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Topic: Be Real and be true
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Sun 07/08/18 07:59 AM
Edited by cozi12 on Sun 07/08/18 08:03 AM
:wink: Honesty is always the best Policy!

cozi12's photo
Sun 07/08/18 08:03 AM
Being Real and True is the best way to be!

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Sun 07/08/18 09:44 AM
Absolutely.

Funny thing I found, is that it actually takes a lot of work, for someone to be real. You have to do all sorts of stuff, and make mistakes, just to find out who and what you really are. And then, you have to work up the faith or courage, to live by all you learn.




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Sun 07/08/18 09:54 AM

Absolutely.

Funny thing I found, is that it actually takes a lot of work, for someone to be real. You have to do all sorts of stuff, and make mistakes, just to find out who and what you really are. And then, you have to work up the faith or courage, to live by all you learn.






So very true!

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Sun 07/08/18 09:59 AM
For people who have morals and decent values being true, real and honest is just a way of life.

for those who are immoral they dont understand what it means to be real and true or honest.


Sad isn't it?

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Sun 07/08/18 11:06 AM
I have morals, but I have always felt the terms 'real and true' to be kind of silly when discussing a human being that exists, and by definition are already 'real' and 'true'

honest,,, is a different issue however.

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Sun 07/08/18 11:13 AM
except that real and true as it applies to romance is what is being talked about.

of course we are all real, but some folks are not real or honest with their intentions

A man stringing along a woman just for sex is a real person, but his intentions are not real.

A woman stringing along a man because he has money is a real person but her intentions are not real.

A person who is true to themselves are far and few between, eg, I'm a conservative and I espouse conservative values , if I meet an attractive woman who happens to be a leftist and I pretend I'm a leftist just to date her am I being dishonest ?

what happens if we start dating, am I compromising my principles?




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Sun 07/08/18 11:17 AM
seems too either/or for me ...

people are complex, they can simultaneously like some things and not others, and they usually come together on things they share regardless of what things they may not

Id say if one is PRETENDING to believe something they dont really believe, they are being dishonest, beyond that, political labels really have no place in dating or principles ... IMHO...

Riverspirit1111's photo
Sun 07/08/18 02:58 PM
OT... I agree with the OP, honesty is the best policy.

msharmony's photo
Sun 07/08/18 02:58 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 07/08/18 02:59 PM
agreed

honesty tempered with compassion

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Sun 07/08/18 03:01 PM
so who doesnt agree honesty isnt the best policy

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Sun 07/08/18 03:19 PM

agreed

honesty tempered with compassion



I agree msharmony, I want someone to be honest with me even if it's going to hurt. But I would hope they'd do so in a compassionate way.


Riverspirit1111's photo
Sun 07/08/18 03:20 PM
Do you believe sometimes that honesty isn't the best policy gears? Can you explain why if so?

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Sun 07/08/18 03:33 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Sun 07/08/18 03:33 PM
True! However, online that is questionable!

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Sun 07/08/18 03:39 PM



biggrin You're welcome!

Do you believe sometimes that honesty isn't the best policy gears? Can you explain why if so?


On a few things River, for example if your girlfriend slaved all day in the kitchen to prepare something nice for you dinner and it isnt good, you wont say its crap or awful you smile and say thank you hun, next time Im going to take you out somewhere special and do something for you as your reaching for the bottle of pepto bismol.

Or if she feeling under the weather and looks like death warmed her over and she isnt wearing make up , you dont say hey you look like sh-t , you grab her by her hand sit her down beside you look her in the eyes and tell her you love her and ask her what can I do for you as you're recovering.

those kind of things are an example

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Sun 07/08/18 04:05 PM
Do you believe sometimes that honesty isn't the best policy gears? Can you explain why if so?


On a few things River, for example if your girlfriend slaved all day in the kitchen to prepare something nice for you dinner and it isnt good, you wont say its crap or awful you smile and say thank you hun, next time Im going to take you out somewhere special and do something for you as your reaching for the bottle of pepto bismol.

