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Topic: Your feelings on Import Tariffs?
SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž's photo
Sun 07/13/25 04:07 AM
How do you Americans feel about Trump's import tariffs?
Just curious whether or not this move has the overall support of the American people.

Personally I find it a very dangerous move. I don't necessarily mean economically.
But because it divides people and countries, and raises animosity and hostility.
With that it can very easily create a breeding ground for war as it will set up countries against one another, and against the US.
What will Trump do then? Send his overwhelming military force? Nuke countries?
This could very easily escalate into very nasty scenarios as he demands the entire world to bow down to the US.
Which is not going to happen.
Even I feel like FU!!
And I'm a loving person who doesn't busy herself with politics or economics at all.

I also feel this is a move to obtaining world power. If that happens it'll drag us back into the dark ages at the speed of light.

I've felt for decades that it could very well be that in the end Russia is the only one that can save us. From the US.
Problem being that the few others who will then join in aren't friends of the western world (I mean EU, AUS, UK with that, not US).

Let's hope it's not going to come to any of that.
Just when we're on the brink of moving into a new world based on love and oneness.
Unbelievable that one single man can take so much power and get away with it.

Bart's photo
Sun 07/13/25 04:27 AM
Edited by Bart on Sun 07/13/25 05:17 AM

How do you Americans feel about Trump's import tariffs?
Just curious whether or not this move has the overall support of the American people.

Personally I find it a very dangerous move. I don't necessarily mean economically.
But because it divides people and countries, and raises animosity and hostility.
With that it can very easily create a breeding ground for war as it will set up countries against one another, and against the US.
What will Trump do then? Send his overwhelming military force? Nuke countries?
This could very easily escalate into very nasty scenarios as he demands the entire world to bow down to the US.
Which is not going to happen.
Even I feel like FU!!
And I'm a loving person who doesn't busy herself with politics or economics at all.

I also feel this is a move to obtaining world power. If that happens it'll drag us back into the dark ages at the speed of light.

I've felt for decades that it could very well be that in the end Russia is the only one that can save us. From the US.
Problem being that the few others who will then join in aren't friends of the western world (I mean EU, AUS, UK with that, not US).

Let's hope it's not going to come to any of that.
Just when we're on the brink of moving into a new world based on love and oneness.
Unbelievable that one single man can take so much power and get away with it.


Yes, people with a understanding of fairness support Trumps tariffs deals. We have been getting ripped off for years, no more w/Trump.. We just saw Trump force more countrys to pay more for their dues in NATO.. which means better defense against Russia or others. your senario of the future has no merit of truth. Just a far out dillusion.
All the nieghsayers like you that were claiming doom and gloom w/tariffs are now being proved wrong. 1 billion collected in duties from other countries so far. Thatโ€™s the most ever. If itโ€™s good for America itโ€™s good for the rest of the worldโ€ฆ

soufiehere's photo
Sun 07/13/25 10:39 AM
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Unbelievable that one single man can take so much power and get away with it.

You nailed it.
NO one trusts the felon and the grab for power
is real.

One always suspects that whatever he does, it
benefits his business empire.

Hopefully the damage he does can be overturned
when he leaves.

Bart's photo
Sun 07/13/25 02:21 PM

...
Unbelievable that one single man can take so much power and get away with it.

You nailed it.
NO one trusts the felon and the grab for power
is real.

One always suspects that whatever he does, it
benefits his business empire.

Hopefully the damage he does can be overturned
when he leaves.

What damage? Stopping wars, getting millions of illegals out of our country and out of the tax payers pockets. More jobs for folks, more money in their pockets. Improvements in education because of non public schoolsโ€ฆ please elaborate on the โ€˜ damageโ€™ .. . LOL

Flatline's photo
Sun 07/13/25 09:11 PM
Edited by Flatline on Sun 07/13/25 09:11 PM
All countries in the NATO Alliance pay for the operations of the NATO offices.
What Trump has done is ensure that ALL Members spend at least 2% of the countries GDP on their Military.

With the Import Duties you claim other countries pay, your dead wrong.
The Tariff is an import tax, yes, but it is paid by the importer and passed along to the consumer.
That the Tariff does to the countries that they are applied to is force them to renegotiate a trade deal to Trump's liking.
The exporter does not pay the Tariff, you the purchaser pay for that Tariff. ( look it up if you have to )
How Does Trump think that other countries are " Ripping Off The US"?
His team negotiated with Mexico and Canada and he said it was the Greatest Deal Ever, but now its Ripping Off The US!
All countries negotiate in good faith so that trade deals are fair for everyone.
I still can't fathom the fact that Trump put a Tariff on an Island that is inhabited by Penguins!!
Is that your "Genius" at work Mr. Trump??

