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The newest film, “The First Purge,” is a prequel that explains the Purge’s origins, with Staten Island as the test case. DeMonaco said he wanted to stress how evil ideas could be sold if the media and public are not critical enough, and in the film, cable news obliges, airing highlights as if it’s the NFL RedZone channel of mass murder. It also emphasizes that the psychology behind the concept was specious from the start, and that the agenda was always to eliminate the lower class.
Is America that close to state-sanctioned killing? Some say it’s already happening in some minority communities. Dozens of unarmed black males have been killed by police over the last three years. The inadequate federal response to Hurricane Maria led directly or indirectly to the deaths of as many as 4,000 civilians, by some estimates — all of them Puerto Rican. And the government perpetrates other forms of dehumanization, especially of immigrants. The president discusses immigration using a word — “infest” — that suggests a comparison with vermin. Parents crossing the border seeking asylum have their children taken from them. Flint, Mich., still does not have clean water, and black Americans have the same life expectancy as white Americans did in the 1980s. The Purge also depicts an America hostile to the poor. A June United Nations report stated that the United States had become “a champion of inequality” and that the Republican-sponsored tax cuts would make the situation worse. Proposed legislation to repeal the Affordable Care Act and cut Medicaid (the health care program for low-income and disabled Americans) could leave millions without health care. (While the repeal failed last year, some Republicans are considering another approach, excluding the act’s guarantee of coverage of preexisting conditions.) Many poor people are thrown in jail due to their inability to pay fines of a few hundred dollars. It is a contempt for certain segments of society that might not be a night of murder but is a gradual destruction of life, fueling “deaths of despair” in some areas. https://www.yahoo.com/news/coming-country-near-nightmare-world-james-demonacos-purge-171603928.html |
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Edited by
tombraider
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Fri 07/06/18 08:01 AM
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Oooo semantics..the thing I find interesting is the use of words to draw the average person towards a certain meaning from these words more commonly known by the average person in order to breed discord..impressive and yet not, for those who have the ability to see that which makes things sound worst than the other meanings these words represent..I guess it depends on what side of the fence one sits on that brings the average reader to draw a conclusion in the direction that one is covertly attempting. One using the word purge (remove) for the average brings them to the thought of the movie..lol nice try..doesn't work here..or "infest" as a reference to vermin when it also means to invade or overwhelm I guess that direction was not as covert..got to love the wordsmiths...  ..too bad it doesn't work here...but by all means keep trying
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Oooo semantics..the thing I find interesting is the use of words to draw the average person towards a certain meaning from these words more commonly known by the average person in order to breed discord..impressive and yet not for those who have the ability to see that which makes things sound worst than the other meanings these words represent..I guess it depends on what side of the fence one sits on that brings the average reader to draw a conclusion in the direction that one is covertly attempting. One using the word purge (remove) for the average brings them to the thought of the movie..lol nice try..doesn't work here..or "infest" as a reference to vermin when it also means to invade or overwhelm I guess that direction was not as covert..got to love the wordsmiths... ..too bad it doesn't work here...but by all means keep trying Very well said friend. Seriously, it was exactly what I was thinking when I read it. You picked both words that was intended to be focused upon, purge and infest. |
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Oooo semantics..the thing I find interesting is the use of words to draw the average person towards a certain meaning from these words more commonly known by the average person in order to breed discord..impressive and yet not, for those who have the ability to see that which makes things sound worst than the other meanings these words represent..I guess it depends on what side of the fence one sits on that brings the average reader to draw a conclusion in the direction that one is covertly attempting. One using the word purge (remove) for the average brings them to the thought of the movie..lol nice try..doesn't work here..or "infest" as a reference to vermin when it also means to invade or overwhelm I guess that direction was not as covert..got to love the wordsmiths... ..too bad it doesn't work here...but by all means keep trying come now, it works here EVERY DAY. (choosing the words that paint the bias intended) |
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I've watched the Purge films and this new one holds no appeal to me because the concept is pure fantasy and makes absolutely no sense.
