Topic: Have you ever done jury duty?
SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 07/15/20 10:38 AM

I've been summoned a few times, but managed to get excused. In the Florida Keys they only pay $10 a day and that's only if you do it for more than 3 days. I still have a Florida's driving license, so still get summons. But I live in another State so don't have to serve.

$10 dollars??? Holy crap... Lucky you for not having to go.
And a Florida license?? So you don't get an America driver's license but one of a state? I'm learning new stuff here, haha.

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 07/15/20 10:42 AM

I got called every 2 years (the maximum) up until I hit 70 when
you can recuse yourself for age.

I had a real hard time with the other idiots, er, jurors. One
time they just played 'tickle' me while supposedly deliberating,
when we came out the Judge asked what was so funny, I just
rolled my eyes..hard to explain your fellow jurors had one aim
only, to get out early, one old lady said, as soon as we entered
deliberations, "Well, if he wasn't guilty we wouldn't be here
so let's give him one and not the other, poof we are done!"

I was permanently horrified.

Another time, twas a fellow up for burglary and assault because
he went out, got drunk and when he returned to his house, he
got the wrong one and tried to fit his key in the foreign lock,
homeowners came charging out with a rifle, he is drunk and
therefore not understanding, tries again to open the screen door
and bumps the old lady with it=assault, trying to open the
door=burglary..11 to 1 on that one..and I was the only non-drinker
on the jury!

Lame.

That's the thing that would worry me too!! It'd piss me off tremendously if people would try whatever just to get out. That's why I think it's a FU system, yet almost every country uses it. Quite amazing.
Even if I'd hate being on the jury, I take responsibility VERY seriously and I would never ever want to mistakenly get someone imprisoned or worse.
That last case you describe is disgusting.
And amazing you got called on that often!!
Happy for you you don't have to go anymore now. Also shocking that you can get called on until 70?!

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 07/15/20 10:44 AM
Amazing read from everyone!
I had NO idea that you got called on so often. When I asked I had expected no one to have been on a jury, but look how many and many more than once.
Very interesting!!
flowerforyou

Riverspirit1111's photo
Wed 07/15/20 10:48 AM


I've been summoned a few times, but managed to get excused. In the Florida Keys they only pay $10 a day and that's only if you do it for more than 3 days. I still have a Florida's driving license, so still get summons. But I live in another State so don't have to serve.

$10 dollars??? Holy crap... Lucky you for not having to go.
And a Florida license?? So you don't get an America driver's license but one of a state? I'm learning new stuff here, haha.


Yes $10, if you are on jury long term, I think over ten days or two weeks, it's around $30, but it stinks. I don't know if it's the same throughout Florida, just the county I live in.

As for licenses, you are supposed to get a license in the State you live in, so if you move to a new State, you get a license for that State. There are exceptions. Some people live in two States. They live in the North during nice weather and Florida during the winter months. So they can have a license in either State. And seasonal workers don't have to change licenses if they work in a different State, but they're legal residency is the State where they have the license.

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 07/15/20 10:58 AM



I've been summoned a few times, but managed to get excused. In the Florida Keys they only pay $10 a day and that's only if you do it for more than 3 days. I still have a Florida's driving license, so still get summons. But I live in another State so don't have to serve.

$10 dollars??? Holy crap... Lucky you for not having to go.
And a Florida license?? So you don't get an America driver's license but one of a state? I'm learning new stuff here, haha.


Yes $10, if you are on jury long term, I think over ten days or two weeks, it's around $30, but it stinks. I don't know if it's the same throughout Florida, just the county I live in.

As for licenses, you are supposed to get a license in the State you live in, so if you move to a new State, you get a license for that State. There are exceptions. Some people live in two States. They live in the North during nice weather and Florida during the winter months. So they can have a license in either State. And seasonal workers don't have to change licenses if they work in a different State, but they're legal residency is the State where they have the license.

$30 a day indeed stinks. If I work for average pay here I have $90 approx for 8 hrs work. Meaning I'd lose out big time for being on a jury. Not right!

Interesting about the licenses! So it's mandatory if you move to another state to live to get another license? And if you don't and you get pulled over you can get fined? And I assume it also costs money to have that done? Dang, that would P me O hahaha.