What was it that happened that made the US not so great anymore that Trump had to steal the phrase from a previous president? Please explain...

SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž's photo
Mon 07/14/25 04:39 AM


...
Unbelievable that one single man can take so much power and get away with it.

You nailed it.
NO one trusts the felon and the grab for power
is real.

One always suspects that whatever he does, it
benefits his business empire.

Hopefully the damage he does can be overturned
when he leaves.

What damage? Stopping wars, getting millions of illegals out of our country and out of the tax payers pockets. More jobs for folks, more money in their pockets. Improvements in education because of non public schoolsโ€ฆ please elaborate on the โ€˜ damageโ€™ .. . LOL

Stopping wars??
The US usually starts them, directly or indirectly.
The one in Ukraine is one of them.
That war is having a devastating effect on EU countries as we all have to offer refuge to hundreds of thousands Ukraine refugees. Now these are all good people, but it still costs money, space, healthcare etc. etc.
Plus the huge risk of it escalating, which will cost all EU countries dearly. Thank you US.

That's just one war.

As for the alleged benefit to your country right now... wait how it's going to pan out. I wouldn't be hopeful.
Chances are that the US will become an island.
That's basically what he wants. Produce your own stuff, and considering his policy I doubt other countries are going to be open to allowing the overflow in. So where are you going to go with your produce?
Dump it in Africa like was done with American GM grain in a country where people were starving and had no choice but to accept the disastrous grain?

Wanna produce your own chit? Knock yourself out. But flog it on US soil as well.
Like I said, my idea is: FU!

It's going to create havoc, in and outside the US. Who is better off remains to be seen.
Fact remains that it is an incredibly daft move.
If big companies find other outlets and countries to work with, what will you be left with? Nothing. Poverty.




SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž's photo
Mon 07/14/25 04:43 AM

...
Unbelievable that one single man can take so much power and get away with it.

You nailed it.
NO one trusts the felon and the grab for power
is real.

One always suspects that whatever he does, it
benefits his business empire.

Hopefully the damage he does can be overturned
when he leaves.

Very clear. Thank you for that feedback.
Are there many with this view that you know of or is that more from a minority?

I too hope that it can be overturned and the damage restored.
Should be possible, he overturned much of what Obama had implemented as well.
Unfortunately he will be in office for another 3 years...

Bart's photo
Mon 07/14/25 05:13 AM
Hard to accept that people can be so uninformed to what is really happening here in the US, Trump is doing a great job for America and increasing the defense funds for NATO to 5% , mostly for the benefit of you unappreciative Europeans. Doesnโ€™t sound like a president that starts wars. I know you hate Trump but he may be your continents best friend.And what damage has he done ? None , thatโ€™s just another one liner ment to defame Trump. Not valid, just BS..

Bart's photo
Mon 07/14/25 05:22 AM

All countries in the NATO Alliance pay for the operations of the NATO offices.
What Trump has done is ensure that ALL Members spend at least 2% of the countries GDP on their Military.

With the Import Duties you claim other countries pay, your dead wrong.
The Tariff is an import tax, yes, but it is paid by the importer and passed along to the consumer.
That the Tariff does to the countries that they are applied to is force them to renegotiate a trade deal to Trump's liking.
The exporter does not pay the Tariff, you the purchaser pay for that Tariff. ( look it up if you have to )
How Does Trump think that other countries are " Ripping Off The US"?
His team negotiated with Mexico and Canada and he said it was the Greatest Deal Ever, but now its Ripping Off The US!
All countries negotiate in good faith so that trade deals are fair for everyone.
I still can't fathom the fact that Trump put a Tariff on an Island that is inhabited by Penguins!!
Is that your "Genius" at work Mr. Trump??

What was it that happened that made the US not so great anymore that Trump had to steal the phrase from a previous president? Please explain...

The US is the biggest importer and the biggest exporter in the world. We buy and sell so much from all over that most countries will do what ever they can to keep trading with the US. Do you think Canada can fulfill the needs of the world like the US can.. get real..Trump asks for recepical tariffs that means for example 10% for 10%. Nothing unfair about that.

