Topic: "Green" New Deal Not So Green
Dodo_David's photo
Wed 01/02/19 02:26 PM


That Green New Deal being promoted by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez happens to be a light shade of green.

From The Hill, 2 January 2019:

House Democrats have formally proposed creating a new committee on climate change, without many of the main factors that progressives wanted in the panel's structure. . . It also is not being explicitly charged with developing Green New Deal legislation, which supporters envision as bringing the county to 100 percent renewable electricity and decarbonizing major industries over 10 years, as well as a universal jobs guarantee and other ideas.


The key phrase in the above-quoted statement is "bringing the county to 100 percent renewable electricity and decarbonizing major industries".

Now, here is a statement from the Environmental Protection Agency's website:

"The transportation sector generates the largest share of greenhouse gas emissions."

Here is a graph from the same EPA website:



That proposed New Deal isn't very green if it excludes half of the greenhouse gases produced in the USA.

Then there is the part about doing it all within a 10-year time frame. That isn't feasible.

Also, that "universal jobs guarantee" that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wants has nothing to do with climate change.

Apparently, her New Deal is a just Socialist program with a green tint.

Wiser House Democrats rightfully reject the proposed New Deal as being too controversial.

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/02/19 04:37 PM
I would love to see what she actually proposed though, it sounds that ridding 1/4th is indeed a step to being MORE green, even if not COMPLETELY green.

I agree that universal jobs, IF it means paid work for everyone, is not how the economy is set. its actually MEANT for a certain percent to be unemployed, although many dont realize that. But she has little experience, and is starting at the bottom, where someone with that record should start. A way to learn through experience, in a position that allows growth and not too much individual say without colleagues.


IgorFrankensteen's photo
Wed 01/02/19 06:31 PM
Sooooo....are you claiming that any proposal that doesn't demand immediate reversal of 100% of all problematic behaviors, is meaningless and or a deception?

We aren't allowed to traverse a distance by taking steps towards a desired destination? We must leap only?


dust4fun's photo
Wed 01/02/19 07:42 PM
We used to dam rivers to collect the energy, but don't try that now because the environmentalists don't want to mess with the fish habitat so they want to remove all dams and repair it back to how it was. The windmills and solar farms are screwing up the migratory paths of birds so we can't do that. Nuclear is by far the best bet if done right, so we got to store some waste for a few million years, but due to some stupid accidents we can't do that any more. Every time someone comes up with something there is always someone there to shut it down, or regulations to stop it from happening. So until someone finds the magic bullet nothing will be resolved, certainly not in the next 10 years, it takes longer than that just to clear the paperwork.

Argo's photo
Wed 01/02/19 08:04 PM
it took a really long time before narrow-minded
people realized there was no edge to fall from..

"progress lies not in enhancing what is, but in
advancing toward what will be"....Kalil Gibron

dust4fun's photo
Wed 01/02/19 08:10 PM
Here's a solution that will cut the worlds greenhouse gases in half, get rid of half the people in the world. You may say that's a little extreme, but at the rate we are going we can eliminate half now or lose all later.

notbeold's photo
Wed 01/02/19 09:30 PM
Real greening has to start from the 'bottom' up.

No politician or banker is ever going to tell any industrialists to stop profiting by destroying the earth.

YOU ALL have to lead the way and set the trends so greedy politicians and others follow the markets (you).

Political parties and movements only care about one thing - gaining power/control. After that they only squabble among themselves for status, and don't care about their 'core values', and grandiose statements.

Don't believe the hype !

Daisy's photo
Sat 01/05/19 11:48 PM
Not enough done to keep it green

Rock's photo
Sun 01/06/19 09:39 AM
Cortez's training and education as education
as a bartender, certainly makes her/him an expert
on climate.