Toodygirl5's photo
Wed 07/15/20 10:59 AM


I was called for jury duty but the offender decided to take a Bench trial. Another time I was called but got excused because I had a doctor's release not to attend.

Not sure what a bench trial is, but quite amazing it happened to you 2x as well!


Bench trial here is with a judge only.

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 07/15/20 11:01 AM



I was called for jury duty but the offender decided to take a Bench trial. Another time I was called but got excused because I had a doctor's release not to attend.

Not sure what a bench trial is, but quite amazing it happened to you 2x as well!


Bench trial here is with a judge only.

Ah, okay, thanks! That's how our system works :) Judge or judges decide(s) what the verdict is. In Europe that's the case in Germany & The Netherlands only, the rest all have jury system too.

delightfulillusion's photo
Wed 07/15/20 11:05 AM
In the UK, there are around 30 people who get informed that they have to attend Court for jury service on a given day. Now not everybody turns up; some ignore the summons, some are excused, others may be ill etc.

Scottish juries consist of 15 people so if a few people don’t turn up on the day that then increases your chances of being selected. This is why I was selected the second time. Only 18 people turned up so the odds of being picked were in my favour.

All names are put into a silver bowl and a court representative will pull out names. Once your name is read out you go into a room with all the others who were selected. You are then given information of the crime and the name of the perpetrator. If you think you know them then you are excused and another juror is again selected.

Before the trial starts, you discuss with the other jurors who would be the β€˜Foreman’. After that you would be sworn in,

Riverspirit1111's photo
Wed 07/15/20 11:08 AM
Edited by Riverspirit1111 on Wed 07/15/20 11:15 AM




I've been summoned a few times, but managed to get excused. In the Florida Keys they only pay $10 a day and that's only if you do it for more than 3 days. I still have a Florida's driving license, so still get summons. But I live in another State so don't have to serve.

$10 dollars??? Holy crap... Lucky you for not having to go.
And a Florida license?? So you don't get an America driver's license but one of a state? I'm learning new stuff here, haha.


Yes $10, if you are on jury long term, I think over ten days or two weeks, it's around $30, but it stinks. I don't know if it's the same throughout Florida, just the county I live in.

As for licenses, you are supposed to get a license in the State you live in, so if you move to a new State, you get a license for that State. There are exceptions. Some people live in two States. They live in the North during nice weather and Florida during the winter months. So they can have a license in either State. And seasonal workers don't have to change licenses if they work in a different State, but they're legal residency is the State where they have the license.

$30 a day indeed stinks. If I work for average pay here I have $90 approx for 8 hrs work. Meaning I'd lose out big time for being on a jury. Not right!

Interesting about the licenses! So it's mandatory if you move to another state to live to get another license? And if you don't and you get pulled over you can get fined? And I assume it also costs money to have that done? Dang, that would P me O hahaha.



They normally give you up to 60 days, depending on the State, to switch it over once you've established residency. It does cost to switch it over and you have to register your vehicle in that State too, so that's extra. I'm not sure about the penalties, most likely it's a fine.


SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 07/15/20 11:09 AM

In the UK, there are around 30 people who get informed that they have to attend Court for jury service on a given day. Now not everybody turns up; some ignore the summons, some are excused, others may be ill etc.

Scottish juries consist of 15 people so if a few people don’t turn up on the day that then increases your chances of being selected. This is why I was selected the second time. Only 18 people turned up so the odds of being picked were in my favour.

All names are put into a silver bowl and a court representative will pull out names. Once your name is read out you go into a room with all the others who were selected. You are then given information of the crime and the name of the perpetrator. If you think you know them then you are excused and another juror is again selected.

Before the trial starts, you discuss with the other jurors who would be the β€˜Foreman’. After that you would be sworn in,

Cool. So from what I understand that is again different from how a US jury is selected. There both parties can decline or accept members, with a limit to the number I believe, depending on what suits their case.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Wed 07/15/20 11:11 AM
I'm not sure about other states but when I renewed this last time, changing from a CDL to a normal license in Mississippi, I found out I can renew online when it expires in 8 years. Supposedly they just use the same photo.

Every license I've ever had expired on my birthday.

A CDL requires a physical examination approval in order to be renewed and a med card is required while operating the truck (that law may be different now?).
CDL's also require what is called endorsements which allow you to operate vehicles with air brakes, hazardous materials and multiple trailers.

