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hmm, and I thought someone said they look at things from a logical perspective and leave emotions out of it.... msharmony hang on a sec Ms.Harmony as I get my kleenex out as Im a bit emotional, Im wiping tears from my eyes...sniff sniff.... anyways, who said I was emotional, I presented my opinion using logic. Why should a transgender person be allowed in the military? by the way are we talking post op or pre op? I should have asked that question first. Welfare system today is a joke and full of fraud, do you deny that? And why does your people ( the left) bring up Trump's past and excuse other leaders for their past? I dont understand the double standards? |
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We are at the best unemployment rate in 20 years. Employers are crying for workers. first time in my life that i've heard employers cheer on a lower number of unemployed people....they are crying alright, and it's because they are going to have to raise wages in order to keep employees working for them...gone are the days when workers asked for a raise and the boss said."No way, be happy with what you're getting, there are 100 more in line ready to take your place...guess what ? the line is empty now I quit, I'm going to your competitor he's paying more and the benefits are better than yours too.....seeya |
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1. Trump is not doing anything to change the trend of black unemployment, it has BEEN declining for a while before he came into office but it is STILL maintaining the same disparity of being twice that of Whites. ____________________________________________________________________ Why does he have to? Does he have to monitor the unemployment rate of Asian, Legal Latino's, whites, American Indians, ect, ect.? Why should he spend extra time working on getting blacks to get off their a*s and work. Isn't that the parents job? We are at the best unemployment rate in 20 years. Employers are crying for workers. If you would read the context of what is being written, you could see I never said or implied that Trump 'has to' do something about unemployment. I responded to the implied context that he should get some credit for some perceived improvement in the black unemployment rate. The economy and the culture play as much if not more of a part in unemployment rate and discrepancies than any President or politician can do alone. The unemployment rate, at any given time, can be compared to another time in terms of rate. When Obama was president, for instance, in 2016, the claim could also have been made accurately that the rate was 'as low as its been in years' Unemployment was not so much the point, as disputing the notion that blacks should not disapprove of Trump merely because of the unemployment rate having been lower than 'in years'. |
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here's a point to ponder... if Roseanne Barr had made a single derogatory statement towards Trump or his administration...he would be calling her a fat, no talent has-been whose ratings were never as good as his.. in that same vein, if lobbyists for renewable energy had ponied up more money and sweetheart deals for him, you can bet your last dollar Trump would be dropping the big coal & oil industries interests like a bad habit... Trump doesn't care who pays, just as long as he gets his 2 scoops of ice cream and everyone else at his table profusely profess their gratitude to him for allowing them to have their half-portion.. he's a sell-out who will flip or flop for the best deal again, JMO Hopefully you will get to like him over the next 6 and a half years as well as Pence the following 8 years. 
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hmm, and I thought someone said they look at things from a logical perspective and leave emotions out of it.... msharmony hang on a sec Ms.Harmony as I get my kleenex out as Im a bit emotional, Im wiping tears from my eyes...sniff sniff.... anyways, who said I was emotional, I presented my opinion using logic. Why should a transgender person be allowed in the military? by the way are we talking post op or pre op? I should have asked that question first. Welfare system today is a joke and full of fraud, do you deny that? And why does your people ( the left) bring up Trump's past and excuse other leaders for their past? I dont understand the double standards? Again, context is important when using logic. the reason WHY transgenders should be allowed is irrelevant when discussing WHY transgenders and the LGBTQ may not be fans of Trump. I do deny that welfare is a joke or full of fraud. IT is a system with flaws that some people abuse, like EVERY system in this country. My people are not the left or the right. I speak for myself. You will have to ask someone who does what is mentioned and ask them why they do it. |
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Again, context is important when using logic. the reason WHY transgenders should be allowed is irrelevant when discussing WHY transgenders and the LGBTQ may not be fans of Trump. I do deny that welfare is a joke or full of fraud. IT is a system with flaws that some people abuse, like EVERY system in this country. My people are not the left or the right. I speak for myself. You will have to ask someone who does what is mentioned and ask them why they do it..... msharmony no, you made the claim they should be allowed and it is irrelevant, why should they be allowed, now are we talking pre op or post op. Now the reason why I say they shouldn't be allowed is because it can disrupt a unit, they have a lot to think about and these guys and gals in the unit are very family like and has each other back. I dont think a lot of the soldiers would be very accommodating to the transgender person so for me its a safety issue not a political or personal decision so you believe the welfare system is fine the way it is and all system has flaws... rightttttttttttt And you wonder why the system is flawed in the first place and why nothing can or will be done. |
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Again, context is important when using logic. the reason WHY transgenders should be allowed is irrelevant when discussing WHY transgenders and the LGBTQ may not be fans of Trump. I do deny that welfare is a joke or full of fraud. IT is a system with flaws that some people abuse, like EVERY system in this country. My people are not the left or the right. I speak for myself. You will have to ask someone who does what is mentioned and ask them why they do it..... msharmony no, you made the claim they should be allowed and it is irrelevant, why should they be allowed, now are we talking pre op or post op. Now the reason why I say they shouldn't be allowed is because it can disrupt a unit, they have a lot to think about and these guys and gals in the unit are very family like and has each other back. I dont think a lot of the soldiers would be very accommodating to the transgender person so for me its a safety issue not a political or personal decision so you believe the welfare system is fine the way it is and all system has flaws... rightttttttttttt And you wonder why the system is flawed in the first place and why nothing can or will be done. This is becoming an unpleasant trend. THis is EXACTLY what I POSTED: 2. Trump has made an enemy of many in the LGBTQ community because of his support for Christian business owners to use discretion in their services and his attempt to ban Trans from military. please explain where I gave an opinion about what I think he 'should' do? And yes, people are flawed so all the systems people have in place will have flaws, its inescapable. But people still have the tendency and obligation to try to make things the BEST they can, understanding that complete perfection is not going to happen, we try to get as close to it as we can though, which is why things are and will still be 'done' to improve upon the way things are. |
