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Topic: Prop 420; Legalising And Regulating Marijuana
Turtlepoet78's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:08 AM
Didn't know where for sure to post this, so I put it here thinking this is the most rellevant.
I posted this a long time ago in my myspace blog and on reezle, I know I missed a few things, mainly where the initial funding would come from, this was my first attempt at writing such a thing, so please bare with me;^]

First, the law would be as follows; Marijuana and all paraphinalia would be dealt only at designated centers with a five to ten percent tax which goes directly to funding detox/ rehabilitative/ mental health services. You can also grow up to five plants in your home. Smoking will only be permitted either at a marijuana center or at home and all driving under the influence laws apply. Legal age for purchasing and obtaining marijuana is strictly 18. There will be a special team put to together much like the FDA, except to monitor the quality and purity of all marijuana being sold. Driving under the influence laws will also be made stricter, first offense is an automatic ten days in jail, second up to six months and third and automatic year, if a life is taken from the accident then minimum sentancing will be five years and maximum will twenty unless it was found to be intentional, in which case manslaughter charges fully apply. Any company found "enhancing" their marijuana with narcotics or other dangerous/ lethal substances will face criminal charges and face up to fifty years in prison plus business forclosure. Any clerk found selling marijuana or paraphinalia to minors will face the same penalty as stated in the previous line. Also, any other crime commited that involves intoxication will have an additional maximum of ten years added to the sentance for their crime. Illeagal trading or selling of marijuana will face a minimum of one year and maximum of five, and if the illeagal trading/ selling involves narcotic mixing minimum is five years maximum is ten. Selling outside of licensed marijuana centers is strictly prohibited. I also propose a marijuana for food program to third world nations with friendly U.S. relations.

Anything other than funding I miss?;^]

ech0dish's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:22 AM
Just have patience with the way this war is going its just a matter of time before the government starts handing out Marijuana seeds to all the farmers again.

xander29's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:31 AM
Any company found "enhancing" their marijuana with narcotics or other dangerous/ lethal substances will face criminal charges and face up to fifty years in prison plus business forclosure. Any clerk found selling marijuana or paraphinalia to minors will face the same penalty as stated in the previous line.

While definitely a no-no, I wouldn't see our judicial system going for such a strict sentence on the mentioned crimes. 10-20 years for "enhancing" and loss of job for those selling to minors is more realistic.


Wiccancowboy's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:32 AM
I agree with you Sir. The Money that would come in could be used also to get out of federal debt too. i understand that some might think that ol Mary Jane is "addictictive" but only with Additives. i used to smoke but had to stop because i joined the military, but oh well.

Turtlepoet78's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:34 AM
Of course, sentancing guidlines would be negotiable as a revision. I mainly made it so strict as to attract those on the other side of the aisle. But yeah, 10 to 20 would be ok with me also;^]

xander29's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:35 AM

I agree with you Sir. The Money that would come in could be used also to get out of federal debt too. i understand that some might think that ol Mary Jane is "addictictive" but only with Additives. i used to smoke but had to stop because i joined the military, but oh well.


I smoke right now, but I'm quitting because I enter boot camp for the marines in 6 months. Federal debt would be gone, we could pay back all the countries that we owe, and even for once have a large surplus and export. drinker

MariJane63's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:35 AM
smokin

lizardking19's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:36 AM
Edited by lizardking19 on Sat 12/15/07 08:37 AM
dude i got nothin against potsmoking, its less dangerous than booze, but i dont think it should be legal n heres y: if it becomes legal then the ciggarette companies will get ahold of it and corrupt it beyond all recognition like they did 2 tobacco which when unprocessed is not as potent/dangerous as pot but when processed kills thounds of people each year. Processed pot=death

Turtlepoet78's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:37 AM
Well, it would definatly be a strong economic assett, I just don't wanna see the taxes involved go to anything but what I mentioned, all of which are so under funded right now it ain't funny, at least where I'm at anyway;^]

xander29's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:38 AM
Here's a testimonial from Europe on legalizing marijuana

The Bulldog is credited as the oldest cannabis cafe in Amsterdam, starting up in 1975, a year before the current drug laws were enacted.

Marijuana and hashish are generally sold right next to the drinks and snacks in the city's extensive network of "coffeeshops" or "cannabis cafes," as they're also known. Sometimes the drugs are available at the
counter; sometimes they're sold by a guy sitting over in the corner.
There's always a menu specifying type, quantity and price, making comparison shopping easy.

Both the Dutch Ministry of Justice and the Amsterdam Police Department proudly point to the coffeehouse scene as a social system that has reduced drug-related crime and limited the number of people who abuse
hard drugs, such as cocaine and heroin.


