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Topic: For those who believe...
daniel48706's photo
Tue 01/15/08 04:15 PM
For those of you who believe, that the Christian God, the father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, is the one and only true god, why did that God, proscribe unto Moses to write the following commandment (from the ten commandments)?



Exodus 34:14 (king James)

For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:


Our god has stated right here that we are not to worship any other god. How could he tell us to not worship another god, if there was no other god?


madigirl59's photo
Tue 01/15/08 04:16 PM
you have too much time on your hands.
ohwell

itsjustdave's photo
Tue 01/15/08 04:17 PM
weirdyawn

daniel48706's photo
Tue 01/15/08 04:20 PM

you have too much time on your hands.
ohwell


Oh I know of other contradictions, but my bible is packed up due to my last move, lol and I had to look this one up online. I am going to be doing a whole series of threads about the way the bible contradicts itself, and anyone else who can correctly quote the bible (any version will do although I will always use the king james as it is argued to be the closest translation) and show a possible contradiction is welcome to place that verse and contradiction in here.
Likewise, if you think you can explain it so it does not contradict, please try.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 01/15/08 04:20 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Tue 01/15/08 04:21 PM

For those of you who believe, that the Christian God, the father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, is the one and only true god, why did that God, proscribe unto Moses to write the following commandment (from the ten commandments)?



Exodus 34:14 (king James)

For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:


Our god has stated right here that we are not to worship any other god. How could he tell us to not worship another god, if there was no other god?


Dude,you do know that there are other religions,right ? Thats what it is referring to.

creativesoul's photo
Tue 01/15/08 04:20 PM
Because man is not allowed to be jealous... only 'God' is... in the Bible...

He has 'supreme diplomatic immunity'...:wink:

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 01/15/08 04:22 PM


you have too much time on your hands.
ohwell


Oh I know of other contradictions, but my bible is packed up due to my last move, lol and I had to look this one up online. I am going to be doing a whole series of threads about the way the bible contradicts itself, and anyone else who can correctly quote the bible (any version will do although I will always use the king james as it is argued to be the closest translation) and show a possible contradiction is welcome to place that verse and contradiction in here.
Likewise, if you think you can explain it so it does not contradict, please try.
There is no "closest translated" version of the bible.

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Tue 01/15/08 04:23 PM

Because man is not allowed to be jealous... only 'God' is... in the Bible...

He has 'supreme diplomatic immunity'...:wink:


roflmmfao.......drinker drinker drinker laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

creativesoul's photo
Tue 01/15/08 04:28 PM
Daniel:

That is the short answer for any question you have that considers contradiction concerning the hypocrisy in the extrapolations...

Save yourself some time...laugh

flowerforyou

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Tue 01/15/08 04:29 PM
HaY BROTHER I MYSELF AM A BELIVER AND IT SAYS DONT DO WHAT YOUR DOING....YOU WILL PAY FOR IT SOMEHOW....LOOKS LIKE GOD GIVE YOU A FAMILY BE HAPPY FOR THAT...IF YOU CONDEM HIM HE WILL DO THE SAME IN FRONT OF HIS FATHER........MIKE A BELIVER

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Tue 01/15/08 04:32 PM
Edited by nuenjins on Tue 01/15/08 04:35 PM
Alot actually does get lost in translation. if you spend too much time inspecting the springs, you'll never get around to jumping on the trampoline. Satisfy your curiosity and gain knowledge, but let the little so called "indescepancies" work out and have faith to grow.

Heck some people even claim "we" are gods (until you're hit by a bus). Worship plants and 'other' spirits. Take your pick

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Tue 01/15/08 04:33 PM
I'm not being disrespectful to the believers by posting this, but archaeological evidence indicates that the ancient Hebrews were originally polytheists. They eventually went to monolatry before becoming monotheists. Hope that helps.
drinker


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Tue 01/15/08 04:34 PM
This is the religions thread,. We all have a right to our opinions, and I am not stating that I am right So please, keep all comments within the parameters of the discussion, and remember the forum rules of not attacking others
Thank You.

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Tue 01/15/08 04:40 PM


For those of you who believe, that the Christian God, the father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, is the one and only true god, why did that God, proscribe unto Moses to write the following commandment (from the ten commandments)?



