Topic: "Secret" of SUCCESS
Derekkye's photo
Sun 02/10/08 07:49 PM
God's law.
Righteousness.
Truth.
In keeping these is SUCCESS & great reward.:smile:

Not really a secret at all, but the world does not teach this. Give it a try before you knock it.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 02/10/08 07:52 PM
devil

fastlinnie's photo
Sun 02/10/08 07:54 PM

devil
laugh laugh laugh smokin

PATSFAN's photo
Sun 02/10/08 07:54 PM
Always be honest, thats the way I am.. even though it gets me in trouble sometimes!! But I rather not lie....

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Sun 02/10/08 07:57 PM
Dereks secrets to success is very true, yet another secret to success is to add me as a friend and receive laughter that will ensure positive energy everywhere you go.

thank you

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Sun 02/10/08 08:00 PM
Hey...Derekkye...I fully agree.:smile:

wzrunner's photo
Sun 02/10/08 08:06 PM
Very true

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 02/10/08 09:56 PM
God's law.
Righteousness.
Truth.
In keeping these is SUCCESS & great reward.


I would beg to differ. This is not the recipe for SUCCESS & great reward. At least not in this life. It might lead to some kind of reward in an afterlife, but it’s definitely not the recipe for success in this life. There is no question about this whatsoever. There are many examples of extremely righteous men (and women) who followed God’s law and lived for truth, but were not successful in this life in any measurable way.

Not really a secret at all, but the world does not teach this. Give it a try before you knock it.


It would be wrong to teach children that this is a ‘secret’ or a 'pathway' to success because it would be a lie.

You say, "Give it a try before you knock it”. I have given it as much of a try as a person can possibly give it, and it does not lead to success and great reward. It’s simply not true. Nor does it teach this in the Bible. So why would you claim that it should be true?

I can absolutely unequivocally guarantee that what I say here is not true based on my very own life’s experience. You are really being extremely judgmental of people if you believe that everyone who has been unsuccessful in life can only be that way because they have not been righteous. There are many very righteous people in this life who have not been successful.

My mother is the perfect example. I can’t imagine anyone being any more righteous than my mother. She had absolutely no vices that I am aware of. She never even so much as gossiped about people. And I think the worst word I ever heard her utter was “Oh shoot!” and she even covered her mouth when she said that!

She was a devoted Christian. She read the Bible every single night, without exception. She attended church twice a week. Not a holy-roller, nor a proselytizer. A truly meek person who was as righteous as a person can be. Yet she was not ‘successful’ in this life, nor did she reap great rewards.

What you are claiming here simply isn’t true. Period. And if it claims that this should be true in the Bible I would love to see where that is written because I’ll just add it to my list of ‘lies from the Bible’.

If someone as righteous as my mother wasn’t successful and rewarded greatly for her devotion to God, then everyone else may as well give up trying right now. And that’s no joke! Because unless they have absolutely no vices whatsoever, and don’t drink, smoke, swear and even gossip, then they don’t have a prayer in hell. My mother never even held a grudge against people who ripped her off, she forgave them instantly.

Nope, you’d be really hard-pressed to be more righteous than my mother was, and she was definitely not successful, nor was she greatly rewarded. At least not in this life. My father died when I was 9 and my mother struggled through the rest of her life on very meager wages. She never greatly rewarded for her devotion to God, at least not in this life. Hopefully, she got her reward in the next life. If not, then she was devoted to God for nothing.

In fact, I know a lot of people who are righteous and who are definitely struggling to get though this life. Being devoted to the biblical God does not guarantee success nor great reward.

Where did you read that? huh

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Mon 02/11/08 03:59 AM
perhaps it all boils down to one's meaning of success? It would appear to me that the word "content" or "fulfilled" are more in order. One may be content with ones life yet not necessarily be successful.

Truth is an abstract, multi-faceted like a jewel. One person's truth is another person's war-call.

flowerforyou


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Mon 02/11/08 04:27 AM
Edited by Abracadabra on Mon 02/11/08 04:31 AM

It would appear to me that the word "content" or "fulfilled" are more in order. One may be content with ones life yet not necessarily be successful.


Exactly.

And there is a huge difference between being 'content' and being 'fulfilled'.

Being 'content' is being satisfied with an unfulfilled life. :wink:

An no matter how you measure ‘success’, it’s not going to equal SUCCESS (in all CAPS) and ‘great rewards’.

Great Rewards is not at all the same thing as being ‘content’ with an unfulfilled life.

If what was really meant is that a person will find ‘peace within’ then so be it. Peace within does not equal SUCCESS with GREAT REWARDS! Having your loving husband die when you have no job, two small children, and a house you can’t afford to pay the mortgage on, is hardly “Success with Great Rewards”.

Playing with words isn’t going to cut it. :wink:

By the way, just for the record, you can totally reject the Bible and have piece within and know the love of the real living God. I can give testament to that! God is not the least bit concerned with how you think of her. She loves everyone, no matter what they might perceive her to be like. flowerforyou

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Mon 02/11/08 04:25 PM
laugh Abra: love your posts!

