church understands that God gave us free will and will let us do as we wish whilst reminding us that our actions have consequences.
Suz... I agree with you on this, however, I know many people ( in my family ) that don't believe in free will. They believe everything you do should be attributed to God. Anything you do that's wrong, is the devil taking you over and you aren't praying and being "christian" enough to keep the devil away...


My brother and I and one aunt are the only Christians in my family that I know of. As long as I am not breaking any laws, my mother doesn't care what I do.
Lucky you.. everytime I get around my family they try to get my soul back from the devil
smokin If you are not affiliated with a local church,they will do everything they can to find something to arrest you for or fine you for in order to dicourage you from living here.smokin
I suggest moving

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:06 AM

Ok I am about to get seriously pissed mirror. I do not go around bashing other peoples religions. just because the church where you live is like that does not mean churches are like that world wide. i have been to some very nice churches. dont go bashing something until you fully understand it.
:heart: IM NOT BASHING.:heart: SEE WHAT I MEAN?noway

Suzanne20's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:07 AM


Ok I am about to get seriously pissed mirror. I do not go around bashing other peoples religions. just because the church where you live is like that does not mean churches are like that world wide. i have been to some very nice churches. dont go bashing something until you fully understand it.
:heart: IM NOT BASHING.:heart: SEE WHAT I MEAN?noway


Sounds to me like you have a problem with ALL Christian churches based on one bad experience.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:08 AM






Mirror it sounds like you live in cult central. A real church understands that God gave us free will and will let us do as we wish whilst reminding us that our actions have consequences.
Suz... I agree with you on this, however, I know many people ( in my family ) that don't believe in free will. They believe everything you do should be attributed to God. Anything you do that's wrong, is the devil taking you over and you aren't praying and being "christian" enough to keep the devil away...


My brother and I and one aunt are the only Christians in my family that I know of. As long as I am not breaking any laws, my mother doesn't care what I do.
Lucky you.. everytime I get around my family they try to get my soul back from the devil
smokin If you are not affiliated with a local church,they will do everything they can to find something to arrest you for or fine you for in order to dicourage you from living here.smokin
I suggest moving
smokin I grew up here.smokin I just pretend to agree with them.smokin

Jill298's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:08 AM







Mirror it sounds like you live in cult central. A real church understands that God gave us free will and will let us do as we wish whilst reminding us that our actions have consequences.
Suz... I agree with you on this, however, I know many people ( in my family ) that don't believe in free will. They believe everything you do should be attributed to God. Anything you do that's wrong, is the devil taking you over and you aren't praying and being "christian" enough to keep the devil away...


My brother and I and one aunt are the only Christians in my family that I know of. As long as I am not breaking any laws, my mother doesn't care what I do.
Lucky you.. everytime I get around my family they try to get my soul back from the devil
smokin If you are not affiliated with a local church,they will do everything they can to find something to arrest you for or fine you for in order to dicourage you from living here.smokin
I suggest moving
smokin I grew up here.smokin I just pretend to agree with them.smokin
then what's the complaint?

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:09 AM



Ok I am about to get seriously pissed mirror. I do not go around bashing other peoples religions. just because the church where you live is like that does not mean churches are like that world wide. i have been to some very nice churches. dont go bashing something until you fully understand it.
:heart: IM NOT BASHING.:heart: SEE WHAT I MEAN?noway


Sounds to me like you have a problem with ALL Christian churches based on one bad experience.
smokin Im not and I dont Suzy.:heart: Im just telling you what its like here.smokin Ive never had a negative experience with church.smokin

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:10 AM








Mirror it sounds like you live in cult central. A real church understands that God gave us free will and will let us do as we wish whilst reminding us that our actions have consequences.
Suz... I agree with you on this, however, I know many people ( in my family ) that don't believe in free will. They believe everything you do should be attributed to God. Anything you do that's wrong, is the devil taking you over and you aren't praying and being "christian" enough to keep the devil away...


