Topic: How to be in a relationship when mission-driven
SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Tue 08/11/20 03:42 AM
This is actually quite beautiful and something to ponder.
From Joe Dispenza, basically answering how he sees a relationship when you're a mission-driven person.

"I don't work on a relationship. I work on me. I'll bring my best, you bring your best, and we get together and we celebrate.
It should work, and if it doesn't I'm going to step back and look at me -not you- to see what it is I need to look at and change. If there's a vibrational match, when it flows and it's fun and you connect physically, mentally, mind body soul, that's healthy.
But a mission-driven person can't be in a relationship where you have to keep going back and try to fix something.
When it's right it's right."



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Tue 08/11/20 05:45 AM
I have to say, I've always found this to be a difficulty and I'm not sure that I could be in a relationship with someone who had no interest in their own spiritual development.

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Tue 08/11/20 05:58 AM
as far as spiritulism,....to me ,some wow wee ,no religion

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Tue 08/11/20 08:03 AM
This is actually quite beautiful and something to ponder.

To me this seems quite horrible.
Is this guy trying to sell books to people who feel more than think but have convinced themselves they think more than feel?
Or just taken out of a larger context?
Or are they a pick up artist trying to justify solipsism and short term relationships?

"I don't work on a relationship. I work on me.

Any work on yourself will change the relationship and the other person as they adapt to any changes you make.
If you only focus on working on yourself, it could very easily mean you aren't paying that much attention (or possibly caring) how it affects your partner.
Any work on yourself (without considering how it affects the relationship/other person, consideration which would be called "work on a relationship") is going to change how you perceive your partner.
Depending on the "work" and what it affects, you can become a completely different person, and see the other person in a completely different way, or their perceptions of you.
Without "working on the relationship" you've just left that person behind.

Or IOW "F you, you were never really that important. It's all about me and my mission. You are either an extension of my ego and here to help that, or you are hurting that. For me, or against me. You had your use and chance to change yourself to my mission, now you don't. Any changes or work I do are for myself, my mission."

There is a huge difference between "I can only really control myself. But I should consider, be cognizant and mindful of, and measure, how my choices, decisions, and behavior affects others, as well as provide honest feedback on how their choices, decisions, and behavior affect me," and, "I don't work on a relationship. I work on me."

I'll bring my best, you bring your best, and we get together and we celebrate.

This seems to assume you can keep from bringing your worst. Or that no one has baggage or that it can just be ignored.
Not to mention it seems to presume that what one considers their "best" is universal and unchanging.
That there is no "getting to know" or learning curve in relationships.
Also, if you've brought your best, why would you work on yourself (from "I don't work on a relationship. I work on me.").

If you bring your best and you're celebrating, (realistically speaking) how is the other person going to react if you "take a step back" (stop celebrating), and start "working on me?" Does that mean your best is a lie?
What happens if you work on finding new bests but the new bests are incompatible?

It should work, and if it doesn't I'm going to step back and look at me -not you- to see what it is I need to look at and change.

Again, shouldn't there be collaboration?
And what are you stepping back from? What exactly does that look like in practical reality?
A relationship is just how people interact. Taking a step back is taking a step back from the relationship, a step back from interaction.
As worded it seems to be saying "I withdraw from the relationship and focus on myself based on my own analysis of me. I don't really get any input from you. You don't matter. You don't really affect me."

If there's a vibrational match, when it flows and it's fun and you connect physically, mentally, mind body soul, that's healthy.

To me this is like someone saying "As long as you feel fine, can live your life normally, enjoy the things you enjoy, you're still happy, then there's no reason to start eating healthy or to ever visit a doctor. And if anything changes, well, deal with it yourself. You work on you."

But a mission-driven person can't be in a relationship where you have to keep going back and try to fix something.

Based solely on what is in the OP, possibly out of context or part of a larger work, what's quoted makes it seem like the person doesn't know the difference between something needing to be "fixed" and something that needs basic maintenance, upkeep, attention, feedback, and focus to keep it going.

And of course there's the obvious "What happens when the mission driven person that's in a relationship comes across someone else that seems to be a better match towards fulfilling that mission?"

To me the OP about "mission driven" people is, at best, seeing relationships like two people playing a video game.
Where the game is the "mission" and each person has a controller.
Not fulfilling the mission of the game the "mission driven" player stops playing and looks at their own skills and how to improve them in order to overcome any of the other players weaknesses (with possibly expecting the other person to do the same, but to focus on their own weaknesses to help the other person fulfill their mission, subordinating themselves to the other), or to get rid of the other player.
As opposed to both players talking to each other, working with each other, helping each other to learn to play the game together, or trying to figure out if they should play a different game altogether, if the game is actually interfering, or do something other than play games at all.

So to me, the OP isn't something "quite beautiful and something to ponder" as much as something possibly horrible and should be avoided.