It is pure dystopian science fiction, the science part is unrealistic assessment of social order. The concept is broken at every level of consideration. It presumes too much. People, in general, do not have an urge to kill their neighbors. People, in general, seek unity They have compassion and enjoy order. Trying to make a comparison of real social dynamics from dystopian fantasy is ridiculous. I would be more cautious of someone thinking The Purge films could be accurate than the fact that such a film series exists. Next thing you know, someone will be trying to say the SAW series is based on actual tendencies. Its fiction, pure fiction. |
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Edited by
tombraider
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Fri 07/06/18 09:50 AM
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Come on now Ms.H sure this country has it's issues and while a lot of it's problems are brought on by the incompetence or the nefarious deeds of those who should have never been put in power over the past decades. I know you probably spend a lot of time on the internet as I do digging for the truth,I just can't believe that we sit on the opposite sides of the fence on some of these more important issues. If these people want to live in a better country than they should stand up and fight for it the same way we did..and all these asylum seekers are being taught what to say in order to gain entry into our country, not necessarily about asylum.I know you can see what the next hopeful president of Mexico has in mind.He wants to take back part of the U.S and regain it for Mexico ..how do you think that will work out.. Now the issues of cops killing unarmed people do you honestly think it's some sort of agenda or just merely incompetence.I guess it can be whatever we want I vote for the latter.As far as a purge of vermin well that's what we are trying to do but not at the border but in Washington..brought on by past administrations. This is a time in my opinion for healing and uniting against those who would destroy the country from within..enough of the puppet masters who use main stream media to bring about discord in order to divert the attention from themselves.. All will be made clear in the not so distant future and from what I have been uncovering it's going to be a helluva show..popcorn at the ready.. But as we are who we are we hold true to our beliefs,but as one can see the AWAKENING is happening and with the technology we have at our fingertips we can now view things better with EYES WIDE OPEN..people just need to do the research and quit listening to the Globalists owned main stream media...what letter is that ..Q... WWG1 WGA We Are ANONYMOUS We Are Legion |
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I've watched the Purge films and this new one holds no appeal to me because the concept is pure fantasy and makes absolutely no sense. It is pure dystopian science fiction, the science part is unrealistic assessment of social order. The concept is broken at every level of consideration. It presumes too much. People, in general, do not have an urge to kill their neighbors. People, in general, seek unity They have compassion and enjoy order. Trying to make a comparison of real social dynamics from dystopian fantasy is ridiculous. I would be more cautious of someone thinking The Purge films could be accurate than the fact that such a film series exists. Next thing you know, someone will be trying to say the SAW series is based on actual tendencies. Its fiction, pure fiction. While I agree the movie is obviously fiction. the message of how a basic lack of compassion and animosity toward 'lower' classes can be easily manipulated into something much worse is not so far off ... imho. the first step, make people less 'human' , less 'deserving', paint them as a threat to what others feel they 'earned or deserve' I think it is easily reflected in the history of Hitler, where people probably would have never thought themself capable of doing such a thing ... I like to think people are not capable, but history hasn't panned that theory out. |
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I've watched the Purge films and this new one holds no appeal to me because the concept is pure fantasy and makes absolutely no sense. It is pure dystopian science fiction, the science part is unrealistic assessment of social order. The concept is broken at every level of consideration. It presumes too much. People, in general, do not have an urge to kill their neighbors. People, in general, seek unity They have compassion and enjoy order. Trying to make a comparison of real social dynamics from dystopian fantasy is ridiculous. I would be more cautious of someone thinking The Purge films could be accurate than the fact that such a film series exists. Next thing you know, someone will be trying to say the SAW series is based on actual tendencies. Its fiction, pure fiction. While I agree the movie is obviously fiction. the message of how a basic lack of compassion and animosity toward 'lower' classes can be easily manipulated into something much worse is not so far off ... imho. the first step, make people less 'human' , less 'deserving', paint them as a threat to what others feel they 'earned or deserve' I think it is easily reflected in the history of Hitler, where people probably would have never thought themself capable of doing such a thing ... I like to think people are not capable, but history hasn't panned that theory out. |
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Now, if you want a movie series that does show the human condition, watch some Godzilla movies.