Lizardking: has not happened in Amsterdam. people are not dying from pot...

lizardking19's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:41 AM
Yes but in amsterdam there is not the possibility of the influence of evil american ciggarette companies on their product

Turtlepoet78's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:42 AM

dude i got nothin against potsmoking, its less dangerous than booze, but i dont think it should be legal n heres y: if it becomes legal then the ciggarette companies will get ahold of it and corrupt it beyond all recognition like they did 2 tobacco which when unprocessed is not as potent/dangerous as pot but when processed kills thounds of people each year. Processed pot=death


Which is why I added the team for regulating quality and purity. Like cigars, which are pretty much pure tobacco where as ciggerettes are 55% recon tobacco which has been chemicaly enhanced to bring out the nicotine, that's the processing danger in ciggerettes. But we can regulate and maintain the purity of marijuana, and even without it it goes back to the arguement of having the right to choose what goes into your own body;^]

xander29's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:43 AM

Yes but in amsterdam there is not the possibility of the influence of evil american ciggarette companies on their product


Turtlepoet:Any company found "enhancing" their marijuana with narcotics or other dangerous/ lethal substances will face criminal charges and face up to fifty years in prison plus business forclosure.

Did you read that part? According to his prop. "processing" in the way you describe would be punishable by law.

xander29's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:44 AM


dude i got nothin against potsmoking, its less dangerous than booze, but i dont think it should be legal n heres y: if it becomes legal then the ciggarette companies will get ahold of it and corrupt it beyond all recognition like they did 2 tobacco which when unprocessed is not as potent/dangerous as pot but when processed kills thounds of people each year. Processed pot=death


Which is why I added the team for regulating quality and purity. Like cigars, which are pretty much pure tobacco where as ciggerettes are 55% recon tobacco which has been chemicaly enhanced to bring out the nicotine, that's the processing danger in ciggerettes. But we can regulate and maintain the purity of marijuana, and even without it it goes back to the arguement of having the right to choose what goes into your own body;^]


Roe v. Wade wasn't it? :wink:

peachiegirl28's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:45 AM
smokin right on brothersmokin

Turtlepoet78's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:51 AM



dude i got nothin against potsmoking, its less dangerous than booze, but i dont think it should be legal n heres y: if it becomes legal then the ciggarette companies will get ahold of it and corrupt it beyond all recognition like they did 2 tobacco which when unprocessed is not as potent/dangerous as pot but when processed kills thounds of people each year. Processed pot=death


Which is why I added the team for regulating quality and purity. Like cigars, which are pretty much pure tobacco where as ciggerettes are 55% recon tobacco which has been chemicaly enhanced to bring out the nicotine, that's the processing danger in ciggerettes. But we can regulate and maintain the purity of marijuana, and even without it it goes back to the arguement of having the right to choose what goes into your own body;^]


Roe v. Wade wasn't it? :wink:


Heh, I'm not touching that one..lol;^]

lizardking19's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:53 AM
alright alright, i just think the only way pot will EVER become legal is if the corporations r allowed 2 corrupt it, and the they have gotten ahold of cigars which r processed and much more dangerous than ciggarettes (except the cuban ones which r illegal for some reason)
I hadnt seen that part about purity of the mj, it is a nice little rider but quite an impossibility is a capitalist society where companies have such power

Turtlepoet78's photo
Sat 12/15/07 08:59 AM

alright alright, i just think the only way pot will EVER become legal is if the corporations r allowed 2 corrupt it, and the they have gotten ahold of cigars which r processed and much more dangerous than ciggarettes (except the cuban ones which r illegal for some reason)
I hadnt seen that part about purity of the mj, it is a nice little rider but quite an impossibility is a capitalist society where companies have such power


Where are you getting your info from? Cigars more dangerous than ciggerettes? Last I heard ciggerette smokers are still 8 times more likely to get lung cancer than cigar smokers. Corperations do not have total control either, if they did there would be no minimum wage or unions. Granted, right now SOME companys get a free pass under Bush, but that doesn't mean that they can get away with just anything;^]

lizardking19's photo
Sat 12/15/07 09:00 AM
I had been under the impression that one cigar was like smoking a whole pack of ciggarettes

Turtlepoet78's photo
Sat 12/15/07 09:04 AM

I had been under the impression that one cigar was like smoking a whole pack of ciggarettes


That information is incorrect, they say that about pot too and that's false as well. Ciggerette smokers are the most likely to get lung cancer and snuff or dip users are most likely to get mouth cancer. Of course, ANY tobacco can lead to cancer, but ciggerettes are by far the worst as far as smoking goes;^]

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