So this is a brutal slap in the face to me personally. My opinion which is mine only is to execute them. They would give us no quarter. They are evil and ruthless. They are an enemy.

if washington would wake their a------up, 80% of these problems would be allimminated...............hmmmmmmm....they didn't hesitate to fire upon kent state did they?

I mean no insult here but intelligence causes much more intelligent results. I expect us to be intelligent adults or so I thought we were

i hear you Kyle....i am with you man
and i understand your outrage

hmmmmmmmmmmm...........lot of folks missed the boat..........intelligence to me is to out smart the one coming after you......................i'm done with this topic.........

no, they did not hesitate at Kent State

it's time for serious change

Graffiti was an example.

Notice, I said whatever they hold dear.

They defaced something we hold dear, so we deface something they hold dear.

That's my solution.

I thought it would be understandable, but perhaps heads are too steamed up.

If it can't be discussed in a civilized manner, why continue?

Done.

Intellegence goes out the window when you're being shot at whether it be in combat or a bad neighborhood. That's when survival instincts kick in.

to that, i say you're naive. these gang members did not come up for a better future or to better themselves. we are dealing with the scum of the earth.

some people just won't listen to rationality and civility. like animals, pain and suffering is all they understand.

not to say that all are beyond redemption. in fact if you'd read wiki...

"On May 13, 2006, Ernesto "Smokey" Miranda was murdered at his home in El Salvador, a few hours after declining to attend a party for a gang member who had just been released from prison. He had begun studying law and working to keep kids out of gangs. He was an Ex- high ranking soldier and founder of the MS gang"

these people are not the cream of the crop

Defacing a monument is not gun shots so not relative.

Ms13 are bad. Hope they don't come to a neighborhood near you. Done.

good answer longhair...............wake up these young people, someone needs to...........

We have a whole slew of undesireables in this country. Illegals are a small portion of these. Personally racists are the worse for me, any kind and I could resort to an immature state and say they should all be dropped to the bottom of the sea but that would not solve anything as it is not even an intelligent thought.

You're not getting the point. They are ruthless killers. The bullethole in my leg and stomach are relative.

please don't generalize in such a way. yes illegals are criminals since they broke the law to get into this country and currently fail to pay taxes. no they are not all murdering thugs.

people in ms13 are trash


oh i see, you're from denver. you don't get much of this crap in that area do ya? well let me tell you, from someone who just recently had guns pull on him by a bunch of gang members, these people are filling our nation and are not here for it's betterment. "these people" being gang members, not all mexicans. please quit being so racist. yes, you are being racist. since you were the one to bring it there

ms13 shot you?

As I said I hope they don't come to a neighborhood near you. Your safety will be in jeapordy. They are killers.

I agree, Dragoness.

They defaced a monument, but I suspect if we started shooting at them as some suggest, they would likely do the same to us, and then the situation would devolve into a war.

Funny how that works, eh?

Maybe they did it for the national exposure, and we gave them exactly what they wanted. Shall we continue to let them have even further time in the spotlight? They're probably grinning somewhere over it. Let's laugh at them instead.

Come on people, keep it cool in here. I know this is a touchy subject, and i do agree something should be done about gang violence. Some of you have made good points in this thread, it is a good debate and well worthy of discussion, please do remember though, to discuss this without personal attacks. I know many of you, and i know you can do this. Please keep it civil,
Mark

i'm glad you returned. i have a question. eye for an eye, what would you suppose they care about?