Topic: who else thinks we create our own reality?
I_love_bluegrass's photo
Mon 11/26/18 05:43 PM
Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Mon 11/26/18 05:45 PM




On the other hand, if you fail to imagine that someone could be wonderful, you wont ever look; and although the wonderful person really is there, you'll never bring them into your life, by recognizing them.




I actively imagine there are wonderful guys out there..
Problem is, they don't think *I* am wonderful...frown
It has to be mutual for it to work...


Bingo! Easy bluegrass... change your thinking about them not thinking you are wonderful. See those wonderful men or a wonderful man embracing you with a loving hug and accepting you exactly as you are... a wonderful person!

I speak to myself as well as to you, I can relate to your statement. By thinking there are men out there that aren't interested in me or that don't think I'm all that or wonderful, then I am attracting those exact ones into my life or noticing those particular ones, thus reinforcing my thought pattern... self fulfilling prophecy kind of thing.


Ummm..honey..it's NOT"thinking" they aren't interested or "self-fufilling"...
It's the replies I get when I message them...that they don't like fat women.....or I am "too far"....

Hope that clears it up..

P.S..as an example...Wrote a guy Saturday (different site)....he was from what I could read on his profile and see on his pictures just what i was looking for..was even into mid-centruy vintage stuff...:thumbsup:
So..I wrote him a cool message...had *high hopes*...really thought we'd be very compatible..
Nothing...crickets..
I see he *read* my message...but didn't reply..
Oh well.

technovative's photo
Mon 11/26/18 05:51 PM


Studies such as The Global Consciousness Project have compiled substantial evidence, suggesting that when large numbers of people focus their thoughts and emotions on the same thing, it produces a measurable non-random effect.


The Global Consciousness Project has been debunked.


Thanks for posting an alternative view.

I'm more inclined to favor the compelling data collected during a long term study conducted by folks with academic credentials, over the sarcastic dismissive claims of a "skeptoid" podcaster.

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Mon 11/26/18 05:53 PM



Ummm..honey..it's NOT"thinking" they aren't interested or "self-fufilling"...
It's the replies I get when I message them...that they don't like fat women.....or I am "too far"....

Hope that clears it up..

P.S..as an example...Wrote a guy Saturday (different site)....he was from what I could read on his profile and see on his pictures just what i was looking for..was even into mid-centruy vintage stuff...:thumbsup:
So..I wrote him a cool message...had *high hopes*...really thought we'd be very compatible..
Nothing...crickets..
I see he *read* my message...but didn't reply..
Oh well.


Oh! Yes that clears it up, my mistake. Well I hope things turn around for you.



Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 11/26/18 05:56 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
Negative thinking focuses on negative things and positive thinking focuses on positive things.

If your world is full of turmoil and strife, start noticing all the GOOD THINGS that happen everyday. Proclaim them "That's a GOOD THING!" and ignore the negative stuff unless it absolutely needs your attention.

I find now, that my 'world' is no longer full of bad things out to get me. I can finally see the good things in life because I make an effort to notice them now.
Those good things were always there, I just ignored them so I could focus on the 'problems'. I was feckin miserable all the time. Now, not so much.

What I figured out is that I was causing my discontent without realizing it. Because I was focused on negative things. Bad things still happen, I'm just better able to deal with them now that my head is on right.
Just reminded of this today by someone here in these forums, thanx again for the wake-up.

In and of itself, we do determine our future by how we deal with the past in the present. Its a choice and I choose to be content.

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Mon 11/26/18 05:56 PM
Yes and no. I can't walk through a wall, even if I think I can. But maybe my spirit can.
I believe in the interconnectedness of all things. But unfortunately, we are kept divided, by our fear.
I believe the essence of a happy life, is when your unconscious desires are manifested into your conscious reality and fulfilled. But our dreams are often stolen. Our wishes are perverted, and we seek for things by proxy.
For example, I would like my family to be safe and happy. But to do that I need money. So then the energy from your true objective is stolen. But then I fear, that the money will be stolen. Thus money which we believe makes us secure, in fact divides us, and makes us fearful.

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Mon 11/26/18 06:05 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again...
Negative thinking focuses on negative things and positive thinking focuses on positive things.

If your world is full of turmoil and strife, start noticing all the GOOD THINGS that happen everyday. Proclaim them "That's a GOOD THING!" and ignore the negative stuff unless it absolutely needs your attention.

I find now, that my 'world' is no longer full of bad things out to get me. I can finally see the good things in life because I make an effort to notice them now.
Those good things were always there, I just ignored them so I could focus on the 'problems'. I was feckin miserable all the time. Now, not so much.

