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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower.
Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. |
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yes,that is one of the sources I got some of my information from,but there are LOTS MORE articles on this subject all over the internet if you care to google it,so it is impossible to just claim that it is only liberal sources,like NPR, that are claiming this. |
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What information did the Russians provide for Trump?
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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. if shooting someone in central park won't cause his followers to bat an eye, and that was HIS assessment of them, which may be on the short list of things he is honest about ,,, what's a little back office negotiations with Russia gonna mean? nada. Many of those who are supporting him are dogged determined to support him NO MATTER WHAT. Politics, its the WHO, and not the WHAT. |
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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. if shooting someone in central park won't cause his followers to bat an eye, and that was HIS assessment of them, which may be on the short list of things he is honest about ,,, what's a little back office negotiations with Russia gonna mean? nada. Many of those who are supporting him are dogged determined to support him NO MATTER WHAT. Politics, its the WHO, and not the WHAT. |
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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. if shooting someone in central park won't cause his followers to bat an eye, and that was HIS assessment of them, which may be on the short list of things he is honest about ,,, what's a little back office negotiations with Russia gonna mean? nada. Many of those who are supporting him are dogged determined to support him NO MATTER WHAT. Politics, its the WHO, and not the WHAT. that is an ironically HILARIOUS thing for someone to claim,considering that trump has lied more in his FIRST MONTH in office than Obama did in 8 years,or any democrat EVER has!!  |
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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. if shooting someone in central park won't cause his followers to bat an eye, and that was HIS assessment of them, which may be on the short list of things he is honest about ,,, what's a little back office negotiations with Russia gonna mean? nada. Many of those who are supporting him are dogged determined to support him NO MATTER WHAT. Politics, its the WHO, and not the WHAT. that is an ironically HILARIOUS thing for someone to claim,considering that trump has lied more in his FIRST MONTH in office than Obama did in 8 years,or any democrat EVER has!! Obama - 1500+ verified lies Trump - 0 verified lies |
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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. if shooting someone in central park won't cause his followers to bat an eye, and that was HIS assessment of them, which may be on the short list of things he is honest about ,,, what's a little back office negotiations with Russia gonna mean? nada. Many of those who are supporting him are dogged determined to support him NO MATTER WHAT. Politics, its the WHO, and not the WHAT. that is an ironically HILARIOUS thing for someone to claim,considering that trump has lied more in his FIRST MONTH in office than Obama did in 8 years,or any democrat EVER has!! Obama - 1500+ verified lies Trump - 0 verified lies LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that post is so HILARIOUSLY FALSE that it doesn't deserve any rebuttal... only RIDICULE!!!! |
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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. if shooting someone in central park won't cause his followers to bat an eye, and that was HIS assessment of them, which may be on the short list of things he is honest about ,,, what's a little back office negotiations with Russia gonna mean? nada. Many of those who are supporting him are dogged determined to support him NO MATTER WHAT. Politics, its the WHO, and not the WHAT. that is an ironically HILARIOUS thing for someone to claim,considering that trump has lied more in his FIRST MONTH in office than Obama did in 8 years,or any democrat EVER has!! Obama - 1500+ verified lies Trump - 0 verified lies LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that post is so HILARIOUSLY FALSE that it doesn't deserve any rebuttal... only RIDICULE!!!! |
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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. if shooting someone in central park won't cause his followers to bat an eye, and that was HIS assessment of them, which may be on the short list of things he is honest about ,,, what's a little back office negotiations with Russia gonna mean? nada. Many of those who are supporting him are dogged determined to support him NO MATTER WHAT. Politics, its the WHO, and not the WHAT. I support people who support people, political labels do not determine my support. |
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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. if shooting someone in central park won't cause his followers to bat an eye, and that was HIS assessment of them, which may be on the short list of things he is honest about ,,, what's a little back office negotiations with Russia gonna mean? nada. Many of those who are supporting him are dogged determined to support him NO MATTER WHAT. Politics, its the WHO, and not the WHAT. that is an ironically HILARIOUS thing for someone to claim,considering that trump has lied more in his FIRST MONTH in office than Obama did in 8 years,or any democrat EVER has!! Obama - 1500+ verified lies Trump - 0 verified lies LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that post is so HILARIOUSLY FALSE that it doesn't deserve any rebuttal... only RIDICULE!!!! where is your source for 'verified lies' of Obama? I bet amongst the cited references, I can find plenty of Trumps 'verified lies' as well. saying there is zero is an insane alternative fact to throw out there. |
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Y'know, if Trump admits to breaking the law, why is he still POTUS?