My brother and I and one aunt are the only Christians in my family that I know of. As long as I am not breaking any laws, my mother doesn't care what I do.
Lucky you.. everytime I get around my family they try to get my soul back from the devil
smokin If you are not affiliated with a local church,they will do everything they can to find something to arrest you for or fine you for in order to dicourage you from living here.smokin
I suggest moving
smokin I grew up here.smokin I just pretend to agree with them.smokin
then what's the complaint?
smokin I originally got off on this tangent trying to make a point to spider and rabbit about Scientologysmokin

Suzanne20's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:11 AM
Then what did you mean by "its basicaly one church with different buildings"?"They all work together"?

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:12 AM

Then what did you mean by "its basicaly one church with different buildings"?"They all work together"?
glasses They are all offshoots of the same church in my local community.glasses They are all Holiness.glasses

Suzanne20's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:14 AM
You should've been more specific then because you said that in response to me saying "they are not like that worldwide" See how that can be misinterpreted?

no photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:16 AM

smokin Im not making this stuff up !!smokin Thats why this is so difficult.smokin The local Holiness church controls the entire political establishment.smokin They dress differently.smokin They kick people out.flowerforyou They did not allow the sell of alcohol until recentlysmokin They tell you to stay away from family and friends that are not members.smokin They pray and post their religious doctrines everywhere including the courthouse and the jail and schools.smokin All of the local officials are part of the same church.smokin You must not know a lot about the bible belt.smokin


Let's break this down...


The local Holiness church controls the entire political establishment


Really? Do you advocate the removing of the right to vote from Christians? Otherwise, how can you complain about this? If your local Christians elect Christian politicians...how is that wrong?


They dress differently


So?


They kick people out


Out of where?


They did not allow the sell of alcohol until recently


Dry county laws exist all over the south. They are very old laws, which I'm sure nobody alive had anything to do with.


They tell you to stay away from family and friends that are not members


Do they enforce this? Are you a member of this church? How do you know that they make these edicts?


They pray and post their religious doctrines everywhere including the courthouse and the jail and schools.


I find that VERY hard to believe. I don't doubt they pray in those places, but the ACLU would be all over them if they posted Christian literature in those places.


All of the local officials are part of the same church


Once again...what's wrong with that? If they have the votes (how the hell could one church have enough members to win all political seats?), then they have the right to put whomever (no matter the person's religion) into office.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:23 AM


smokin Im not making this stuff up !!smokin Thats why this is so difficult.smokin The local Holiness church controls the entire political establishment.smokin They dress differently.smokin They kick people out.flowerforyou They did not allow the sell of alcohol until recentlysmokin They tell you to stay away from family and friends that are not members.smokin They pray and post their religious doctrines everywhere including the courthouse and the jail and schools.smokin All of the local officials are part of the same church.smokin You must not know a lot about the bible belt.smokin


Let's break this down...


The local Holiness church controls the entire political establishment


Really? Do you advocate the removing of the right to vote from Christians? Otherwise, how can you complain about this? If your local Christians elect Christian politicians...how is that wrong?


They dress differently


So?


They kick people out


Out of where?


They did not allow the sell of alcohol until recently


Dry county laws exist all over the south. They are very old laws, which I'm sure nobody alive had anything to do with.


They tell you to stay away from family and friends that are not members


Do they enforce this? Are you a member of this church? How do you know that they make these edicts?


They pray and post their religious doctrines everywhere including the courthouse and the jail and schools.


I find that VERY hard to believe. I don't doubt they pray in those places, but the ACLU would be all over them if they posted Christian literature in those places.