Toodygirl5's photo
Mon 07/14/25 08:02 AM
I was talking with my Man Friend who owns his own Cafe and he is originally from another Country.

I was saying that Many Countries have been getting away with not paying to USA what is a far Tariffs and what Trump is doing maybe in access but a increase has been way overdue for Decades.

Many People are Trump haters in USA they are dire democrats and could care less about agree with his actions.

Many Countries have problems of all kinds themselves and should be Concerned about their Own Countries.

USA will be the Last to Crash, if at all.

SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž's photo
Mon 07/14/25 09:06 AM
I don't mean to offend you, but you really have tunnel vision.
I won't hold it against you as I know many Americans live as if they're the only country in the world or, if they're aware there are other countries, that these are inferior & the US' servants.
But then you forget that we are all connected, we don't live on separate islands anymore.
Many glorify the US and don't even know that many other western countries are way more advanced in areas than the US is.
In many of these areas the US is more like a 3rd world country.
I don't mean that as a dig. Just to give a different perspective.

Other countries should most certainly be concerned about this as it will affect them too.

It's not for nothing that some fear another global stock market crash by what Trump has done.
If that happens it'll affect the US as well. After all GLOBAL means the entire world.
The same goes for Trumps decision. It will also have a global effect.


SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž's photo
Mon 07/14/25 09:22 AM
One example of how this is going to affect both people in and outside of the US:

I know a man who owns a own business in selling crystal skulls. He has these carved by Brazilian master carvers from top quality Brazilian quartzes.

80% of his customers are Americans.
But from August onwards Americans will have to cough up 50% import tariff on BOTH the skull they want AND the shipping.
That means Americans either will have to pay a freaking fortune to buy what they love or... no longer able to get it at all.
Thank you Trump!

The business owner will likely get in trouble as he will see most of his sales drop.

The carvers might be out of a job and means to live and feed their families.
Thank you Trump!

It could even result in the business owner being forced to move back to The Netherlands after having lived in Brazil for decades. Then he won't be able to do the work he loves doing.

Trump's idea is that things will be made in the US itself.
There are no Brazilian master carvers in the US.
Nor is there top quality Brazilian Quartz in the US.

So a totally effed up situation.
And this is just one small business.
Hundreds of thousands are going to suffer, small companies & big ones.

Millions outside the US may lose their jobs, their homes, and so on.
Americans may not give a toss about that, but if that happens it will come back and bite you in the a$$ when the stock-market crashes.

The only ones who won't suffer are the rich & famous in the US and Trump himself will sure as heck make sure he isn't going to suffer.

And this whole "the US has been ripped off for years" is part of an elaborate plan to gain more power.
As it is, the US has way too much power.
That could be remedied, but then it will be the people who will suffer, not the ones who are behind this scheme.

It's absolutely scary that one man can do this by declaring some illusive state of emergency that grants him the sole power to do so.


Toodygirl5's photo
Mon 07/14/25 10:23 AM
You do not offend me, I know more than most posting about America on this Political forum. unfortunately, many people are still living delusional. There has always been Wars and USA has helped to fight in Some.


Other Counties have their Own problems and many of them will Never stop fighting.

America will protect its Own.


When we had a President that was Incompetent from the beginning of his term. Shows what kind of criminals were in charge.


That ended and USA is moving on.



Flatline's photo
Mon 07/14/25 04:31 PM

You do not offend me, I know more than most posting about America on this Political forum. unfortunately, many people are still living delusional. There has always been Wars and USA has helped to fight in Some.


Other Counties have their Own problems and many of them will Never stop fighting.

America will protect its Own.


When we had a President that was Incompetent from the beginning of his term. Shows what kind of criminals were in charge.


That ended and USA is moving on.




You have a man in the white house with 34 felony convictions and a conviction for sexual assault.
Who were the previous criminals in the white house?
Were they convicted before they were voted in?
Have they been convicted since leaving office?
As for Tariffs, you the end purchaser pay that cost.laugh

Bart's photo
Mon 07/14/25 04:56 PM

One example of how this is going to affect both people in and outside of the US:

I know a man who owns a own business in selling crystal skulls. He has these carved by Brazilian master carvers from top quality Brazilian quartzes.

80% of his customers are Americans.
But from August onwards Americans will have to cough up 50% import tariff on BOTH the skull they want AND the shipping.
That means Americans either will have to pay a freaking fortune to buy what they love or... no longer able to get it at all.
Thank you Trump!

