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Topic: my thoughts on women...
charismatic's photo
Fri 12/28/07 08:25 PM
Most men believe women only seek guys that are handsome, tall,
rich and famous - and by believing into this B.S. they effectively close any opportunities for themselves.Russian women are essentially looking for: Men who are intelligent, kind, financially secure,
marriage-minded, faithful, honest, physically fit, decent-looking, have a sense of humor, and don't abuse alcohol. You see, those are all personality traits, and you have the solitary CONTROL over them.But that's just part of the picture.

The things above are what Russian women think they want in a
mate.The truth is we often do not understand ourselves. Most people are not used to SELF-REFLECTION. We have certain biases imposed on us by our society and culture, and those biases often contradict our biological
selves. In other words, our subconscious may want DIFFERENT things
than our conscious.

To understand the difference between what women (consciously)
'think' they want and what they (subconsciously) REALLY want
is crucial to your success.During the introduction stage, when she has no preference for you or anyone else, she mostly consciously ANALYZES your
information.She may still answer you positively if your profile fits her
image of a "good man" (Russian women don't look for an ideal;
they just want somebody who is good, stable and NORMAL), but
if you do not give her what she really wants, she will
eventually reject you: "I cannot give orders to my heart."

This means you cannot neglect a woman's emotions when trying
to win her affection. Even though women think all they need
is a good man, what they seek is a man who STIRS THEIR
EMOTIONS.Women are EMOTIONAL creatures. They need 'emotional food' in a relationship, just like you need food to keep your body
going. This emotional food is called ROMANCE.Women are romance JUNKIES. This is why women often fall for womanizers.

They do know who they are dealing with, they just CANNOT
help being attracted to men who deliver QUALITY emotional
food for their emotional receptors. Excitement, ANTICIPATION, thrill, emotional ups and downs,
these all are necessary requirements in the game of romance,
just like a suit and tie are necessary requirements in the
corporate game.

Imagine a guy in shorts and an old T-shirt in a corporate
meeting. This is how YOU will look in the game of romance
if you refuse to follow its rules.

Always try to give her something that will make her FEEL
STRONGLY about you and your relationships. As long as she
FEELS SOMETHING, she is in. As soon as she becomes BORED,
she is out.

Make her DO SOMETHING for YOU, so she has to put in an
effort.

We value things we put effort into.

Only give her your effort if you see it returned at least
as strongly.

Do not try to BUY her affection with gifts or compliments;
this won't work. Make her occasional gift or compliment, to
make her feel good about herself (not to make her feel good
about YOU).

Only do it because you WANT to do it, not because you EXPECT
something in return.

Remember, no matter how much money you spend on her, she
does not owe you a thing. Only spend as much money as you
can afford to have wasted.

DON'T do sacrifices for her.

When deciding on a gift, it does not have to be expensive,
and it does not have to be useful; on the contrary, the most
senseless romantic gestures work the best.

Romance itself is useless.

It is a waste.

Like a courtship dance in insects or a bird song, it is
absolutely worthless in terms of producing value.

Most women will be more impressed by a simple flower from
the top of a mountain than by a luxury bouquet from an
expensive florist.

Both are useless, but the former is MUCH MORE romantic.

Summing it up: What women think they want and what they
REALLY want are two DIFFERENT things. Women say they want
security and stability, while in reality they want STRONG
EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCES. They take the game of romance
seriously.



azrae1l's photo
Fri 12/28/07 08:44 PM
wow, your so insightful! but i think i've heard this before but where?......







oh yeah! everywhere!!!!

azrae1l's photo
Fri 12/28/07 08:45 PM
Edited by azrae1l on Fri 12/28/07 08:47 PM
oh yeah one more thing, thats great that russian women want all that stuff......




most of us are not russian...........

lilith401's photo
Fri 12/28/07 08:47 PM
You seem like a very bright young man! What women want is complex, true. Of course, I can only speak for myself. The issue here is not that women don't know what they want, it is more the ability to prioritize and effectively communicate their wants and desires.

What do women want?

Women want to feel safe and secure in the arms of a man.

The safety and security are those "material" things, a man who is employed and has ambition and his head on straight. In a sense, a manly man, only in that he wants to provide. The standard of living, in most cases, is irrelevant. To those few women where it matters, they are not seeking the second part and have lost their way in the material world.

The "in the arms" part is the emotional experience. The passion, the thoughtfulness, the feeling of being heard and feeling as though we matter. To be respected and considered, and for that to come out in deeds and actions.

I appreciate your thoughtfulness and articulation on this subject and hope my two cents, from an actual female perspective, are worth it.

wmyers4u's photo
Fri 12/28/07 08:51 PM
is there an echo in here??

is there an echo in here??

lilith401's photo
Fri 12/28/07 08:53 PM
Edited by lilith401 on Fri 12/28/07 09:17 PM
site posted more than once...