Or if she feeling under the weather and looks like death warmed her over and she isnt wearing make up , you dont say hey you look like sh-t , you grab her by her hand sit her down beside you look her in the eyes and tell her you love her and ask her what can I do for you as you're recovering.

those kind of things are an example


If I slave all day in the kitchen making you a meal, I would rather you not say it taste like "crap", that's not necessary or nice. However, I wouldn't want you to pretend that you like it either. My spending the entire day in the kitchen would be for the soul reason of pleasing you and if you eat it and act like you enjoy it.... Then I will happily prepare that meal for you again... Best be honest and tell me what you prefer so I can feel better about spending the day cooking for you.

Being honest doesn't have to be rude... and if you love someone or care about them, then you won't be rude when speaking the truth. If she is sick you can just as easily say "I see you don't feel well"... then take her hand and have her lay down while you care for her.

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Sun 07/08/18 04:39 PM


If I slave all day in the kitchen making you a meal, I would rather you not say it taste like "crap", that's not necessary or nice. However, I wouldn't want you to pretend that you like it either. My spending the entire day in the kitchen would be for the soul reason of pleasing you and if you eat it and act like you enjoy it.... Then I will happily prepare that meal for you again... Best be honest and tell me what you prefer so I can feel better about spending the day cooking for you.

Being honest doesn't have to be rude... and if you love someone or care about them, then you won't be rude when speaking the truth. If she is sick you can just as easily say "I see you don't feel well"... then take her hand and have her lay down while you care for her.


See what I mean River, one is damned if they speak the truth or damned if they dont.

I cannot tell someone that the meal is crap, that would hurt their feeling, unless there is a nicer way of saying it that wouldn't hurt their feelings, Im all ears or eyes in this case.

as in when she doesn't feel that is exactly what I would do and have done.

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Sun 07/08/18 04:47 PM
Edited by Riverspirit1111 on Sun 07/08/18 04:49 PM



If I slave all day in the kitchen making you a meal, I would rather you not say it taste like "crap", that's not necessary or nice. However, I wouldn't want you to pretend that you like it either. My spending the entire day in the kitchen would be for the soul reason of pleasing you and if you eat it and act like you enjoy it.... Then I will happily prepare that meal for you again... Best be honest and tell me what you prefer so I can feel better about spending the day cooking for you.

Being honest doesn't have to be rude... and if you love someone or care about them, then you won't be rude when speaking the truth. If she is sick you can just as easily say "I see you don't feel well"... then take her hand and have her lay down while you care for her.


See what I mean River, one is damned if they speak the truth or damned if they dont.

I cannot tell someone that the meal is crap, that would hurt their feeling, unless there is a nicer way of saying it that wouldn't hurt their feelings, Im all ears or eyes in this case.

as in when she doesn't feel that is exactly what I would do and have done.


I know, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. I've found asking in advance helps. I've made a meal a couple times only to discover the guy didn't like it. He had to finally speak up because I was going to make it again, lol.

Communication is important and can help to solve those kind of situations. Hopefully by time she cooks for you, you will have talked about the foods you like and what you don't like.

Turn it around... suppose you cooked something she didn't like. How would you want her to handle it with you?


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Sun 07/08/18 04:57 PM
Me personally, stuff like this wouldn't hurt my feelings, Ive made dishes and Ive said to her be honest, and she had told she doesn't like it, and I laughed it off .

But that is me, not much bugs me or offends me .


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Sun 07/08/18 05:03 PM

Me personally, stuff like this wouldn't hurt my feelings, Ive made dishes and Ive said to her be honest, and she had told she doesn't like it, and I laughed it off .

But that is me, not much bugs me or offends me .




Same with me when it comes to cooking food for a man. My goal is to make him happy, so if he doesn't like it, then obviously he's not happy. I'd rather know so I can make his favorite dish or something he doesn't need pepto for.

Past experience taught me to let him know it's okay to be honest because if he says he likes it, it will definitely be served again. So if you don't like spinach, you best tell me! laugh

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