The business owner will likely get in trouble as he will see most of his sales drop.

The carvers might be out of a job and means to live and feed their families.
Thank you Trump!

It could even result in the business owner being forced to move back to The Netherlands after having lived in Brazil for decades. Then he won't be able to do the work he loves doing.

Trump's idea is that things will be made in the US itself.
There are no Brazilian master carvers in the US.
Nor is there top quality Brazilian Quartz in the US.

So a totally effed up situation.
And this is just one small business.
Hundreds of thousands are going to suffer, small companies & big ones.

Millions outside the US may lose their jobs, their homes, and so on.
Americans may not give a toss about that, but if that happens it will come back and bite you in the a$$ when the stock-market crashes.

The only ones who won't suffer are the rich & famous in the US and Trump himself will sure as heck make sure he isn't going to suffer.

And this whole "the US has been ripped off for years" is part of an elaborate plan to gain more power.
As it is, the US has way too much power.
That could be remedied, but then it will be the people who will suffer, not the ones who are behind this scheme.

It's absolutely scary that one man can do this by declaring some illusive state of emergency that grants him the sole power to do so.



Everything you suggest will happen is happening just the opposite. The stock market is up , the prices are lower, more folks working , wages up, lower taxes, manufacturing coming back the dollar is strong again, and the people bleeding our welfare system is on their way out. Heโ€™s making America great again. Maybe the rest of the world should quit depending on the US so much and try to make your country great again, if it ever was.

Bart's photo
Mon 07/14/25 05:05 PM

All countries in the NATO Alliance pay for the operations of the NATO offices.
What Trump has done is ensure that ALL Members spend at least 2% of the countries GDP on their Military.

With the Import Duties you claim other countries pay, your dead wrong.
The Tariff is an import tax, yes, but it is paid by the importer and passed along to the consumer.
That the Tariff does to the countries that they are applied to is force them to renegotiate a trade deal to Trump's liking.
The exporter does not pay the Tariff, you the purchaser pay for that Tariff. ( look it up if you have to )
How Does Trump think that other countries are " Ripping Off The US"?
His team negotiated with Mexico and Canada and he said it was the Greatest Deal Ever, but now its Ripping Off The US!
All countries negotiate in good faith so that trade deals are fair for everyone.
I still can't fathom the fact that Trump put a Tariff on an Island that is inhabited by Penguins!!
Is that your "Genius" at work Mr. Trump??

What was it that happened that made the US not so great anymore that Trump had to steal the phrase from a previous president? Please explain...

Over $100.000,000,000 collect in tariffs for the US. From others paying for our exports. That is considered customs fees or tariffs. .. and the reason Trump uses MAGA is because of the Democrats and their america last agenda .

Flatline's photo
Mon 07/14/25 07:43 PM
Here is an example of how the US is RIPPING OFF Canada.
Canada exports 4.3million barrels of oil daily at $20.00 below market value.
That's $8.6 million a day, now multiply that by 365 days in the year and you come up with $31.39 Billion a year.
So who is ripping off who?
Before you answer look up the facts yourself before blowing smoke.
Who was there for the US when 9/11 happened?
Who pulled US citizens out of Iran when the Iranian's over ran the US Consulate?
Canada has always negotiated in good faith.
Check facts before answering instead of just the lies out of Trump's mouth. (proven to lie to the people)

Brian Johnson's photo
Mon 07/14/25 07:44 PM
Hi

Flatline's photo
Mon 07/14/25 07:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sprumo3QrtE

Bart's photo
Tue 07/15/25 03:07 AM

Here is an example of how the US is RIPPING OFF Canada.
Canada exports 4.3million barrels of oil daily at $20.00 below market value.
That's $8.6 million a day, now multiply that by 365 days in the year and you come up with $31.39 Billion a year.
So who is ripping off who?
Before you answer look up the facts yourself before blowing smoke.
Who was there for the US when 9/11 happened?
Who pulled US citizens out of Iran when the Iranian's over ran the US Consulate?
Canada has always negotiated in good faith.
Check facts before answering instead of just the lies out of Trump's mouth. (proven to lie to the people)

Sounds like Canada is screwing themselves, not much of a negotiator. Trump makes a deal that benifits america. That is what a president is supposed to do for his country. Not Americas fault for others to make a bad deal for themselves..Canada elected a woke liberal in Treaudo. He started all the controversy with the US..

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