Do you know that?

Pass beyond self-refuting arguments, before you criticize another on logic.

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred . . . let me sow love
Where there is injury . . . pardon
Where there is doubt . . . faith
Where there is despair . . .hope
Where there is darkness . . . light
Where there is sadness . . .joy
Divine Master,
grant that i may not so much seek
To be consoled . . .as to console
To be understood . . .as to understand,
To be loved . . . as to love
For it is in giving . . .that we receive,
It is in pardoning, that we are pardoned,
It is in dying . . .that we are born to eternal life
St Francis Prayers

Absent information equals spider filling in all the blanks for us... illogically, I might add.

We do know that!

Aren't there any cars on that highway that you play in?

Oh come on ArtGurl, your showing Catholic roots - we all know there are no real saints - just good poets.

uh huh


No Catholic roots here ... but perhaps some Christians might appreciate the sentiment ...


such contradictory behaviour ...

ArtGurl


Perhaps life is contradictory! Perhaps we are part of some huge matrix, in which we first imagine our lives and then we get a change to try to live it and avoid the errors?

Perhaps some of us are in another reality altogether!

Either way, that would account for much of the contradiction.
wouldn't it? What thread is this again?

I have to remember not to post this, next time around. It's totally contradictory.

I was a lil thrown by it from you artgurl.....

But I have always found it a lil odd to pray to the Virgin Mary.......or other saints........And I wonder if that is not worshipping false idols when they have statues of them all over.......hmmmmmm will have to think about that one.

feral,

Of course you were thrown... it is because you pass unsubstantiated judgements quite often.

Go play in the sex threads some more...

Feral doesn't play in the sex threads does she?

I don't get out much so I wouldn't know.

Christians have sex, enjoy sex and yes, sometimes talk about sex. Should a Christian woman be in the sex forums on JustSayHi? That's between her and God and has nothing to do with you. Why do you guys have to make things personal, can't we discuss religion without acting like schoolchildren?

spider:

I did not make it personal...

I just followed the lead.

I am usually very, very mellow...

Sometimes I just cannot help it...

I have been known to beat some a** after I have been harrassed long enough...

It just takes a while...

If one keeps kickin a dog, one will get bit.

Why is that feral? Perhaps because you seem to have decided who I am and what I believe without a single conversation with me ... ?

Amen to that Artsy!!!

living, breathing paradox

No not at all.....It's just that I have seen alot of you all the sudden change what you believe....or don't believe...and that just confuses me.....If anyone asked what does feral believe...everyone would be able to say exactly what it is I believe. But with some of you it's so wishy washy....that yea it confusing....And I don't presume to know anybody until I do....including you ArtGurl.....Maybe you should post on my Do Tell!!!! thread so I will know exactly what it is you believe.

I really don't think that is true at all......and look who all the sudden went from a non-judgemental human being, to a nasty opinionated person. And I don't play in the sex threads......I am in religion, poetry and a few others......so take your self rightous attitude somewhere else. I don't do anything here or in real life that I am ashamed of......

feral,

I do not have a self-righteous attitude...

I am who I am as a result of my own internalizations as are you.

After your continual sarcastic remarks and assumptive natured statements over the past several months, you have demonstrated yourself to be that which you have accused me of.

A classic case of dishing out that which you cannot take.

How many judgements have you passed onto me feral?

Quit assuming you know me because you do not. Do you really believe that I have suddenly 'changed'... I am afraid not. Suddenly your perception of me changed. Because you had assumed too much before. Just because someone does not hold your belief within them does not make them a candidate for your judgement.

Have you heard me once claim that God leads me to my conclusions?

You have...

And your conclusions were wrong... So...

Was it God leading feral... or feral leading her God?

Eat of your dish, and ask how it tastes...

Your kidding right......When have I ever judged you.....I honestly don't know you creative and thats ok....All I have seen is you go from a peaceful participant to not....I creative have not changed in how I present myself ever. Quit presuming that I want to know you......and you know creative that I have always said people can believe whatever they want.....I am no-ones judge. And I have always made that very very clear.....And who is judging who by taking the time to see where I post.....Frankly it's none of your business and I don't do anything that I would have any reason to be ashamed of ever........And what did it accomplish exactly for you to lie and say go back feral and chat in the sex threads.......wth

I promise you sweets.....you could debate me on any scripture and I will prove you wrong always......For the simple fact that the Lord leads me to do so........

I thought so to of creative......but now I feel a wolf in sheeps clothing so to speak.


>>>>>>> If 'the Lord' led you to the first or second conclusion, he lied.

Just the fact that you said the second statement above proves your judgemental nature feral...

You really do not want to push the sex thread issue, it was uncalled for, however, that alone does not conclude whether or not it was a truthful statement... I admitted the unecessary nature of it... leave it be, and I will also...

I suggest you quit calling me a liar though... know what I mean?<<<<<<<

Thats not judging you......you started that lil bit...and I came back with my answer of debate me on any scripture and I will prove you wrong.....for yes the simple fact that the Lord leads me......And who are you to say otherwise......And yes I do feel your now the wolf in sheeps clothing.....and I am entitled to my opinion.....just like you...If that is not a correct assumption then you show me otherwise....because as I have not changed on anything in the threads you have....Yes you gave your opinions but stayed very neutral with it....then all the sudden you came out like Im not sure what......which is fine...but call a spade a spade here......I have not changed. I have remained the same throughout.....

And you think I will drop you making that sex statement.....not on your life....because I know that I do be careful and I would never do anything to shame myself or My Lord......And yes I take great offense to it......Im a married woman and I take that very serious.....as for you saying it.....It's not that I care what you think......it was plain and simple deflamatory to who I am.....and I think you owe me an apology for that.

And I would of liked to of kept this in privae e-mail but since your criteria allows me not.....