With all due respect Spider, you're the one who always seems to want to make everything personal.

There were no personal judgments made here.

Just a little light-hearted ribbing.

Lighten up for God's sake.

Why do you have to take everything so seriously all the time?

I didn't see spider and thought or shall I say assumed that was for me...since I have been battling with creative. I'm sorry spider......

Feral didn't take it as "light-hearted ribbing". It wasn't intended as that either. CreativeSoul has admitted that he was out of line with the comment (but has yet to actually apologize...). So I think you are on the wrong side of the situation. So if you want to go on record supporting the use of this kind of comment, that's your business. But it will surely come back to bite you.

feral:

Do you even listen to yourself?

You just said...

" Thats not judging you......you started that lil bit...and I came back with my answer of debate me on any scripture and I will prove you wrong.....for yes the simple fact that the Lord leads me......And who are you to say otherwise..."


>>>>>>> A few things here feral...

1.) I started that 'lil bit' by not agreeing with your posted proof(s)... NOT by judging you as a result of the difference.

2.) You saying that 'the simple fact that the Lord leads me' is in and of itself a judgement which implies that my conclusions are not as divinely inspired as your own...

AS if you are lead... and I am not... THAT is judgemental

3.) THEN you have the audacity and self-righteousness IN THE VERY NEXT BREATH to ask me who I am to say otherwise? You just contradicted your own reasoning. Are you that blind to your own judgements? <<<<<<<







You further stated:

" And yes I do feel your now the wolf in sheeps clothing.....and I am entitled to my opinion.....just like you..."

>>>>>>> That was a wrongful judgement of intention and character long before I responded in unison to your judgemental nature. <<<<<<<








Again:

"...because as I have not changed on anything in the threads you have....Yes you gave your opinions but stayed very neutral with it....then all the sudden you came out like Im not sure what......which is fine...but call a spade a spade here......I have not changed. I have remained the same throughout....."

>>>>>>> You are absolutely correct, you have ALWAYS been judgemental, and I have not. However, your judgemental nature only got under my skin this time, because I allowed it to. <<<<<<<










Some more:

"And you think I will drop you making that sex statement.....not on your life....because I know that I do be careful and I would never do anything to shame myself or My Lord......And yes I take great offense to it......Im a married woman and I take that very serious.....as for you saying it.....It's not that I care what you think......it was plain and simple deflamatory to who I am.....and I think you owe me an apology for that. "

>>>>>>> 1.) You may not drop it feral, but I will attempt to...

2.) If you did not learn your lesson of kicking this dog, you WILL should you press this issue.

3.) I did not lie.

4.) You DO NOT want to push this feral.

5.) You think I owe you an apology?

6.) Feral, the ONLY reason that I have not highlighted your hypocrisy up until this point is because it is not natural for me to make another look bad for the sake of them looking bad.

7.) Quit poking this dog feral...<<<<<<<



EDIT:

I posted this in a different thread... but it applies here...

" I have indeed fallen short on occasion... especially after a character assassination...

Unfortunately, a mirrored response by me merely justifies their false claim, fueling the unfounded judgement's growth.

I do another no justice by using a measure which justifies their own inner judgemental nature. It actually perpetuates another's continued false judgements by validating their ego."



I did you no justice by mimicking your behaviours...



That is the extent of my apology...

Actually yes and I back up everything I have ever said to you creative. How in the world is debating you on scripture and the Lord leading me judging you in the least?

You don't ever ever have to agree with me on anything.....And you bashed me and said that I had nothing to add to the thread.....when I posted all that was needed to see when the bible was written and you bashed me there....Then artgurl n decided a gang up was needed...I wasn't at all putting her down for what she posted......I just stated imo I thought it was odd.......now last time I checked this is America and I am entitled to my opinions....and again opinions are not judgements.....

And me saying I'm lead by the Lord in no way implies that you ARE NOT......I don't know your relationship with the Lord now do I. Get your facts straight I neither judged nor implied anything.......

How honestly would I know if your led..It's not my business it's yours....

And when I said......yes who are you to say otherwise....which is correct as you have no clue to my relationship with Father God either (correct)

And if you want to think I am a wolf in sheeps clothing again your choice as it was mine to think of you as such..

Interesting that you keep coming back to using that judgemental word to describe me......which is so not true......but hey if you want to believe that again your choice....and it's a free country.....But to me....I am a strong woman with strong beliefs.....and I will also not be pushed around or let anyone say lies about me.