Only one license is permitted per person.
There are restrictions that can be added to a license (eye glasses, night driving, etc...).
CDLs are federal licenses. Normal driver licenses are state licenses.
School bus drivers and chauffeurs require a special license.

Since a driver license and a voter registration is a unique identification they are used for selecting jury prospects.
While non-citizens can obtain a license, no non-citizens may register to vote.
Recently (within the last 20 years), all license renewals required a state document of birth to verify your citizenship.
When I renewed that time, I was told the birth certificate from the hospital where I was born was not valid, even tho it was valid to use to get my original license and enter military service.
I had to order a certificate of birth from the state of Pennsylvania before I could renew. I tried using mu honorable discharge DD-214 as proof of citizenship but it was deemed invalid without a state certificate.
This was shortly after 9/11/2001.

I had a GF who did not have a driver's license. She was required to provide a certificate of birth from her state before she could get a valid ID. That was a mess. She could not do anything (including buying beer) without a valid ID.

Since some type of valid, state approved ID is required and need verification, I imagine the jury pool selection process also includes citizens with valid IDs.

no photo
Wed 07/15/20 12:50 PM
i've never been called, but for the longest time my mother was on their speed dial.seemed like she got called up about every 3 months. she was only selected a couple of times and being self employed got excused many times.

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 07/15/20 12:55 PM

i've never been called, but for the longest time my mother was on their speed dial.seemed like she got called up about every 3 months. she was only selected a couple of times and being self employed got excused many times.

Hahaha. She must've been real popular! Good thing she got out of it a lot. So that is possible if self-employed?

And I hope you knocked on wood when you said you've never been called!!

no photo
Wed 07/15/20 01:00 PM
there are many excusable reasons but none of them are foolproof and work every time. for mom, she was the owner and main employee on the day shift with no one else able to replace her.

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 07/15/20 01:07 PM

there are many excusable reasons but none of them are foolproof and work every time. for mom, she was the owner and main employee on the day shift with no one else able to replace her.

Good that they take that into consideration!

Freebird Deluxe's photo
Wed 07/15/20 01:14 PM
Re the money
It is an important job in a courtroom, I have always thought the payment should at least match that of a mid ranking civil servant or if not more say Β£175 a day ,

Riverspirit1111's photo
Wed 07/15/20 01:25 PM
Edited by Riverspirit1111 on Wed 07/15/20 01:26 PM

Re the money
It is an important job in a courtroom, I have always thought the payment should at least match that of a mid ranking civil servant or if not more say Β£175 a day ,


Most places here, like in Florida, they consider it your civil duty, it's an imposed volunteer thing. They basically give you an allowance that covers gas expenses and lunch, any other expenses have to come from your savings. There are some places of employment that have jury duty paid days, and if that's the case, the court doesn't give you anything. Least that's how it was in Florida, each State/County is different.


SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 07/15/20 01:28 PM

Re the money
It is an important job in a courtroom, I have always thought the payment should at least match that of a mid ranking civil servant or if not more say Β£175 a day ,

Well, at least something that is like normal pay for a full day's work. But then there's the issue that if someone has a high income... People with higher income also have higher costs. Difficult matter :/ I do know that $10 or $30 is ridiculous.
Sure it's considered a service to the country (I suppose) but that shouldn't cost you money or clients.

Riverspirit1111's photo
Wed 07/15/20 01:39 PM
Ooops, I was mistaken. Just checked and in the Florida Keys, it's $15 a day for 3 days, and then $30 a day for any days over 3, hahaha!

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 07/15/20 01:47 PM


Re the money
It is an important job in a courtroom, I have always thought the payment should at least match that of a mid ranking civil servant or if not more say Β£175 a day ,


Most places here, like in Florida, they consider it your civil duty, it's an imposed volunteer thing. They basically give you an allowance that covers gas expenses and lunch, any other expenses have to come from your savings. There are some places of employment that have jury duty paid days, and if that's the case, the court doesn't give you anything. Least that's how it was in Florida, each State/County is different.



Pfff... so if you haven't got any savings you're just in chit.
Jury duty paid days is a great thing!

It is interesting to learn about all this stuff.