What I figured out is that I was causing my discontent without realizing it. Because I was focused on negative things. Bad things still happen, I'm just better able to deal with them now that my head is on right.
Just reminded of this today by someone here in these forums, thanx again for the wake-up.

In and of itself, we do determine our future by how we deal with the past in the present. Its a choice and I choose to be content.


:thumbsup: Exactly, I agree. When I'm thinking positively and have inner peace, my outward world goes a lot smoother and I see positive things in life and the beauty. I see the other stuff as well, but it's not the center of my focus. When I'm thinking negative or about everything that could possibly go wrong, it generally does go wrong all around me.

I choose to be happy and content as well :thumbsup: smile2

mzrosie's photo
Mon 11/26/18 06:21 PM

I've come across this idea a number of times. After trying several different approaches to dealing with it, i'm at the point where I think the best answer is, that it's very complicated and subtle.

Right off the bat, both of the extreme SIMPLE answers have proven to be wrong. The extreme simple answers are

1." It's all bunk."

2." It's all magic."

When I tried the second answer (because I was with a woman who claimed to fervently believe that we each and all LITERALLY created our entire existence, on a moment to moment basis), it was a complete disaster. Mainly because the way SHE used the idea, was to declare that since we create our own reality, anything that went wrong while SHE was having a good time, must be MY fault.

But still, I saw then, and still do see today, a seemingly endless parade of people with success stories, or who proclaim that they know the secret to success in life, and that that key is to do things like...

"Believe in yourself, believe in your vision, believe in your ability to succeed, and that belief will give you the drive to actually succeed."

That's the most common admonition we all get from those who want everyone to work hard, and craft life with their own hands. But it's already more than half the distance to the extreme of believing in magic.

I have found that no, just thinking about something, just visualizing it, doesn't cause it to come into being.

I have also found that thinking about something in a different way, in an involved way, in an active way, does cause my perceptions to change. I see things which were always there, but that I never noticed, because I wasn't aware enough. Because I hadn't thought into the subject deeply and thoroughly enough.

By now, I believe that no, you can't WILL anything to become as you wish it to be. It's not the way everything works. "Everything," a.k.a. the universe, doesn't work that way. However, it ALSO isn't as simple as what goes up must come down, or that only direct action gets results.

Reality is a collective aggregate of all manner of things, beings, feelings, ideas, space, and on and on, all rushing through time and being changed by whatever the hell time actually IS. And just as there are physical and real reasons why rivers flow in the funny back and forth, winding or churning, seemingly random back actually rigidly obeying all the laws of motion and gravity and density...so too, our lives, and our existence is subject to, as well as a cause, of all sorts of turns and flows and eddies and so on in our, and in other people's' lives.

So no. Life is NOT all rocks and hammers and nails and dirt and so on, and nothing more. And no, it's not all unicorns and happy endings, and acts of human mental will, either.

If you fail to imagine that the pavement exists, when you jump from a high place, you'll find that the pavement is there, nonetheless.

On the other hand, if you fail to imagine that someone could be wonderful, you wont ever look; and although the wonderful person really is there, you'll never bring them into your life, by recognizing them.

So yes, your life DOES VERY MUCH depend on your thoughts and beliefs. But no, you can't think your way out of a real paper bag, you have to mechanically get it off.


I like this reply very much. It makes sense. Thanks, Igor. flowerforyou

When I was young my father used to take me to watch American movies and I thought that was where I would want to live. I now live in Canada.. close enough. But if I did not go to the Canadian Consulate and apply for immigration, that would not have happened. So it was not enough to think about it, one must do something to make it come about.

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SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Tue 11/27/18 02:02 AM


do we shape our future with thought


We can influence what is to happen if we act on our thoughts.
The thoughts themselves don't do anything.

That's not true. Your thoughts go hand in hand with feelings and a specific energy. That energy attracts or repels. And by focusing what you think -and thus feel- you can then begin to attract what you want. The only thing is, you cannot fake it. You cannot pretend, the Universe reacts to the energy you exude, not words.

Read or listen to some Abraham Hicks. It's not so difficult to understand.
Everything is energy, you, me, your thoughts and anything you could possibly want.

The talk of love or sex is BS as that involves another person. Everyone has free will and you cannot take that away. If you do we're talking black magick.
But you could manifest love more easily if you do the focus work.

notbeold's photo
Tue 11/27/18 06:29 AM
If I've been creating my own reality, I have been doing an awful job of it. ohwell
And I'm sorry to all my creations for their pain and suffering by my hand. oops
But I may have created my own reality. :

About 30 years ago I saw a nice older checkout chic at the auto parts store across town, and I thought - hmmmmmm nice. tongue2
About 10 years later she was a colleague's girlfriend, and having spent time with her I thought 'I want a girlfriend a bit like her'.
Many years later we met again as singles, and from then we were partners for many years. She died.

