thats cold girlfriend...a society's strength is how it treats its most needy (for lack of better word)citizens.But for the grace of God go I..one bad accident could put you in need..compassion is getting to be a rare commodity it seems.

Dragoness:

"We created this problem by allowing the illegals for many many years and paying no mind to it. We the people of this country enjoyed the slave labor, this includes us normal people, not just the rich, so we are at fault here for the problem being what it is today. People can get as mad as they want but they need to kick their own butts first for paying no mind to it for the last 50 years or so. Then after they recover from kicking their own butt then they need to work on resolving the issue humanely. These are humans we are talking about not animals, although some would love us to think of them this way. We treat all humans with the respect and consideration we expect for ourselves first.

Agree with you on most of what you say. See a post I have written about taxes on homes in PA.

BUT, if these illegals were not here, they would be committing the crimes in their OWN county, not the US. I do not want to hear about the crimes certain citizens of the US commit. IT IS TOTALLY IRRELEVANT TO THE TOPIC OF ILLEGAL ALIENS. And you are wrong, they reap benefits from this country. They get free schooling, medical care, etc. Just check out California.

I have No COMPASSION for illegals who disrespect my country, commit crimes and bring in their illegal drugs.

DON'T DO THE CRIME IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME.

Lindyy's message to illegals commiting crimes in the USA.



So wanting a change is good, wanting to be hateful and spiteful and inhumane is not.

Dragoness:

"No compassion for another human is not something to brag about or post proudly. I would say it is a shameful statement and should be kept to oneself or only spoken with those of like ilk. My opinion of course.

I understand the issues involved but I will not ever not have compassion for another human. I respect life too much for that."

Lindyy says:

I have NO COMPASSION on an illegal alien who comes to the United States and murders, rapes, robs, terrorizes a fellow CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES.

I pose to you Dragoness, this question:

WHERE IS YOUR COMPASSION FOR THE US CITIZEN THAT THE ILLEGAL ALIEN(S) HAVE COMMITTED ON INNOCENT U.S.CITIZENS??????????????????????????????????

Going by YOUR philosophy, we are to "pat on the back" the criminal illegal alien, oh, your poor, poor misunderstood baby, and SCREW the U.S. citizen and his/her family that you just murdered, robbed, raped, supplied illegal drugs to further demoralize our counry, terorized, and on an on.

You want us to have compassion on illegal aliens who have done that to our U.S. citizens? To our country? Are your serious?

YOUR MAIN MO IS TO FORGET THE UNITED STATES' CITIZENS.

Lindyy

Dragoness:

Enter the no spin zone.

You have no compassion for the US citizen that the illegal alien murdered, raped, robbed, terrorized, and on and on and on.

THAT IS A TOTAL DISGRACE AND A BLATANT DISRESPECT FOR THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES.

Lindyy

Certain people are angry that
the US might protect its own
borders, might make it harder
to sneak into this country and,
once here, to stay indefinitely.

Let me see if I correctly understand
the thinking behind these illegal alien defenders.

Let's say I break into your house.
Let's say that when you discover
me in your house, you insist that I leave.
But I say, 'No! I like it here.
It's better than my house. I've made all
the beds and washed the
dishes and did the laundry
and swept the floors. I've
done all the things you don't
like to do. I'm hard-working
and honest
(except for when I broke into your house).

According to these illegal alien defenders:
You are Required to let me stay in your house
You are Required to feed me
You are Required to add me to your family's insurance plan
You are Required to Educate my kids
You are Required to Provide other benefits to me & to my family
(my spouse will do all of your yard work because
he is also hard-working and honest, except for that
breaking in part).


If you try to call the police or force me out,
I will call my friends who will picket your
house carrying signs that proclaim my
RIGHT to be there.


It's only fair, after all, because you have
a nicer house than I do, and I'm just
trying to better myself. I'm a hard-working
and honest, person, except for well,
you know, I did break into your house
And what a deal it is for me!!!


I live in your house, contributing only a
fraction of the cost of my keep, and
there is nothing you can do about it
without being accused of being cold,
uncaring, selfish, prejudiced, and
bigoted behavior.


Oh yeah, I DEMAND that you learn
MY LANGUAGE!!! so you can
communicate with me.


Why can't people see how ridiculous
this is?! Only in America

while researching this, yet another government welfare handout program, and its little off shoot programs.... can you tell me the purpose of freakin social security in the first place. add to that the life expectancy of the average american in the year that this socialist program was enacted(illegally) on the us people?

you weent expected to live long enough to receive any benies from the damn thing. or if you did it woldnt be for a prolonged time.... now its engrained itself as yet another "right"? screw that, needs to be abolished, theres enough welfare to go around,,, or if you cant stand to have your welfare taken away, how about we at very least- stop letting non citizens from receiving moey that should not be going to them. I do not recall having read or otherwise being taught anywhere in the constitution it being written or implied that non cits be "entitled" to everything equally or otherwise as a TRUE damn citizen.

screw it Im all about isolationism, seal the borders(and i mean for flippin real, seal the damn things off), let the world police itself for awhile... you want your entitlements "my right to welfare" its about the only thing left to do.... of course there is the old mother russian way, nah you couldnt live with the communist tag placed on yourselves, forget the fact that that is what most extremist left or right try to steer the country towards. but do whatcha wanna do....... you're not really the ones paying for it anyway.


pass the hooka


doc

Armydoc:

First, the very first post I started this off with explains why social security was begun.

Second, THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When I did immigration law, and saw what the people who wanted to enter this country the LEGAL way, what they went through to accomplish this PRIVILEGE, I said "not only do I vehemently feel the borders need sealed, secured, we also need to have, well, sorry, doc, I can't say, as I will get blasted to you know where and back, but a little more "force" needs to be put in place to secure our borders and protect the safety of the United States of America. ENOUGH of the disrespect these illegals give our great country!

Lindyy

Dragoness...your very last statement
"It is our fault they are here." says it all about your flawed logic. I don't remeber ever hearing about our troops going into mexico to force these people at gun point to come over and break our laws by crossing the border ILLEGALLY.So how does all this become OUR FAULT ????

As for the disrespect they show our country some of them appreciate this country that hates them more than the citizens here do. They understand coming from where they do the advantages we have here. The propaganda has all of them being criminals and such. They are for the most part hard working people who saw a chance to better their lives and took it. One has to understand this position. Now laws have to be followed but if they have not been followed for 50 years and suddenly "people" notice this, the issue becomes more complex then just enforcing the original laws. We must be humane, considerate and empathatic to the other humans of which we speak.

I would agree with that last sentence, with the exception of those who break our laws other than being here illegally.

Any illegal convicted of a felony should be kicked out of the country, period!!! Don't pass Go, don't collect 200 dollars.

Unfortunately, it's not that simple.

You have the Mexican Mafia selling meth in this country and they have mules, right? Someone buys the meth from them, not necessarily an illegal alien. Other crimes (done by people high on meth or doing crimes to get money to get more meth) result from this.

So not only does there need to be a crackdown on the supply,
but also the demand.