And if your referring to any of the sex advice ones......bring it on I am not ashamed and I gave good sound advice as a married woman. And your scare tactics won't work with me......You just do whatever you want.....Because I have never been involved in anything that I am ashamed of.


And as I think Spider so beautifully put it......Christians also have sex........ohhhhhhhhh no.......and I happen to be very libral about it....but I assure you there is nothing that would offend either my husband or God......So your threats are lame to me.

And who is judging who there.......hmmmmmmm I would say you are....and then to think you could threaten me with it....Are you new or just stupid....And yes creative the last statement is a judgement.

I feel no need to repeat myself...

I do not threaten...

If you can live with your choices then so be it...

The terrorists thought they were divinely inspired also...

So, it says nothing about one's character...

Keep on judging feral... it suits you.

Your dish does not taste very good does it?

Too bad you have learned nothing as a result.

Flawless indeed some are in their own eyes...

You have a Bible-sized log in your eye feral... you may want to go remove it...

It read like a threat to me......And yes I do live by my choices very well thank you......And again who is judging.....Your lies are the only thing that leave a bitter taste creative.....And again with what you have just posted.....you ought to practice what you preach......I know I will sleep soundly....can you say the same..

We each speak of that which lives within us...

No matter if we like it or not...

No matter if we agree with it or not...

Reality is perception...

Yours was based on assumption... and still is...

Mine was based on your words... and still is

you just think that way sweets......and live happily ever after with yourself.

sighhhhhhh............



Kat

Hi Kat how are ya? 4-u

None of my beliefs have changed feral ... and they have been presented ... consistently ... in the threads from when my time began here.

Hi baby gurl....

Kat

And feral says:

******* No not at all.....It's just that I have seen alot of you all the sudden change what you believe....or don't believe...and that just confuses me.....If anyone asked what does feral believe...everyone would be able to say exactly what it is I believe. But with some of you it's so wishy washy....that yea it confusing....And I don't presume to know anybody until I do *******

To which I say...

What confuses judgemental people who do not admit their nature, is when their assumptions are proven unsubstantiated and they are left with one of two things...

1.) Either admitting their assumptive nature to themself

or

2.) Claiming another's change in beliefs


Now if one should choose number 2... That again is a false and unsubstantiated assumptive judgement which perpetuates the fraudulant nature of an assumptive person...

A vicious cycle indeed... while ignoring their own flaws in judgement... because the Lord leads them, none-the-less.

Oh yeah... Is wishy-washy a judgement?

Scuze me? Gang up?


That is a nicely fabricated notion feral...I was merely referring to your only two comments regarding me in the threads ... the first of which accused me of being Abra's only minion ... and while he is a wonderful man ... your comment was meant to be and was derogatory....

I'd say that was pretty judgmental ... considering we had no prior interaction.

As for creative...he is quite capable of defending his own position. He has,however, remained remarkably calm given all the judgment that has been thrown at him ...

I see no attack here by me or creative ... so you can just leave me out of your nonsense.

I suppose that sometimes we don't like the mirror's reflection huh?...

(((Kat)))

Well now I know why, even though I am a believer, I stay out of religion threads. LOL

If you all proclaim Christ, why are you bickering among yourselves? That's so sad to see when others are watching dontcha think? No wonder the 'world' wants nothing to do with those who are supposed to have the love of God ruling their lives. *sigh*

Bottom line .. I know Deb well. And she lives her faith. She certainly has with me. I love her to death and whether she is perfect or not is not relative, but her heart holds her true to her love for Christ.

Enough said. Have a good evening. I'm gonna go play where people aren't throwing sand in the sandbox. You know they say you can't throw well if you have boulders clouding your vision.

God bless us every one.

No one throwing sand here...

Feral has been backhandedly rude on many an occasion...

Without cause...

Some others are tired of it, myself included...

I have quoted her and shown why...

She has assumed, and therefore cannot back her claims... except with her own opinion... which is unsubstantiated...

The truth cannot lead one to a false conclusion...

What feral has said is indeed false...

hmmmmmmmmmm could it be that "feral" has called others on their sh*t & that's ruffled a few feathers. Nah, that would make the others imperfect as well.

I just shake my head & hope to God that none of this nonsense is on the other side (heaven that is).

*rolls eyes and sighs* Happy Hanging ..