But again, devil is in the details. There are a lot of words that would need more clear definition. Like what is the actual "mission."
What exactly do they consider "work."
What exactly does "vibrational," or, "flows," or, "connect," look like and mean to them.




SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Tue 08/11/20 08:09 AM

I have to say, I've always found this to be a difficulty and I'm not sure that I could be in a relationship with someone who had no interest in their own spiritual development.

Yes, still too many people that are going around in circles with themselves and not taking responsibility for their lives/themselves.
And granted, it sometimes isn't easy, but then it should be like Joe said: you withdraw to look at what's going on with yourself.
And part of being ready for this is of course having worked on yourself first so you've grown. I've also outgrown the 'old model'.

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Tue 08/11/20 08:38 AM
Ah well, as the saying as it: "nothing worthwhile is ever easy".:slight_smile:

I_love_bluegrass's photo
Tue 08/11/20 10:07 AM

This is actually quite beautiful and something to ponder.

To me this seems quite horrible.
Is this guy trying to sell books to people who feel more than think but have convinced themselves they think more than feel?
Or just taken out of a larger context?
Or are they a pick up artist trying to justify solipsism and short term relationships?

"I don't work on a relationship. I work on me.

Any work on yourself will change the relationship and the other person as they adapt to any changes you make.
If you only focus on working on yourself, it could very easily mean you aren't paying that much attention (or possibly caring) how it affects your partner.
Any work on yourself (without considering how it affects the relationship/other person, consideration which would be called "work on a relationship") is going to change how you perceive your partner.
Depending on the "work" and what it affects, you can become a completely different person, and see the other person in a completely different way, or their perceptions of you.
Without "working on the relationship" you've just left that person behind.

Or IOW "F you, you were never really that important. It's all about me and my mission. You are either an extension of my ego and here to help that, or you are hurting that. For me, or against me. You had your use and chance to change yourself to my mission, now you don't. Any changes or work I do are for myself, my mission."

There is a huge difference between "I can only really control myself. But I should consider, be cognizant and mindful of, and measure, how my choices, decisions, and behavior affects others, as well as provide honest feedback on how their choices, decisions, and behavior affect me," and, "I don't work on a relationship. I work on me."

I'll bring my best, you bring your best, and we get together and we celebrate.

This seems to assume you can keep from bringing your worst. Or that no one has baggage or that it can just be ignored.
Not to mention it seems to presume that what one considers their "best" is universal and unchanging.
That there is no "getting to know" or learning curve in relationships.
Also, if you've brought your best, why would you work on yourself (from "I don't work on a relationship. I work on me.").

If you bring your best and you're celebrating, (realistically speaking) how is the other person going to react if you "take a step back" (stop celebrating), and start "working on me?" Does that mean your best is a lie?
What happens if you work on finding new bests but the new bests are incompatible?

It should work, and if it doesn't I'm going to step back and look at me -not you- to see what it is I need to look at and change.

Again, shouldn't there be collaboration?
And what are you stepping back from? What exactly does that look like in practical reality?
A relationship is just how people interact. Taking a step back is taking a step back from the relationship, a step back from interaction.
As worded it seems to be saying "I withdraw from the relationship and focus on myself based on my own analysis of me. I don't really get any input from you. You don't matter. You don't really affect me."

If there's a vibrational match, when it flows and it's fun and you connect physically, mentally, mind body soul, that's healthy.

To me this is like someone saying "As long as you feel fine, can live your life normally, enjoy the things you enjoy, you're still happy, then there's no reason to start eating healthy or to ever visit a doctor. And if anything changes, well, deal with it yourself. You work on you."

But a mission-driven person can't be in a relationship where you have to keep going back and try to fix something.

Based solely on what is in the OP, possibly out of context or part of a larger work, what's quoted makes it seem like the person doesn't know the difference between something needing to be "fixed" and something that needs basic maintenance, upkeep, attention, feedback, and focus to keep it going.

And of course there's the obvious "What happens when the mission driven person that's in a relationship comes across someone else that seems to be a better match towards fulfilling that mission?"

To me the OP about "mission driven" people is, at best, seeing relationships like two people playing a video game.
Where the game is the "mission" and each person has a controller.
Not fulfilling the mission of the game the "mission driven" player stops playing and looks at their own skills and how to improve them in order to overcome any of the other players weaknesses (with possibly expecting the other person to do the same, but to focus on their own weaknesses to help the other person fulfill their mission, subordinating themselves to the other), or to get rid of the other player.
As opposed to both players talking to each other, working with each other, helping each other to learn to play the game together, or trying to figure out if they should play a different game altogether, if the game is actually interfering, or do something other than play games at all.

So to me, the OP isn't something "quite beautiful and something to ponder" as much as something possibly horrible and should be avoided.

But again, devil is in the details. There are a lot of words that would need more clear definition. Like what is the actual "mission."
What exactly do they consider "work."
What exactly does "vibrational," or, "flows," or, "connect," look like and mean to them.