Coincidentally, to my knowledge, Abracadabra means, "As I speak it, so it comes to be. . ."

To the original poster: May I recommend "The Four Agreements" (Google search this title for more information). The author's thesis seems to resonate with the vibration of what you originally expressed. . .

Magically,
Michael

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Mon 02/11/08 05:09 PM
CHEATING WORKS TOO!

BillingsDreamer's photo
Thu 02/14/08 05:33 PM
I believe that just like the laws of physics there are laws to success. I would suggest the following:

1. Pick a worthy goal--one that you desire to attain. Write it down. Define it in detail. Then set the short term goals that will eventually lead to the fulfillment of your long term goal.

2. Prepare for success by getting a good education. If there is a certain field you want to enter, become an expert in that field. Continue to spend 1/2 hour at least every day studying new things in your field

3. Live in such a way as to preserve your health. It won't do any good to attain success if you don't live to enjoy it. So, eat right, sleep, and keep a positive mental attitude. This will keep your mind alert and your body capable of doing what is necessary to attain success.

4. The winners drive themselves. We must exercise effort every day to succeed. Put out real effort, drive ourselves. Don't let down, and ultimately you will succeed. The lazy sometimes fall into success, but it is not the norm.

5. Be persistent. Don't let temporary failures, set backs, or let downs dissuade you from your goal. Everyone finds a time when they want to give up. That is the time to put in extra effort. Some times it is just a fine line between success and failure, and by staying with it, you can make it happen. Those who quit never succeed.

6. Be resourceful. Don't expect your success to come by doing the same thing over and over. If it is not working, find another path around the mountain. Be creative.

7. Make God your partner. There are things that we cannot always overcome on our own. There is a place for supernatural help. Thus, keeping God's holy law, striving to live a righteous life, and being faithful to God can give us an edge that others do not have.

Art

BillingsDreamer's photo
Thu 02/14/08 05:36 PM

God's law.
Righteousness.
Truth.
In keeping these is SUCCESS & great reward.


I would beg to differ. This is not the recipe for SUCCESS & great reward. At least not in this life. It might lead to some kind of reward in an afterlife, but it’s definitely not the recipe for success in this life. There is no question about this whatsoever. There are many examples of extremely righteous men (and women) who followed God’s law and lived for truth, but were not successful in this life in any measurable way.

Not really a secret at all, but the world does not teach this. Give it a try before you knock it.


It would be wrong to teach children that this is a ‘secret’ or a 'pathway' to success because it would be a lie.

You say, "Give it a try before you knock it”. I have given it as much of a try as a person can possibly give it, and it does not lead to success and great reward. It’s simply not true. Nor does it teach this in the Bible. So why would you claim that it should be true?

I can absolutely unequivocally guarantee that what I say here is not true based on my very own life’s experience. You are really being extremely judgmental of people if you believe that everyone who has been unsuccessful in life can only be that way because they have not been righteous. There are many very righteous people in this life who have not been successful.

My mother is the perfect example. I can’t imagine anyone being any more righteous than my mother. She had absolutely no vices that I am aware of. She never even so much as gossiped about people. And I think the worst word I ever heard her utter was “Oh shoot!” and she even covered her mouth when she said that!

She was a devoted Christian. She read the Bible every single night, without exception. She attended church twice a week. Not a holy-roller, nor a proselytizer. A truly meek person who was as righteous as a person can be. Yet she was not ‘successful’ in this life, nor did she reap great rewards.

What you are claiming here simply isn’t true. Period. And if it claims that this should be true in the Bible I would love to see where that is written because I’ll just add it to my list of ‘lies from the Bible’.

If someone as righteous as my mother wasn’t successful and rewarded greatly for her devotion to God, then everyone else may as well give up trying right now. And that’s no joke! Because unless they have absolutely no vices whatsoever, and don’t drink, smoke, swear and even gossip, then they don’t have a prayer in hell. My mother never even held a grudge against people who ripped her off, she forgave them instantly.

Nope, you’d be really hard-pressed to be more righteous than my mother was, and she was definitely not successful, nor was she greatly rewarded. At least not in this life. My father died when I was 9 and my mother struggled through the rest of her life on very meager wages. She never greatly rewarded for her devotion to God, at least not in this life. Hopefully, she got her reward in the next life. If not, then she was devoted to God for nothing.

In fact, I know a lot of people who are righteous and who are definitely struggling to get though this life. Being devoted to the biblical God does not guarantee success nor great reward.

Where did you read that? huh



But, what if the goal was the Kingdom of God and not money or recognition in this life. I read this and thought, Wow! Success. Who does not admire the story of your mother. And she raised you without tons of boyfriends, numbing her pain with alcohol, and no drugs. You are the product of her success.

Art

anoasis's photo
Thu 02/14/08 05:47 PM

God's law.
Righteousness.
Truth.
In keeping these is SUCCESS & great reward.:smile:

Not really a secret at all, but the world does not teach this. Give it a try before you knock it.


What do you mean by "righteousness"?

Also, truth is very useful but is there not something to be said for knowing when to withhold information, timing, tact, subtlety, politeness and other shadings of truth?

Peace. flowerforyou