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Topic: Am I un american?
Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Tue 01/29/08 07:43 PM
I never said one life was worth more than another. I said a guilty persons right to not be tortured is less than thousands of innocent peoples lives.

toastedoranges Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 11042	Tue 01/29/08 07:45 PM
I never said one life was worth more than another. I said a guilty persons right to not be tortured is less than thousands of innocent peoples lives. torture is unjust and would you really trust our government with free reign over torture?

revolution Joined Wed 04/25/07 Posts: 489	Tue 01/29/08 07:46 PM
so after the torture the illegal wiretaping, the war based on lies, the econonmy down the drain, the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer, the treaty betrayals all the way to the geneva convention am I unamerican to be outraged? no you are not...your statement is exactly what this country was built on....dont get me wrong I think its one of the best places to live in the world but we've got major problems in the good old USA

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Tue 01/29/08 07:51 PM
I never said one life was worth more than another. I said a guilty persons right to not be tortured is less than thousands of innocent peoples lives. torture is unjust and would you really trust our government with free reign over torture? i never said free reign did i. I said in a hypothetical worst case scenario when you have proof and people lives are in imidiate danger.

toastedoranges Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 11042	Tue 01/29/08 07:56 PM
i never said free reign did i. I said in a hypothetical worst case scenario when you have proof and people lives are in imidiate danger. you do know that it doesn't work, don't you?

leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Tue 01/29/08 09:26 PM
Dragoness...... Please re-read my post. I mentioned the president only one time. I address multiple issues. To answer your query, yes. One of the many things that makes you un-American is your distortion of facts. Additionally, since this thread is about whether you are un-American, you take great pleasure in bringing down our president and our government, clearly the actions of one who hates America. Once again, answering your query as to whether you are un-American, you get off on anything that has to do with the country going down the tubes. You have an agenda, which is clearly un-American. So, once again to answer your question, you are un-American and anti-American. However, I am amazed that you would start a thread asking the query are you un-American since, if the question has to be asked, then the answer can only be a resounding YES, YOU ARE ANTI-AMERICAN and UN-AMERICAN.

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Tue 01/29/08 09:33 PM
Dragoness...... Please re-read my post. I mentioned the president only one time. I address multiple issues. To answer your query, yes. One of the many things that makes you un-American is your distortion of facts. Additionally, since this thread is about whether you are un-American, you take great pleasure in bringing down our president and our government, clearly the actions of one who hates America. Once again, answering your query as to whether you are un-American, you get off on anything that has to do with the country going down the tubes. You have an agenda, which is clearly un-American. So, once again to answer your question, you are un-American and anti-American. However, I am amazed that you would start a thread asking the query are you un-American since, if the question has to be asked, then the answer can only be a resounding YES, YOU ARE ANTI-AMERICAN and UN-AMERICAN. I do somewhat agree that he does come across that way. There is a difference between disagreeing with the system and attacking it.

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Tue 01/29/08 09:40 PM
i never said free reign did i. I said in a hypothetical worst case scenario when you have proof and people lives are in imidiate danger. you do know that it doesn't work, don't you? Seeing that I have never known an even that fit my hypothetical where they knew the guy had the info and there was not time for anything else then I must say no. If there are other ways then fine by me. All I am saying is in a worst case hypothetical with all other options exhausted I wouldn't want to give up without trying. Yet I am not asking anyone to agree with me. One great thing about our country is we are allowed to have opinions and express them.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Tue 01/29/08 09:45 PM
Dragoness...... Please re-read my post. I mentioned the president only one time. I address multiple issues. To answer your query, yes. One of the many things that makes you un-American is your distortion of facts. Additionally, since this thread is about whether you are un-American, you take great pleasure in bringing down our president and our government, clearly the actions of one who hates America. Once again, answering your query as to whether you are un-American, you get off on anything that has to do with the country going down the tubes. You have an agenda, which is clearly un-American. So, once again to answer your question, you are un-American and anti-American. However, I am amazed that you would start a thread asking the query are you un-American since, if the question has to be asked, then the answer can only be a resounding YES, YOU ARE ANTI-AMERICAN and UN-AMERICAN. I did not start this post asking about my patriotism. I know I am way more American then those who will follow a dictator like baby shrub quietly to their deaths without one protest. He is killing our young people. He is the one who initiated an illegal war. He is the one who wanted Saddam so we got Saddam. But WHERE THE HELL IS THE PERPETRATOR OF 9/11? The Perpetrator of 9/11 is the one who killed those poor innocent people, WHERE THE HELL IS HE? WHERE IS BIN LADEN? I want bin laden to pay for his crimes against America, not Saddam, I want my young Americans to stop dying when we are not getting bin laden. If you are not enough of an American to require a better president than baby shrub, not my problem. I am an American and I want the dictator baby shrub away from us so he can do no more damage. He will never pay the price for his crimes against America but he should.

