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Topic: Is there a God?
Bobby0414's photo
Mon 12/10/07 10:39 PM
Just a nice little story that I would like to share with you all. After meeting someone on here (that is not going too well unfortunately) We were speaking to each other and talking about our fears when she brought up a story about her grandfather that had past away.Which is in part why she is scared to be with me becuase she is scared that everything good in her life will leave. But she had told me that the day that he had past away that morning she went out into the backyard and picked him some flowers and put them into a mason jar and brought them to him in the hospital. And soon later he had past away on her.
I explained that I had never been lucky enough to meet my grandparents because my parents were a bit older when they had me. 44 to be exact. I vaguely remember my grandfather but he past in 1985 when I just 5 or 6 years old. But I do hold a memory of him close to my heart about how he had chased me around with a live lobster and I had ran away and hid.One of the only memories I have of him sadly. But I had never met my grandmother and never got to hug her and know her because she had past away when I was just a few months old. So I was leaving work at 7 am on this past Sunday because I work the night shift and I figured I would try to go and meet them.I knew what cemetery they were buried in but I had no idea where. So I called my parents at 7:15am which they werent to please with .But I had asked "hey mom where is grandpa buried?: She told the cemetery and I had already knew that. But I said where? And the best description mom and dad were able to give me was that the headstone has 2 bushes planted from our yard on each side and you can hear the traffic from the nearby highway when you are in front of the tombstone. This round about description didnt give me much to go on. I got to the graveyard around 7:18 am on Sunday and it was still closed with chains in front the driveway.So i parked my car acroos the street. And I put on my mp3 player and wandered into the long roads with no particular except where I was in relationship to the high way that sits on the other side of the cemetery.I was a cold damp morning in Northeastern New Jersey that day. I walked and walked. I was very cold and I thought how will I ever find my faimily? Now I am not a religious person by any means granted I was raised catholic but I never really believed I dont think. I looked up in the dark grey morning sky and thought to myself maybe God will lead me to them. I must have made a million lefts and rights. I took my mp3 player off and listened for the traffic that mom and dad had told me about.I knew I was close.Finally after walking for 45 minutes I stumbled upon the headstone. I fell on my butt in front of it and said "Grandma, Grandpa , your grandson is here. Instantly a tear formed in my eye. I sat and made my peace with them and told them how much I missed them even though I had never knew them.I said to them that I was ok and everyone of my brother and sisters were well overall.I told them that I was finally going to be ok after a 14 year stint with abusing marijuana and various other things. Which now I have a clean head. Which I dont believe I had to tell them because I know they already knew. I cleaned some leaves off the headstone and thought "How or what lead me to here?" What made me make the turns I had made? I dont know what it was. I cant label it and say it was Jesus or God or Allah because I not really a believer in any of them. But something reunited me with them. I was touched by something. Now I feel as if I have met them and I feel they are with me. (man im getting teary eyed here at work lol) But that will be day I will hold in my mind and heart forever. Maybe now I feel like Im a free person again. I know one day I will see them and be with them forever. And finally get to experience a grandmothers love that I yearn for to this day.

cajunwhitetiger's photo
Mon 12/10/07 10:45 PM
yes there is a god...u are in my prayers

Enya's photo
Mon 12/10/07 10:47 PM
SURE THERES A GOD.BUT FAITH TAKES ALOT TO BE NEAR HIM.
JUST SINCERLY ASK HIM FOR SOMETHING,IF YOUR FAITH IS STRONG,
AND YOUR REQUEST IS SINCERE,HE WILL ALWAYS BE NEAR.

skot's photo
Mon 12/10/07 10:53 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble, but there's no God.

Bobby0414's photo
Mon 12/10/07 11:00 PM
Skot i believed the same a mere week ago. I cant say its a god. I dont know what it is. Something bigger than us and our convictions and what we believe

skot's photo
Mon 12/10/07 11:10 PM
Hey i feel for you man, and i'm glad that you feel fulfilled that you found your grandparents graves. However, to say that you found them doesn't constitute that there is a God. "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin

Bobby0414's photo
Mon 12/10/07 11:12 PM
I cant argue with what I felt that day it was something
ill never know what
but it made me happy thats all who knows maybe just dumb luck

Jared545's photo
Mon 12/10/07 11:15 PM
we are wired to ask such questions, thus, God exists

skot's photo
Mon 12/10/07 11:16 PM
I'm glad that whatever you felt made you happy. Why not leave it at that? Why does it have to be God and not just you feeling a connection with family members? "An atheist is a man who has no invisible means of support."
-- John Buchan

Jared545's photo
Mon 12/10/07 11:19 PM

I'm glad that whatever you felt made you happy. Why not leave it at that? Why does it have to be God and not just you feeling a connection with family members? "An atheist is a man who has no invisible means of support."
-- John Buchan


technically an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in theology

Bobby0414's photo
Mon 12/10/07 11:19 PM
You can quote all the authors and great men that past before us all day but Im not saying there is one
it just made me think twice thats all
maybe there is maybe there isnt
I mean people have been fighting over this for 1000's of years

priase the lord and pass ammunition!- serj tankian

skot's photo
Mon 12/10/07 11:21 PM
Sorry i just love quotes. "You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help?"
-- Dan Barker, Losing Faith in Faith

Jared545's photo
Mon 12/10/07 11:31 PM
A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading.
C. S. Lewis

skot's photo
Mon 12/10/07 11:33 PM
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
-- Stephen Roberts

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Tue 12/11/07 01:42 AM
I think its interesting how most people can post witty quotes on this site yet have very little things to say logically.

KarlaofJackson's photo
Tue 12/11/07 01:58 AM
Edited by KarlaofJackson on Tue 12/11/07 01:59 AM
People will beleive in what they believe, but believing in God WILL give the peace and strength to get through the SH*T that this world dishes out! Let them believe!

no photo
Tue 12/11/07 06:39 AM

Hey i feel for you man, and i'm glad that you feel fulfilled that you found your grandparents graves. However, to say that you found them doesn't constitute that there is a God. "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin


Why would you only post half of that quote?


The Way to see by Faith, is to shut the Eye of Reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer when you put out your Candle.
- Benjamin Franklin

Dragoness's photo
Tue 12/11/07 07:10 AM
It is a personal preference. If you want to believe there is a god for you there is a god for you.

skot's photo
Tue 12/11/07 09:45 AM
I think it's funny to hear peope of religion try to talk logically about their beliefs. I didn't know there was more to that quote, thanks Spidercmb.

"Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer."
-- unknown

KarlaofJackson's photo
Tue 12/11/07 02:03 PM
I think it is funny that people that DON'T believe in God think that they need to convince people that DO, that they shouldn't. Why do you care?

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