Exodus 34:14 (king James)

For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:


Our god has stated right here that we are not to worship any other god. How could he tell us to not worship another god, if there was no other god?


Dude,you do know that there are other religions,right ? Thats what it is referring to.


Thats my point brother. There are poeple out here who believe that our God is the ONLY god in existence, hence my question. If our God admits to toher gods being around, how can he be the only one?

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Tue 01/15/08 04:52 PM
Does your faith hinge on this? Cuz if it does it is a pretty petty gnat to strain at. God gives us common sense. That's why the Little'g' and not the big "G". Paul ran into a culture who had many gods and an alter to the unknown god. They reasoned with them tha this god they had a need for was the "TRUE" God.

False gods bro, fakey flavored.flowerforyou

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Tue 01/15/08 04:53 PM
This is from Isaac Asimov's Guide to the Bible (from his commentary on the book of Numbers):

In connection with the brief account of the victory of Sihon over Moab. a fragment of a victory ode exulting over the defeat of the Moabites is included. In part, it reads:

Numbers 22:29. Woe to thee, Moab! thou art undone, O people of Chemosh....

Chemosh was the national god of Moab and it was natural to speak of Moab, in those days of wide acceptance of local gods, as the "people of Chemosh."

Only a few thinkers in those primitive times recognized a universal God. Generally, the feeling was that each bit of land had its own god, and that over its own bit of land each god had godlike power. It was even felt that the god was tied to the land; that if one traveled elsewhere it became necessary to worship the god of that land unless one carried his own god. Thus when Rachel left the house of her father Laban, she took Laban's idols with her:

Genesis 31:19. ....and Rachel had stolen the images that were her father's.

and Laban was more distressed at this than at the loss of his daughters ad the goods and cattle that Jacob had carried off:

Genesis 31:30. ....though thou wouldest needs be gone....wherefore hast thou stolen my gods?

In the religious thought of that day, there was no necessary feeling of antagonism toward the gods of other tribes, provided no actual war was going on and the enemy was not calling upon his god for help in your destruction (as you were calling upon yours for help in his destruction). The situation might be much the same as in our own feelings for the flags of foreigh nations. If we are at peace with a foreign nation, international usage requires that we treat its flag with decent respect even in our own land. It would be even more a matter of elementary courtesy to treat the flag of a foreign nation with respect while inside the borders of that nation.

In later times, however, as a consciousness of the universality of Yahveh grew among the Israelites, and as the feeling deepened that there was only one God, not only for the Israelites but for all the world -- that there was only one God -- the attitude of the Yahvists toward the gods of other tribes hardened. The foreign gods were not only potential enemies, they were no gods at all. At most, they were demons who imposed their worship on the ignorant, unenlightened, or wicked. As a result, when Chemosh was referred to in later books of the Bible, it was as something shameful:

1 Kings 11:7 ....Chemosh, the abomination of Moab....




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Tue 01/15/08 04:55 PM
nuenjins, dont you read ur email??? grumble grumble

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Tue 01/15/08 05:00 PM

Thats my point brother. There are poeple out here who believe that our God is the ONLY god in existence, hence my question. If our God admits to toher gods being around, how can he be the only one?


What is a god? A "god" is an object of worship. Jews were henotheistic in a way. They accepted that one could worship the nature or money or women or oneself. But the distinction is made throughout the Bible that God is the living God. The appearant contrast that is to be made is that all other gods are not living. They are created things, which were made by hands and minds. God is uncreated and living. If you think that there is a pantheon of gods and that God is just one of them or even the greatest of them, you need to return to your Bible.

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Tue 01/15/08 05:00 PM
God is what we make of him/her, and a god can be anything that you worship more than yourself, and it does not have to be religious, it could be a partner or money.

If we put "god" before everything else, things are supposed to turn out better, if we put others or things before us, other than god, we risk letting evil in.


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Tue 01/15/08 05:03 PM

nuenjins, dont you read ur email??? grumble grumble


I just reactivated my account after my vacation slash layoff, plus I'm single again, so here I is. I discovered that women don't like help these days. They want a man like they do a puppy.

Hi Winn

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