Do I have an issue? No.
Do I disagree? Yes.

Although the way you referred to Win98SE as pwnage, leads me to believe you are.

There is not one Windows operating system I would describe as good. But 2000 is the best out of all of them.

Security on 98 / ME just doesn't exist.

Ta,

~C

Well lets clarify on the Mac issue as well! I myself aam no Mac expert by any stretch of the imagination...but I do know one who does nothing but work on Mac Applications (he is the lead programmer for a rather large software company that you can buy in any retail store).

As he states very clearly, mac has its own BIG set of problems as well. So trying to say Mac is "so much better" is bunk.

Mac has always been very good with miltimedia applications and has lead the way in many of those areas. However, Mac has had many failures, jst like Windows.

The MAIN reason mac has little security issues now, is simply because they do not have the "attacks" on the core programming, like Windows does. Why? mac only make up about 6-8% of the business computing world!

I'm NOT defnending Windblows or Microsux by any means. I simply have to deal with thier CRAP because I do this for a "living" and have to face thier junk on daily basis.

But had to clarify to the Mac users...your's is NOT the best either!

Who? I know some very badly written off the shelf Mac apps. I used to write Windows software (urrrrgh) but that still didn't qualify me as an expert. I have developed for Mac OSX and Windows, and I must say I much prefer developing for OSX, its just nicer for the developer (Objective C Yay! ).




Just because it has problems too, doesn't mean its not a lot better.



Such as? Actually Windows has caught up with Macs with regards to multimedia performance. The main cause of this was due to the Fat32 filesystem not being able to handle files greater than 4GB. This is an old saying and no longer relevant.



Not true, people who search for vulnerabilities rarely target business machines. Just look at email viruses et al. Recently there was a trojan horse for Macs. You had to visit a porn site, click on a link that said you needed a video codec. Accept the download, double click the file and enter your admin password.

This is because you need to authenticate to be able to write system files on OSX (and to open ports below 1024).

There was a recent attack on Macs which involved the WiFi driver, but was proven not to be a serious as it sounds.





What is the best? Best at what?

My choices are:

Security / Server / Firewall / Router - OpenBSD
Home Server / Media Server / Security - Linux (Debian)
Development (Web - Ruby, PHP, Python, MySQL)) / Design - Mac OSX
Games - Windows

I don't play games... So I don't run Windows - Although ID Software and EA have recently committed to releasing all their major titles on OSX, others are expected to follow.

Not having a go, just trying to clear a few things up for the viewers at home .

Ta,

~C

I have to disagree with you somethin..

I work on Microsoft, Mac, Linux and every other OS out there.. Each have their advantages and disadvantages, of course.

The hardware in a Mac is far superior then any P.C.. It always has been. Both in stability and performance.

The Mac OS is more efficient, stable, secure and intuitive then any Windows product.

And yes, as you mentioned. Malware is not designed as often for Macs as they are for Microsoft. Even Unix has more attacks in the wild then Macs.

It's only real downfall? It does not have the choice of application packages that a P.C. does. So.. from a consumers standpoint... they put up with a Windows based P.C. for that reason alone.

Just from an economic stand point.. It does not pay to just service Macs... The up time on Macs will have you saying 'Do you want fries with that?' inside of a year.

I've got a few graphics/ multimedia accounts that run Mac workstations and
Linux servers... A few that are Microsoft both in stations and servers...

I report to the Mac/ Linux sites maybe 3 times a year, via the internet, just to do a log overview and systems check for the most part. Maybe doing an upgrade on occasion both on-site and off.

I am at the Microsoft PC based sites billing at least 30 hours annually, just in service calls over mallfunctioning hardware, security issues, operator headspace.... etc... Not to mention employee training and upgrades. That is usually another 20 hours.

I was not and am not debating that Windows is better than Mac, or any "camparison" of the two. Just pointing out. Mac has its share of problems. Less than Microsux for sure! And I am not looking at all the OTHER OS options out there, Like Linux, Unix, etc.

Simple statement...Mac has its share of problems too. And given it carries such a small market share, just must take into account the size difference in some problem areas.

Sorry, the way you used the word best in your previous post suggested bias to me. Thanks for clearing that up .

Either way, saying that Macs have less problems due to the smaller user base is a flawed argument.

Above a certain number of users, reliability can be compared.

Had you made your statement about Amiga OS, I would have agreed!

Ta,

~C

ME is garbadge!!!!!! worst os available, then vista.

I disagree, i believe like any OS mac has its fair problems as well, going along with 'sumthing' on this one. WIth what he was saying as well as adding that alot of people are ANTI-Microsoft. This means that anything other than Microsoft is a superior product, and word-of-mouth spreaded such. Its technology, as well ive noticed more problems with thier I-Pod's than i have seen with thier zunes. look in the fourms, Even MAC has thier problems

No serious IT professional will use Windows, *inux is the way to go. I've seen **** done on a 266mhz that rivals most "extreme" Winblows servers. Gotta love scaled down resources baby :)

very true, The GUI on Windows requires alot of resouces, well its user friendly. Linux is mostly command based. Seems we need more stuff which requires more resources which lags the computer down.