Did I send the first signal to initiate the insanely complicated chain of events to get us together ?
Did I subconsciously move the infinitesimal chess pieces of the arena around myself, like a god.
Did I just notice key moments in a logical timeline of natural significant events, and accept it as reality.
Did my brain string separate memorable fuzzy memories together to fabricate a storyline containing a series of events congruent with the belief/suspicion that I created it, and caused it all to happen.
what

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Tue 11/27/18 07:28 AM

If I've been creating my own reality, I have been doing an awful job of it. ohwell
And I'm sorry to all my creations for their pain and suffering by my hand. oops
But I may have created my own reality. :

About 30 years ago I saw a nice older checkout chic at the auto parts store across town, and I thought - hmmmmmm nice. tongue2
About 10 years later she was a colleague's girlfriend, and having spent time with her I thought 'I want a girlfriend a bit like her'.
Many years later we met again as singles, and from then we were partners for many years. She died.

Did I send the first signal to initiate the insanely complicated chain of events to get us together ?
Did I subconsciously move the infinitesimal chess pieces of the arena around myself, like a god.
Did I just notice key moments in a logical timeline of natural significant events, and accept it as reality.
Did my brain string separate memorable fuzzy memories together to fabricate a storyline containing a series of events congruent with the belief/suspicion that I created it, and caused it all to happen.
what

Most people do an awful job at it, so you're not alone.
This is because most people don't know that they can create their own reality. Quite logical, as until quite recently we didn't have the freedom to do what we wanted.
We had to step in our father's footsteps and do the work he did, we had to marry someone and remain married even if we got to hate them. We had to have babies otherwise the priest would come by your house to ask questions and so on.

Now we have freedom, not a 100% just yet as the old systems will still have to let go and FO, but we can now choose who we marry, choose to have children or not, choose to divorce, choose what work we want to do, choose what style of clothes and hair we want and so on.

And what do we do? We moan and whinge and nag. This is not working out, that is not working out, this isn't to my liking, that isn't either.
Then what do you want? I don't know... For things to be offered on a silver platter?
That CAN happen but YOU have to be ready for that to happen!
Being negative repels positive, positive repels negative. Meaning if you attract negative, YOU exude negative.
You can change what you attract by changing what you exude.
But of course that requires some effort, the effort to be happy and joyful, and for most people that is too much work.
They want the results they want, THEN they'll be happy.
Does't work that way.
You have got to be happy, THEN you'll get the results you want.

Very much like whinging there are no nice people. Thing is, if you're in a room being a chagrined piece of you-know-what, the nice people will avoid you. Plenty of nice people, but they're looking for other nice people, not a whinging f@rt.
When you're negative you're not a match for positive. That goes for things you desire as well as people.
You create your reality.
And no, you don't get to decide when someone passes over, including you. You do get to decide how you deal with it.
You can honour the person by treasuring the time you had together and the glorious memories, or you can not honour them by not doing dealing with it that way.
Ending is part of life. The second we were conceived it was 100% certain we would die. At some point.
Usually we do choose that time too btw, but that is before incarnating.

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Tue 11/27/18 08:26 AM
Good example of the energy we put off and what it attracts to us...

Last night I posted a thread asking men how they feel about being pursued and this morning the initiating 101 thread.

Since then I've gone out in public and ran across pretty much the same people I do every morning, only this morning several of them went out of their way to say hello!

And here in Mingleland... my daily average of messages has already doubled and it's only 9:30am.

Positive energy has no barriers... nor does negative. Which would you rather emanate out into the world...

I choose positive drinker

JustBeHonest's photo
Tue 11/27/18 10:33 AM
Ok I’m not really sure what to believe. People tell me not to think or talk negatively because that’s why so many negative things have happened in my life.

But, I started thinking negatively because so many negative things happened in my life before I ever started thinking that way.

Now, I really try hard to think positively as much as I can and I still have negative things happen all the time. I’m talking big stuff not like spilling your drink.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Tue 11/27/18 11:54 PM

Ok I’m not really sure what to believe. People tell me not to think or talk negatively because that’s why so many negative things have happened in my life.

But, I started thinking negatively because so many negative things happened in my life before I ever started thinking that way.

Now, I really try hard to think positively as much as I can and I still have negative things happen all the time. I’m talking big stuff not like spilling your drink.

Optimism doesn't work for some people.

Sometimes when you are not in control of yourself and have the wrong information and not enough resources, optimism may seem to be futile.
However, pessimism nearly always yields negative outcomes.