Jtevans's photo
Fri 12/28/07 09:18 PM
just wanted to point something out,did anyone else notice on the reply count on this thread,it shows it not at 8 but -8 ?weird...huh

munch151's photo
Fri 12/28/07 09:21 PM
After reading some of the posts around here I kinda figured most women want chocolate, wine, and rough sex :tongue:

lilith401's photo
Fri 12/28/07 09:25 PM
i know i'm not russian.....

tcgospel's photo
Fri 12/28/07 09:49 PM
OK, who has the degree herelaugh Everyones diferent guyz.if you follow your head you will never find your heart. Blessings to all

WhiteSox0507's photo
Sat 12/29/07 12:00 AM
Charismatic, have you been reading David DeAngelo's newsletters?

What he says about Russian women wanting certain things in a man, but reacting emotionally to the complete oppostie applies to women all around the world, not just Russia. Attraction is counter-intuitive. What most men believe will build attraction will actually destroy it. Charismatic is right when he says "As long as she FEELS SOMETHING, she is in. As soon as she becomes BORED, she is out." (Although I do believe he got that from somewhere else. David D. says that quite often. Please cite your sources from now on, lol).

Jess642's photo
Sat 12/29/07 06:15 AM
Ironically women have more than one sense.

They have common sense, intuition, experiential knowledge, emotional sense, or (emotional IQ)...as well as a host of knowledgeable sense, being capable of reading the same articles as you.

Then there are the other five standard senses....sight, touch, taste, smell, and hearing.

An accumulative of all of the above senses, in a woman who is self reflective, will culminate in a far greater sum total of how and who and why, she is attracted to someone.

Stimulate her curiosity, her intellect, and save the platitudes for the unevolved.

Money, could come in handy for a woman hoping to have children in the future, as does a nice house, or other material possessions that denote 'stability'..

Women who have had their families, or are financially stable themselves, rarely add the aforementioned 'assets' of the object of their attraction to any equation.

You want a sure fired formula for a successful way of attracting women?

Stop reading the 'shortcut' paraphernalia written by a man, and start reading the no nonsense articles written by women.

We can smell BS from a mile away, we can even intuit intent to BS...don't bother with the 'fake it till you make it' cause you will never make it, with an evolved woman.

You want a successful relationship? Do the work, and cut the crap, and you may get a second look.


How's that for straight off the analytical, no emotion, top of my head?

Oh, also subconsciously, I wouldn't touch your information with a barge pole....try to play my emotions, and you'd get a kick in the guts.

ellgee1976's photo
Sat 12/29/07 06:45 AM
Edited by ellgee1976 on Sat 12/29/07 06:46 AM
am i alone, or does any other woman on here find ourselves being ANALIZED by posts like this??


anyone offended by it?

Jess642's photo
Sat 12/29/07 06:47 AM
Please read my last sentence..... yep I'm offended...:wink: grumble

ellgee1976's photo
Sat 12/29/07 06:55 AM

Please read my last sentence..... yep I'm offended...:wink: grumble


kinda why i said it Jess...lol

sometimes i try to point out the obvious, for those that are less than oblivious to it lol laugh laugh

lilith401's photo
Sat 12/29/07 08:02 AM

am i alone, or does any other woman on here find ourselves being ANALIZED by posts like this??


anyone offended by it?



Whether he is trying to analyze women or not, I think the point here is that at least he put some thought into it. Sure, he took his statements from somewhere else, but there is something to be said for the whole "Men Are From Mars Women Are From Venus" debate. I'm looking at it as at least he is trying to understand, rather than analyze. Of course, I could just not be jumping to conclusions.

no photo
Sat 12/29/07 08:14 AM

After reading some of the posts around here I kinda figured most women want chocolate, wine, and rough sex :tongue:


Just chocolate....it makes everything better :wink:

ellgee1976's photo
Sat 12/29/07 10:08 AM

Whether he is trying to analyze women or not, I think the point here is that at least he put some thought into it. Sure, he took his statements from somewhere else, but there is something to be said for the whole "Men Are From Mars Women Are From Venus" debate. I'm looking at it as at least he is trying to understand, rather than analyze. Of course, I could just not be jumping to conclusions.


and there's those of us who have seen this type of 'understanding' before, and we know better lol

lilith401's photo
Sat 12/29/07 10:20 AM
Edited by lilith401 on Sat 12/29/07 10:49 AM
and there's those of us who have seen this type of 'understanding' before, and we know better lol


what I'm saying is that being openminded is usually my first perspective. Getting jaded, or acting as though you are, just seems so negative.

I posted twice after this, but neither showed up... ?

ellgee1976's photo
Sat 12/29/07 10:25 AM
Edited by ellgee1976 on Sat 12/29/07 10:57 AM
lol or realistic

laugh laugh laugh







same here...i see nothing after this post

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