Topic: Who Thinks Political Correctness Sucks?
blankpage's photo
Thu 12/20/07 04:17 PM
But it only limits statements that are of offense to people (not just the ones that the statements are in regards to and most of those statements are stereotypical and do nothing but promote untruths about certain groups of people.

(This is not aimed at you TOTAGE; just finishing expressing my opinion on the topic overall...) Sorry, but after the age of 5, you arent allowed to run around saying and doing whatever you want without consequence.
Political correctness is an attempt to cap blantent expressions of ignorance.


Mac60's photo
Thu 12/20/07 04:26 PM
Agreed blank. You also have to consider who is saying what. I know some old(very old) white men who still call blacks "colored". They don't mean any disrespect. They're just living 40-50 years in the past.

For the most part, PC is just manners and respect.

Totage's photo
Thu 12/20/07 04:38 PM
Manners and respect are one thing, PC is censorship.

Dictating what people can and cannot say is NOT free speech. Free speech is saying what you want to say, even if it offends others.

blankpage's photo
Thu 12/20/07 04:42 PM
Disagreed. I believe there has to be a cap on actions as well as words...
saying what you want and offending another person to a certain point is called HARASSMENT.
You are saying it is perfectly okay to do this to a large group in the name of free speech.

Totage's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:03 PM
No, I'm not saying harassment is ok at all.

I'm just saying that dictating what people can and can't say is not free speech. I think that PC is a form of censorship, and IMO, censorship is against free speech.

I don't think anyone has the right to harass people, but we do (or are supposed to) have the right to voice our opinions and expressions, regardless of how it may make someone else feel.

Of course, I think we should be considerate of others, respect and have manners, but we shouldn't have to limit our thoughts and expressions out of any kind of fear.

mbcasey's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:05 PM
This thread is still ice cold from being in the freezer!!laugh

PC--next thing you know PC will not be PC....

Totage's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:11 PM

PC--next thing you know PC will not be PC....


That's all I'm trying to say.

wouldee's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:21 PM
drinker bigsmile my PC is an HP Pavilion.

It works hard and hates windows but somehow I make it through.

Maybe it won't be a PC much longer if it doesn't straighten up!!


smokin

yokoke's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:28 PM

Maybe it won't be a PC much longer if it doesn't straighten up!!


smokin


so thats means downgrading to a 'mini-pc'??LOLlaugh

yokoke hands wouldee the sledgelaugh laugh

blankpage's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:28 PM
If you'll notice Un-pc statements usually cause upheavel of some sort. Backlash, public outcry. To avoid this, we have to impose limitations.
Can I have some specific examples of things that you are prevented from saying that you feel are hindering your first amendment rights? I'm curious as to whether there might be an alternate way of dealing with certain situations in which you feel derogatory remarks might be in order.
The first amendment is not all inclusive, slander/libel, treason, lying in a court of law are all prohibited. There are limitations, there need to be.

yokoke's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:30 PM

If you'll notice Un-pc statements usually cause upheavel of some sort. Backlash, public outcry. To avoid this, we have to impose limitations.
Can I have some specific examples of things that you are prevented from saying that you feel are hindering your first amendment rights? I'm curious as to whether there might be an alternate way of dealing with certain situations in which you feel derogatory remarks might be in order.
The first amendment is not all inclusive, slander/libel, treason, lying in a court of law are all prohibited. There are limitations, there need to be.


things may be prohibited in court but they do occur.....

JoshH's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:32 PM

IMO, it is used as a form of censorship to limit free speech.

there's no such thing as free speech....hasn't been for years....

blankpage's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:32 PM
Edited by blankpage on Thu 12/20/07 05:32 PM
Yokoke; just completely ignore the rest of the post, and miss the point...
no, really, it's fine.

Smokeythebear69's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:37 PM
Merry Christmas..OOOOPSnoway noway sorry...Happy Holidays to everyone..:tongue: sorry just wanted to add a little humor there....Hey Blank baby..:wink:

Totage's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:43 PM

Political correctness is where people change their words or behaviour to try to avoid causing offence but usually do not consult the people they are trying not to offend before taking this action which often leads to offence and upset in itself.

It leads people to sometimes say or do things which they know to be untrue or unnecessary, or not say or do things which they know to be true or necessary, as they are too afraid or embarrassed to be honest or commonsensical.

http://www.capc.co.uk/faqs.htm

Turtlepoet78's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:44 PM
I agree and disagree, if somebody gets offended over something trivial, like what Bill Mahr said about 9/11 on ABC, then oh well that's their problem. On the other hand sometimes things go too far & the feelings of groups of people need to be respected. A couple examples of things currently going, washington dc's nfl football team and the twenty dollar bill. The dc football teams name is a blatent racial slur and the twenty dollar bill holds the image of a man who butchered American indians, not to mention abolished the national bank & hated paper money. I don't think I want to see the aryan "brotherhood" preaching on my tele without a warning label. Censorship to a point is a good thing, drawing the line at what you say in private and speaking your opinion in a respectful mannor. It's not so black & white;^]

seahawks's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:45 PM
ahh fuk it hang m all.!!!!! lmao

Jtevans's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:45 PM
pretty soon you won't even be able to say Cheater,instead you'll have to say Monogamisly Challenged

Turtlepoet78's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:48 PM
Sumtimes they do get carried away with termenology, I don't understand why in mental health "clients" are now "consumers". I understand the transition from "lunatic" to "patient" to "client", but wow..lol;^]

Totage's photo
Thu 12/20/07 05:54 PM

Police order woman to take down joke sign
27 July 2006

A woman who has had a tongue-in-cheek sign outside her cottage for more than 30 years has been told by police to take it down because it is deemed a "hate crime" despite local Jehovah's Witnesses saying it didn't cause offence

The sign says, "Our dogs are fed on Jehovah's Witnesses" and was put up after Jehovah's Witnesses called on them repeatedly - even once on Christmas day.



http://www.capc.co.uk/ridiculous_political_correctness.htm