My existence for most of my life was full of negative things plaguing me.
I once had my waterbed heater quit, my washing machine quit and the fridge stopped working all in the same week. Then once I got everything fixed or replaced, another set of things happened causing more strife.
Most of my life was filled with putting out fires that cropped up in other places. Never ending. Till...

I started taking control of my life. I started thinking positive and stopped worrying. My 'clear' thinking allowed me to plan for things so not so many unexpected things happened.

Since I didn't really change anything except my thinking, I am positive those changes happened because I made them happen.
Things still happen that are bad but they don't control me like they did in my past.
I am better equipped to handle the problems that do occur because I can think of positive solutions without being hampered by my negativity.
Plus, I am no longer unconsciously sabotaging myself with inaction or wrong actions.

One thing I don't understand about some people is the fact that they will argue or side with negativity. I was one of those people that tried to defend my negativity till I learned optimism. Now I wonder what the hell I was thinking because it makes no sense?
Its like saying I will smash my hand with a sledgehammer and like it.

I_love_bluegrass's photo
Wed 11/28/18 02:36 AM

Ok I’m not really sure what to believe. People tell me not to think or talk negatively because that’s why so many negative things have happened in my life.

But, I started thinking negatively because so many negative things happened in my life before I ever started thinking that way.

Now, I really try hard to think positively as much as I can and I still have negative things happen all the time. I’m talking big stuff not like spilling your drink.


This ^

Again..if it worked for ~everybody~..then those people who buy lottery tickets and are already planning the wonderful things they'll do with the money..they'd win..
(me personally, I'd only need a small amount of it, and the rest...man..what wonderful things I could do to make other people's live happier)
Don't give me that crap about "wrong reasons"....
Positive thinking either *works*, or it doesn't.

Here's the thing *everyone* needs to remember..

If you just got religion, and think it is the greatest thing ever and why doesn't ~everyone else ~ just *see* this....pushing it on people..telling people whio didn't ask for your oipinion or judgementalness that they are wrong/ living wrong if they'd only just *see*....thats's disresepctful..

*IF* someone sees you living a happy, fufilling life (be it religion or postive thinking)..and asks how you mange to be so prosperous/ happy...THEN that is a door opening to tell them..
Not just opinionate on other people and their lives.

No one likes ex smokers or reformed alcohilics preaching at them....or yammering on & on about how much better their life is since they quit x,y, or z...

You got something someone wants...they'll ask you about it...let it be known by you "fruits" (evidence).
Not by telling people how they're doing it all wrong if they didn't ask...or, worse..if they tried to quit using whatever method *you* did, and it didn't work for them..
That doesn't mean they are failures..or just didn't "get" it...or need to try harder..
They may simply need to try a different method.

It's about respecting that everyone is different...had a different life and experiences, and everyone doesn't process things the same way.



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Wed 11/28/18 04:53 PM
Amen to that bluegrass

Tom4Uhere's photo
Thu 11/29/18 01:02 AM
Again..if it worked for ~everybody~..then those people who buy lottery tickets and are already planning the wonderful things they'll do with the money..they'd win.

There's something fundamentally wrong with that thinking.
Its not an effective example of positive thinking at all.
Positive thinking is not a quest or a method to a specific end.
Its the ability to rearrange thinking so positive things stand out.
That is not going to make you win a lottery.

Positive thinking works at an inner level of consciousness.
Its not going to make bad things go away.
Bad things will still happen but positive thinking allows you to have a different take on the conditions.
Sometimes that different take on things allows you to make positive change when you would normally negatively react.

When I get bad news from my doctor about my condition, it wasn't because positive thinking failed. My positive thinking allows me to effectively deal with that bad news.

What works for some may not work for others.
Everyone is their own person.
However, in an open forum, relating what works for me might allow someone else to consider it and might find the same results.
If anyone is dead set to think negatively, by all means, find your own contentment any way you can.
But, if what you're currently doing is not giving you the results you want, then you might try other methods if you know about them.

I've tried religion.
I've tried AA 'higher power' thinking.
Those things didn't work for my contentment.
I relate what worked for my contentment as a consideration if what you're doing right now isn't working.
Personally, I don't care what you do.
Be well, citizen.

I_love_bluegrass's photo
Thu 11/29/18 07:43 AM

Again..if it worked for ~everybody~..then those people who buy lottery tickets and are already planning the wonderful things they'll do with the money..they'd win.

There's something fundamentally wrong with that thinking.
Its not an effective example of positive thinking at all.
Positive thinking is not a quest or a method to a specific end.
Its the ability to rearrange thinking so positive things stand out.
That is not going to make you win a lottery.

