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Topic: Altruism
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Sat 01/19/08 01:32 PM
Altruism is selfless concern for the welfare of others. It is a traditional virtue in many cultures, and central to many religious traditions. In English, this idea was often described as the Golden rule of ethics. Some newer philosophies such as egoism have criticized the concept, with writers arguing that there is no moral obligation to help others.

Altruism can be distinguished from a feeling of loyalty and duty. Altruism focuses on a motivation to help others or a want to do good without reward, while duty focuses on a moral obligation towards a specific individual (for example, God, a king), a specific organization (for example, a government), or an abstract concept (for example, patriotism etc). Some individuals may feel both altruism and duty, while others may not. Pure altruism is giving without regard to reward or the benefits of recognition.

The concept has a long history in philosophical and ethical thought, and has more recently become a topic for psychologists (especially evolutionary psychology researchers), sociologists, evolutionary biologists, and ethologists. While ideas about altruism from one field can have an impact on the other fields, the different methods and focuses of these fields lead to different perspectives on altruism.


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Sat 01/19/08 01:34 PM
I all for that!

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Sat 01/19/08 01:35 PM
A new study by Samuel Bowles at the Santa Fe Institute in New Mexico, US, is seen by some as breathing new life into the model of group selection for Altruism, known as "Survival of the nicest". Bowles conducted a genetic analysis of contemporary foraging groups, including Australian aboriginals, native Siberian Inuit populations and indigenous tribal groups in Africa. It was found that hunter-gatherer bands of up to 30 individuals were considerably more closely related than was previously thought. Under these conditions, thought to be similar to those of the middle and upper Paleolithic, altruism towards other group-members would improve the overall fitness of the group.

If an individual defended the group but was killed, any genes that the individual shared with the overall group would still be passed on. Early customs such as food sharing or monogamy could have levelled out the “cost” of altruistic behaviour, in the same way that income taxes redistribute income in society. He assembled genetic, climactic, archaeological, ethnographic and experimental data to examine the cost-benefit relationship of human cooperation in ancient populations. In his model, members of a group bearing genes for altruistic behaviour pay a "tax" by limiting their reproductive opportunities to benefit from sharing food and information, thereby increasing the average fitness of the group as well as their inter-relatedness. Bands of altruistic humans would then act together to gain resources from other groups at this challenging time in history.


"Survival of the nicest". :smile:

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Sat 01/19/08 01:39 PM
Hey rainbow...flowerforyou

Altruism is often regarded as harmfully selfless...

Of course if there were no others in the world who would take advantage of another there would be no problems...

or capitalism...:wink:

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Sat 01/19/08 01:48 PM
I wonder how many nice people you can have at one time? creativesoulflowerforyou

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Sat 01/19/08 01:54 PM
This thread is doomed. Save it.laugh

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Sat 01/19/08 02:00 PM
This thred regrets that it is too altruistic to save itself and is sorry that it had only one life to give to the forums.laugh

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Sat 01/19/08 02:11 PM
being altruistic expects nothing in return

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Sat 01/19/08 02:16 PM
So instead of having something for nothing one would have nothing for something or would that be the other way around?flowerforyou

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Sat 01/19/08 02:30 PM
French philosopher Auguste Comte coined the word altruisme (with meaning 3) in 1851, and two years later it entered the English language as altruism. Many considered his ethical system - in which the only moral acts were those intended to promote the happiness of others - rather extreme, so meaning 1 evolved. Now universal in evolutionary theory, meaning 2 was coined by scientists exploring how unselfish behaviour could have evolved. It is applied not only to people (psychological altruism), but also to animals and even plants.

Altruists choose to align their well-being with others - so they are happy when others thrive, sad when others are suffering. Essential in establishing strong relationships, most societies acknowledge the importance of altruism within the family. By motivating cooperation rather than conflict, it promotes harmony within communities of any size. Of course, peace within communities does not necessarily herald peace between communities, and the two may even be inversely related - witness for example, the way in which social strife tends to decrease within countries at war.

Altruists broaden their perspectives in an effort to overcome the artificial categories that break up the complex web of life. Altruism is the abdication of claims of power over others. To state that "None of us are worth more and none are worth less than anyone else" is almost a truism, but modern technology has given a new urgency to all such appeals for altruism. Life on earth is being destroyed at an alarming rate, and evidence is mounting of impending disasters such ecological collapse and climate change that threaten us all. Until a fundamental shift of consciousness occurs, such disasters can only get worse. Communications technology - and WWW in particular - is boosting altruism and establishing a global consciousness. It is encouraging to see how easily individual acts of altruism can have a global impact (e.g. Wikipedia, free software, or give away websites). In spite of massive investment by the corporate world, a mentality shift in the IT sphere is well underway from scarcity to abundance.

The most effective counter to the spread of altruism is the modern money system, since it is responsible for an unnatural transactional mentality. The inherent conflict in conventional money establishes zero-sum (competitive) relationships between people and organizations - so that those who help others necessarily disadvantage themselves. Such a system places a destructive overemphasis on self which erodes true society, fuelling consumerism and accompanying depression. Our main project is therefore to help develop an alternative to centralised money. If resistant to selfish attack, an internet-wide gift economy will act as a breeding ground for altruism. Many people would love a chance to ignore money and concentrate instead on helping others. A decentralised global gift economy system would do just that. By uniting altruists everywhere, coordinating local acts of altruism in a coherent fashion, the world could finally understand the power of getting back to our altruistic roots and escaping from Win-Lose thinking.

Everything that makes it possible and enjoyable to live is a free gift. For almost all of history, humans never saw the need to buy and sell things, or even to barter. Altruism is its own reward. Positive relationships with others have always been a more natural basis for self-esteem than either material objects or illusions about money or power over others.

Karen, I think you have a point.

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Sat 01/19/08 02:30 PM
wtf

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Sat 01/19/08 02:34 PM
I guess essentially one an altruistic person is just a do-gooder.

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Sat 01/19/08 02:36 PM
it's not about doing "good", it's about just doing

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Sat 01/19/08 02:44 PM
Hmmm, I am trying to understand the motivation for just doing then.

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Sat 01/19/08 02:45 PM
the motivation is one-self, nothing is done by materialistic means

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Sat 01/19/08 02:46 PM
your choice is happiness, not having money controlling oneself

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Sat 01/19/08 02:46 PM
Happiness is its own reward. I can live with that.flowerforyou

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Sat 01/19/08 02:48 PM
happiness is not only materialistic, so i make my choices from my heart, not from money or material things, if that makes sense, if it doesn't i'll have to write an eg.

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Sat 01/19/08 02:49 PM
That answers a question for me. I once was told that I have an immature desire to be happy. That seems like a more mature desire to be happy.:smile:

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Sat 01/19/08 02:50 PM
yes, no matter, they are right, money cannot buy happiness

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