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he's like a rat trying to escape a sinking ship in the middle of the ocean...busy laying the ground work in case he loses control of the house or senate in the mid-terms.. planting the seed by acknowledging Russian interference is a *real threat* but this time they want the democrats to win, even though Putin admitted he wanted Trump to be voted in...Captain Flipflopper is going down with the ship..  here's an answer/solution...how about NOT starting trade war and bragging about how easy it is to win one ? |
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Imagine if Trump compared his golf game to "special olympics" oh the press would have a field day saying Trump is a bigot towards Special olympics athletes....oh wait Trump didn't , Obama did... imagine my shock Imagine if it was Trump that lifted sanctions on Iran? you would be calling for his head on a platter and calling for Congress to impeach him. Imagine if Trump released dangerous Terrorists from Guantanamo bay? Imagine if Trump appeared on ESPN to talk about his March Madness Picks? Imagine if Trump called young black youths "super predators" The left whined and shouted from the Mountain top, Trump's dad was present in some Klan rally even though Trump's old man was never a klansman, and the left said Trump didn't disavowed the klan, meanwhile Has he embraced any former Klansman like Robert Byrd, oh what was Hillary. Imagine... if i could offer 7 different deflections towards someones personal opinion, which incidentally have nothing to do with with the opinion, why i suppose i could be elected "King of Smug" or something...idk, if I only could imagine... |
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Its becoming an unpleasant thread because its uncomfortable to you
Its not unpleasant for me and most people of the right who are on here because we like to discuss ideas and other people's opinions. I don't know Trump's reason for not wanting Transgender people in the military, but for me its a safety issue for the trans person. I guess I care about all lives not just certain lives. I Know a few military people guys and gals and Ive asked them their opinion and they didn't think it was a good idea. I should say on the battle field, because the military is made up of different departments so I should clarify that a trans person on the battle field isn't a good idea. Military intelligence, officer school, engineering should be open to all including trans and LGBTQ folks. |
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Imagine... if i could offer 7 different deflections towards someones personal opinion, which incidentally have nothing to do with with the opinion, why i suppose i could be elected "King of Smug" or something...idk, if I only could imagine... argo63 imagine me offering my own opinion, like you did imagine that? its just my opinion, not fact. |
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Imagine... if i could offer 7 different deflections towards someones personal opinion, which incidentally have nothing to do with with the opinion, why i suppose i could be elected "King of Smug" or something...idk, if I only could imagine... argo63 imagine me offering my own opinion, like you did imagine that? its just my opinion, not fact. i quoted 1 person in this thread (Greeneyes) and my opinion was germane to what he said about unemployment figures..without deflecting to other issues... you on the other hand, quote my opinion offering several unrelated deflections....so i quoted you to call you out on it, it seems you have a habit of doing that quite a bit... Imagine, just giving your opinion...and if you want to quote someone, then don't deflect from what they are talking about.. can you imagine doing it that way instead ?? |
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Its becoming an unpleasant thread because its uncomfortable to you Its not unpleasant for me and most people of the right who are on here because we like to discuss ideas and other people's opinions. I don't know Trump's reason for not wanting Transgender people in the military, but for me its a safety issue for the trans person. I guess I care about all lives not just certain lives. I Know a few military people guys and gals and Ive asked them their opinion and they didn't think it was a good idea. I should say on the battle field, because the military is made up of different departments so I should clarify that a trans person on the battle field isn't a good idea. Military intelligence, officer school, engineering should be open to all including trans and LGBTQ folks. the right blah blah, the left blah blah  I understand why some people support it and some people do not. I stated simply why those IN THE LGBTQ may be at opposition to such a policy and therefore not be fans of Trump. |
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any party or group who is on the wrong side of a decision is going to be offended, that is just life.
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We are at the best unemployment rate in 20 years. Employers are crying for workers. first time in my life that i've heard employers cheer on a lower number of unemployed people....they are crying alright, and it's because they are going to have to raise wages in order to keep employees working for them...gone are the days when workers asked for a raise and the boss said."No way, be happy with what you're getting, there are 100 more in line ready to take your place...guess what ? the line is empty now I quit, I'm going to your competitor he's paying more and the benefits are better than yours too.....seeya Well.. yeah, that is a workers market. Which we are in right now. And that is a reflection of the business climate and the growth.. both good things. And I am in business and yes, I have to pay my men more but guess what.. I am making much more money too.. everyone is. I do not know of one business owner in manufacturing, logistics or construction who is complaining right now. Companies are expanding, investing in machinery and equipment and investing in people too and spending money.. all of which feeds the economy. Don't know how it is where you are business is booming on the North East. |
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i quoted 1 person in this thread (Greeneyes) and my opinion was germane to what he said about unemployment figures..without deflecting to other issues... you on the other hand, quote my opinion offering several unrelated deflections....so i quoted you to call you out on it, it seems you have a habit of doing that quite a bit... Imagine, just giving your opinion...and if you want to quote someone, then don't deflect from what they are talking about.. can you imagine doing it that way instead ?? argo63 I imagine so. |
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any party or group who is on the wrong side of a decision is going to be offended, that is just life. that can be true of any side, it can also be true that those who are the victims of offensive or oppressive policies, laws, or decisions might be offended. |
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Edited by
Toodygirl5
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Thu 07/26/18 04:06 PM
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Celebration of 800 new jobs at the reopen of plant !
WCIA 3 But tariffs are hurting Farmers !!! They're complaining. |
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Personal attacks again close a thread.
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