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Tue 01/29/08 09:54 PM
Uhh he is not a dictator. He doesn't have power to do anything without the consent of Congress.

BrandonJItaliano Joined Tue 01/15/08 Posts: 1022	Tue 01/29/08 09:56 PM
nah Spending money on a worthless war while we still have a need for a place like St. Judes hospital is UN-American.

toastedoranges Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 11042	Tue 01/29/08 09:57 PM
Uhh he is not a dictator. He doesn't have power to do anything without the consent of Congress. have you watched his various cabinet members be questioned in front of congress?

leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Tue 01/29/08 09:57 PM
Dragoness...... You seem like a reasonable person, so I am going to give you a helpful suggestion. When you engage in name calling, referring to the president as a "dictator," throw out metaphors like "baby shrub" that do not make sense, accuse the president of "killing our young people," throwing out the termonology "illegal war," and use profanity, you lose your credibility. Rather than do the above which makes you appear to know nothing except one liners, you'd be better off to engage in constructive criticism of me or the president, or whatever.

toastedoranges Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 11042	Tue 01/29/08 10:05 PM
Dragoness...... You seem like a reasonable person, so I am going to give you a helpful suggestion. When you engage in name calling, referring to the president as a "dictator," throw out metaphors like "baby shrub" that do not make sense, accuse the president of "killing our young people," throwing out the termonology "illegal war," and use profanity, you lose your credibility. Rather than do the above which makes you appear to know nothing except one liners, you'd be better off to engage in constructive criticism of me or the president, or whatever. that's your opinion. i see little fault in their logic. bush has us fighting a diversion of a war and is getting tons of young people killed because he's too much of an ass to back out. i can't understand not being upset about every thing the man does. he manages to turn everything he touches to ****

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Tue 01/29/08 10:06 PM
Yea throwing people into war. In december I went to take the air force officer test cause I was considering becoming an engineer for the air force. Had to go out of town and stay at a hotel where lots of other people joining all different military branches. (most were actually entry lv.. privates and what not) Anyway most seemed really excited to join the army and some were even talking about asking for early deployment. Either way they didnt seem like they were being thrown into war to me.

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Tue 01/29/08 10:07 PM
Dragoness...... You seem like a reasonable person, so I am going to give you a helpful suggestion. When you engage in name calling, referring to the president as a "dictator," throw out metaphors like "baby shrub" that do not make sense, accuse the president of "killing our young people," throwing out the termonology "illegal war," and use profanity, you lose your credibility. Rather than do the above which makes you appear to know nothing except one liners, you'd be better off to engage in constructive criticism of me or the president, or whatever. that's your opinion. i see little fault in their logic. bush has us fighting a diversion of a war and is getting tons of young people killed because he's too much of an ass to back out. i can't understand not being upset about every thing the man does. he manages to turn everything he touches to **** You know Hilary and Obama both said they wouldn't be able to pull out their first term.

toastedoranges Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 11042	Tue 01/29/08 10:09 PM
You know Hilary and Obama both said they wouldn't be able to pull out their first term. well of course we can't just pull out now, we're in too deep and we've screwed up their country too bad. the breaking point was long since passed. but he provides no reassurance that we won't be there forever, instead he throws more troops at the problem. and please, i'm not a dem

leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Tue 01/29/08 10:19 PM Edited by leahmarie on Tue 01/29/08 10:21 PM
toastedotanges...... You are doing the same thing .... throwing out one liners that have no substance, other than stressing trailer trash language and profanity. Look at what you said: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- bush has us fighting a diversion of a war tons of young people killed because he's too much of an ass to back out. he manages to turn everything he touches to ****

toastedoranges Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 11042	Tue 01/29/08 10:24 PM
toastedotanges...... You are doing the same thing .... throwing out one liners that have no substance, other than stressing trailer trash language and profanity. Look at what you said: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- bush has us fighting a diversion of a war tons of young people killed because he's too much of an ass to back out. he manages to turn everything he touches to **** i know what i typed. i don't see how any rational person can disagree.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Tue 01/29/08 10:30 PM
Dragoness...... You seem like a reasonable person, so I am going to give you a helpful suggestion. When you engage in name calling, referring to the president as a "dictator," throw out metaphors like "baby shrub" that do not make sense, accuse the president of "killing our young people," throwing out the termonology "illegal war," and use profanity, you lose your credibility. Rather than do the above which makes you appear to know nothing except one liners, you'd be better off to engage in constructive criticism of me or the president, or whatever. Like I need your advice If you can't see the truth of the situation, that is not my fault and I am telling the truth. No exagerations at all. You can follow blindly and I will choose to keep my eyes open to see the pitfalls coming my way. Baby shrub is an imbicile, there is no way around it. He has shamed my America, and I am pissed about it. WHERE THE HELL IS THE PERPETRATOR OF 9/11???!!!!!