Arguments are moot. The election is illegal and Trump should go to jail. What part of "admitted to a crime" is not understood? The crime invalidates not only the election but all those officials associated with Trump's win. |
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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. if shooting someone in central park won't cause his followers to bat an eye, and that was HIS assessment of them, which may be on the short list of things he is honest about ,,, what's a little back office negotiations with Russia gonna mean? nada. Many of those who are supporting him are dogged determined to support him NO MATTER WHAT. Politics, its the WHO, and not the WHAT. that is an ironically HILARIOUS thing for someone to claim,considering that trump has lied more in his FIRST MONTH in office than Obama did in 8 years,or any democrat EVER has!! Obama - 1500+ verified lies Trump - 0 verified lies LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that post is so HILARIOUSLY FALSE that it doesn't deserve any rebuttal... only RIDICULE!!!! where is your source for 'verified lies' of Obama? I bet amongst the cited references, I can find plenty of Trumps 'verified lies' as well. saying there is zero is an insane alternative fact to throw out there. http://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/Obama as of this writing. https://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/false/ Trump is somewhere over 2000 false or misleading statements. Obama, Somewhere around 80 in the whole 8 years he was prez. In one sense of the word it doesn't matter. A lie is a lie no matter who tells it. But Trump does tell some whoppers. |
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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. if shooting someone in central park won't cause his followers to bat an eye, and that was HIS assessment of them, which may be on the short list of things he is honest about ,,, what's a little back office negotiations with Russia gonna mean? nada. Many of those who are supporting him are dogged determined to support him NO MATTER WHAT. Politics, its the WHO, and not the WHAT. that is an ironically HILARIOUS thing for someone to claim,considering that trump has lied more in his FIRST MONTH in office than Obama did in 8 years,or any democrat EVER has!! Obama - 1500+ verified lies Trump - 0 verified lies LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that post is so HILARIOUSLY FALSE that it doesn't deserve any rebuttal... only RIDICULE!!!! where is your source for 'verified lies' of Obama? I bet amongst the cited references, I can find plenty of Trumps 'verified lies' as well. saying there is zero is an insane alternative fact to throw out there. http://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/Obama as of this writing. https://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/false/ Trump is somewhere over 2000 false or misleading statements. Obama, Somewhere around 80 in the whole 8 years he was prez. In one sense of the word it doesn't matter. A lie is a lie no matter who tells it. But Trump does tell some whoppers. Thank you. I figure there are plenty similar sources. Because our definition of 'lie' can include misspeaking, being misinformed, and even unfulfilled goals, I find it seriously nonsense to claim there is anyone in politician with 'zero' lies, 'verified' or otherwise. |
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I don't care who dug up dirt on who as long as our country is heading in the right direction.
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opposition research is fine if its not DIRECTLY from a foreign national as opposed to a RESEARCH agency based in the USA.
A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. The statute in question is 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510 |
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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. if shooting someone in central park won't cause his followers to bat an eye, and that was HIS assessment of them, which may be on the short list of things he is honest about ,,, what's a little back office negotiations with Russia gonna mean? nada. Many of those who are supporting him are dogged determined to support him NO MATTER WHAT. Politics, its the WHO, and not the WHAT. that is an ironically HILARIOUS thing for someone to claim,considering that trump has lied more in his FIRST MONTH in office than Obama did in 8 years,or any democrat EVER has!! Obama - 1500+ verified lies Trump - 0 verified lies LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that post is so HILARIOUSLY FALSE that it doesn't deserve any rebuttal... only RIDICULE!!!! where is your source for 'verified lies' of Obama? I bet amongst the cited references, I can find plenty of Trumps 'verified lies' as well. saying there is zero is an insane alternative fact to throw out there. |
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Y'know, if Trump admits to breaking the law, why is he still POTUS? Arguments are moot. The election is illegal and Trump should go to jail. What part of "admitted to a crime" is not understood? The crime invalidates not only the election but all those officials associated with Trump's win. I think THAT is one of the reasons why trump has been denying that it happened so rabidly,and so often... because it invalidates his win,and means that he really lost the election to Hillary,and is NOT the true president of the united states,even if he IS the one holding the office. I don't know if anything can be done about that,at this point,though,since we are dealing with uncharted territory that has never happened before in the entire 242 year history of this country,short of declaring a constitutional crisis,and letting the supreme court decide. [minus the justice[s] that trump appointed,of course!] |
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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. if shooting someone in central park won't cause his followers to bat an eye, and that was HIS assessment of them, which may be on the short list of things he is honest about ,,, what's a little back office negotiations with Russia gonna mean? nada. Many of those who are supporting him are dogged determined to support him NO MATTER WHAT. Politics, its the WHO, and not the WHAT. that is an ironically HILARIOUS thing for someone to claim,considering that trump has lied more in his FIRST MONTH in office than Obama did in 8 years,or any democrat EVER has!! Obama - 1500+ verified lies Trump - 0 verified lies LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that post is so HILARIOUSLY FALSE that it doesn't deserve any rebuttal... only RIDICULE!!!! where is your source for 'verified lies' of Obama? I bet amongst the cited references, I can find plenty of Trumps 'verified lies' as well. saying there is zero is an insane alternative fact to throw out there. trump has lied more in his FIRST MONTH in office than Obama did in 8 years, or any democrat EVER has!! ___________________________________________________________________ I'm curious too Shovelhead, can you back up that statement up or was it just something you threw out there with no facts behind it. |
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opposition research is fine if its not DIRECTLY from a foreign national as opposed to a RESEARCH agency based in the USA. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. The statute in question is 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510 |
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