All of the local officials are part of the same church


Once again...what's wrong with that? If they have the votes (how the hell could one church have enough members to win all political seats?), then they have the right to put whomever (no matter the person's religion) into office.
glasses They hold prayer in courthouse,school,everyday and have the 10 commandments posted in every public building.glasses We dnt have no ACLU around here.glasses You really dont understand this.glasses A lawyer from the ACLU wouldnt get anywhere around here.glasses They restricted cable telivision access until recently.glasses I grew up as one and I suppose they think I still am.glasses I dress like them sometimes.glasses Long sleeves,pants.glasses No jewelry.glasses Belt and boots.glasses They control the vote because they have the numbers.glasses Thats how they control everything.All the police and public officials are from the same church.glasses

TheiaLynn's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:28 AM
Think about it people religon is all man made that means some human came up with the concept and the practices of each religon!!!!!!!!The only thing i feel we should all know is that we should all make up our own minds on what we beleive!
Me I beleive my life has been spared 3 times just ask the hospitals i was in each of the times.
I do not beleive it was the doctors or the church that saved my life. I beleive the doctors had alot to do woth it but i am sure of this, I made the decision to live no one else and all the prayers to God, Alah Or jahova would not have saved me.
My take on religon is teach your children to beleive in them selvs and not hurt others and the rest is up to them.

no photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:30 AM
Edited by Spidercmb on Tue 02/12/08 10:30 AM

glasses They hold prayer in courthouse,school,everyday and have the 10 commandments posted in every public building.glasses We dnt have no ACLU around here.glasses You really dont understand this.glasses A lawyer from the ACLU wouldnt get anywhere around here.glasses They restricted cable telivision access until recently.glasses I grew up as one and I suppose they think I still am.glasses I dress like them sometimes.glasses Long sleeves,pants.glasses No jewelry.glasses Belt and boots.glasses They control the vote because they have the numbers.glasses Thats how they control everything.All the police and public officials are from the same church.glasses


Prayer in public isn't illegal. It's been done since the union was founded. Congress opens every day with a prayer. The 10 commandments is always posted inside of courthouses, because our laws are based on them.

TheiaLynn's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:31 AM
As for the post about if you don't belong to the church they arrest you or do all they can to run you out of town I grew up in just such a town.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:33 AM


glasses They hold prayer in courthouse,school,everyday and have the 10 commandments posted in every public building.glasses We dnt have no ACLU around here.glasses You really dont understand this.glasses A lawyer from the ACLU wouldnt get anywhere around here.glasses They restricted cable telivision access until recently.glasses I grew up as one and I suppose they think I still am.glasses I dress like them sometimes.glasses Long sleeves,pants.glasses No jewelry.glasses Belt and boots.glasses They control the vote because they have the numbers.glasses Thats how they control everything.All the police and public officials are from the same church.glasses


Prayer in public isn't illegal. It's been done since the union was founded. Congress opens every day with a prayer. The 10 commandments is always posted inside of courthouses, because our laws are based on them.
smokin So now your starting to believe me !!laugh LOLlaugh Now your starting to understand how it works.drinker Technically its all legal.drinker I never said it wasnt.smokin I was pointing out that Scientology doesnt sound much different in its practices than the practices of the church in my local community.smokin

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:34 AM

As for the post about if you don't belong to the church they arrest you or do all they can to run you out of town I grew up in just such a town.
drinker I new somebody would finally know what i was talking aboutdrinker

TheiaLynn's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:52 AM
The town i grew up in was all of 215 people the bishop was the principal of the school too and the judge was his brother etc...
You get the picture i was actually told i would never graduate because i was not a member of their church!!! So what did I do I left school!! Now I have a degree from UW Plattville Engenering sciences. I just wrote my first book, working on a second currently,also working on opening my own business!! They told me i would never be anything because i was not in their religon well I say laugh Look at me now!!!!

BigCurt_31's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:56 AM
Edited by BigCurt_31 on Tue 02/12/08 11:00 AM
Superfluous bull****! Scientology a church? I think not. It was founded in the 50's by a man with a get rich scheme. Granted it is no different than Jim Baker using the PTL club as a get rich scheme. But, Scientology has no God. Heck, even MT. Olympus has God's. It is no more than a "PYRAMID SCHEME!" and anyone that reads that damn book who has any intellect about them can disseminate this. The person who has paid in the most money holds the most power in this mad religion. It is a joke. Bah, I'd rather sell my soul to the devil and have written in blood than be stupid and join L. Ron's convenant. At least I know I was going somewhere and not str8t to the bank to help some guy buy a porsche.