Positive thinking works at an inner level of consciousness.
Its not going to make bad things go away.
Bad things will still happen but positive thinking allows you to have a different take on the conditions.
Sometimes that different take on things allows you to make positive change when you would normally negatively react.

When I get bad news from my doctor about my condition, it wasn't because positive thinking failed. My positive thinking allows me to effectively deal with that bad news.

What works for some may not work for others.
Everyone is their own person.
However, in an open forum, relating what works for me might allow someone else to consider it and might find the same results.
If anyone is dead set to think negatively, by all means, find your own contentment any way you can.
But, if what you're currently doing is not giving you the results you want, then you might try other methods if you know about them.

I've tried religion.
I've tried AA 'higher power' thinking.
Those things didn't work for my contentment.
I relate what worked for my contentment as a consideration if what you're doing right now isn't working.
Personally, I don't care what you do.
Be well, citizen.


As I *said*..what works for you (the *generic* YOU) may not work for the next person/ someone else.
I was merely pointing out that those people (in *any* format..real life, chat rooms, *whatever) that come at people with "if they would only *see*.."..*that* is disresptful.

I wasdn't referring to relting one's experiences, nothing wrong with that all ALL.
(and yes, someone may read something someone posted about their life/ expereince and go "hmm..never thought of that..."..
Which is a *good* thing.

But the people who imply someone either didn't try hard enough, did it wrong, don't want to be happy, etc..*that* is disrespectful.

Not everyone like sports or country music or whatever..and just because *you* ( again, the *generic* YOU) think it's FAB and don't understand how others can't...we humans are complex and different creatures...one size does not fit all..

Sorry if you misunderstood.


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Thu 11/29/18 10:06 PM
I like the way T.E.Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia) put it;

"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible."

This wonderfully emphasizes that with a positive approach you may create a reality to fit your dreams.

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Tom4Uhere's photo
Thu 11/29/18 11:13 PM
who else thinks we create our own reality?

Because all reality is viewed from my own perspective, it is the reality I create.
The world according to Tom.
Nobody else lives behind my eyes.
I do not live behind anyone else's eyes either.
Your world is the world according to you.

Thru our communication with each other, we attempt to describe the reality that we experience with each other.
Sometimes we are effective and sometimes not.

When a writer writes a story they are attempting to tell you a different reality as they imagine it. As the reader, we get lost in the story and imagine that fantasy reality as it could be if the writer is effective.

Some of our realities over-lap. We call these over-lapping realities facts. Recognizing the reality that is fact allows us to assemble our own reality so it works for us. How we 'see' things.

Sometimes, despite the facts, we 'see' a different reality than others.
A lot of failed relationships involve the personal reality where the other person is the one that did wrong. The facts are there but they have a different, created reality that is factual but inaccurate in some way. It takes both to make a relationship and break a relationship.

When reality is inaccurate, it is known as a delusion.
The problem is, people don't know when they are deluded.
However, once the delusion is lifted, it is nearly impossible to be re-deluded about the same thing.

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Fri 11/30/18 05:46 AM
Haven't read everything as it is quite a lot, but the lottery thing is interesting.
The reason people don't win the lottery is because they have a not-positive vibration concerning money in their vibration.
I think the concept of positive thinking is misinterpreted here. It's not acting it is a state of being. So if you think positive things, but deep down inside don't feel positive, then what you exude is negative and the Universe will answer that.

Almost everyone has negative beliefs concerning money, abundance, prosperity and being successful. The ones who don't are the ones who are successful in life.
These beliefs go back real far, are embedded in our genetic make-up even as not just us, but also our parents, our grandparents, great grandparents and so on had those beliefs. It's past on energetically but also with the stories that are being told in families.
"Look at him with all his money! He must be laundering money/selling drugs/ripping people off/.../"
"Hard work gets you money."
And other daft things you get told by your parents when you're dreaming about a yacht, a posh car, or becoming a famous rockstar.
Most people deep down don't believe they deserve abundance. Logical as almost everyone has problems with self-esteem.

Now all the positive thinking in the world isn't going to help you if you don't feel positive, are positive. Law of attraction responds to your energy.

That's why affirmations can be pretty futile and they can even work against you if the gap between what you believe and that affirmation is big. Then it only triggers feelings of lack, not having what you want as opposed to lifting you up.

So... if you are thinking positive thoughts and things are still not working out, you know you are not positive in energy. If you were, things would be working out for you.
Basically it's not the positive thinking that counts, it's having a positive vibration. Positive thoughts are a result of that. If you are merely mimicking a result without having the root (vibration) it is not going to work.
flowerforyou