Everyone wants to do some city stomping, breathe fire and terrorize the countryside. |
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I've watched the Purge films and this new one holds no appeal to me because the concept is pure fantasy and makes absolutely no sense. It is pure dystopian science fiction, the science part is unrealistic assessment of social order. The concept is broken at every level of consideration. It presumes too much. People, in general, do not have an urge to kill their neighbors. People, in general, seek unity They have compassion and enjoy order. Trying to make a comparison of real social dynamics from dystopian fantasy is ridiculous. I would be more cautious of someone thinking The Purge films could be accurate than the fact that such a film series exists. Next thing you know, someone will be trying to say the SAW series is based on actual tendencies. Its fiction, pure fiction. While I agree the movie is obviously fiction. the message of how a basic lack of compassion and animosity toward 'lower' classes can be easily manipulated into something much worse is not so far off ... imho. the first step, make people less 'human' , less 'deserving', paint them as a threat to what others feel they 'earned or deserve' I think it is easily reflected in the history of Hitler, where people probably would have never thought themself capable of doing such a thing ... I like to think people are not capable, but history hasn't panned that theory out. the message of how a basic lack of compassion and animosity toward 'lower' classes can be easily manipulated into something much worse is not so far off Its obvious you and I do not exist in the same reality. I do see compassion and caring for the less fortunate among us. While there are examples of some people that are not compassionate and caring, most everyone I know and meet does care about the plight of others. Plus, our welfare system is proof of compassion and caring for the less fortunate, even tho some people abuse the system. In THIS country, when a disaster strikes, everyday people act with compassion and care to help strangers and not just the strangers in our own country. Feed the children, save the whales, help Guatemala earthquake victims and so on. Charity is big business and people participate for their own reasons but the fact remains, charity exists. Compassion exists. Hell, even in the Purge films it shows compassion. I find it sad that anyone could think the Purge films have truth of nature in them. That is a pessimistic mindset and certainly is not healthy for self-esteem or contentment. |
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Edited by
Tom4Uhere
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Fri 07/06/18 09:49 AM
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Judge Dredd is another unrealistic fantasy where one person can be judge, jury and executioner. It does make for fun entertainment but that's all.
"All is fair in love and war" is not accurate. All is NOT fair in love and war. Even in war there are things one can not do. There are boundaries, just like in love. Its these boundaries that make humans civilized. The fact that nobody deploys neutron bombs is part of being civilized. A neutron bomb is the most efficient way to win a war. It ends life but leaves structures intact (except in the blast area). This allows the victor to enjoy the spoils without need for humanitarian efforts. They are illegal by consensus. Because we are civilized and all is not fair in love and war. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 07/07/18 03:06 AM
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I've watched the Purge films and this new one holds no appeal to me because the concept is pure fantasy and makes absolutely no sense. It is pure dystopian science fiction, the science part is unrealistic assessment of social order. The concept is broken at every level of consideration. It presumes too much. People, in general, do not have an urge to kill their neighbors. People, in general, seek unity They have compassion and enjoy order. Trying to make a comparison of real social dynamics from dystopian fantasy is ridiculous. I would be more cautious of someone thinking The Purge films could be accurate than the fact that such a film series exists. Next thing you know, someone will be trying to say the SAW series is based on actual tendencies. Its fiction, pure fiction. While I agree the movie is obviously fiction. the message of how a basic lack of compassion and animosity toward 'lower' classes can be easily manipulated into something much worse is not so far off ... imho. the first step, make people less 'human' , less 'deserving', paint them as a threat to what others feel they 'earned or deserve' I think it is easily reflected in the history of Hitler, where people probably would have never thought themself capable of doing such a thing ... I like to think people are not capable, but history hasn't panned that theory out. the message of how a basic lack of compassion and animosity toward 'lower' classes can be easily manipulated into something much worse is not so far off Its obvious you and I do not exist in the same reality. I do see compassion and caring for the less fortunate among us. While there are examples of some people that are not compassionate and caring, most everyone I know and meet does care about the plight of others. Plus, our welfare system is proof of compassion and caring for the less fortunate, even tho some people abuse the system. In THIS country, when a disaster strikes, everyday people act with compassion and care to help strangers and not just the strangers in our own country. Feed the children, save the whales, help Guatemala earthquake victims and so on. Charity is big business and people participate for their own reasons but the fact remains, charity exists. Compassion exists. Hell, even in the Purge films it shows compassion. I find it sad that anyone could think the Purge films have truth of nature in them. That is a pessimistic mindset and certainly is not healthy for self-esteem or contentment. again, I divert to HISTORY, the Holocaust, Slavery, Native American genocide,,,,, etc,,,, it would be pessimistic to think that it HAS to come to that, it is realistic however to believe that it CAN Jews were seen as a threat and a scurge, Africans were seen as less than human, native americans were seen as 'savages' ... it has always started with minimalizing the value of the lives of certain groups ... it has not ALWAYS ended in extremes, but it has always STARTED There..... |
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Judge Dredd is another unrealistic fantasy where one person can be judge, jury and executioner. It does make for fun entertainment but that's all. "All is fair in love and war" is not accurate. All is NOT fair in love and war. Even in war there are things one can not do. There are boundaries, just like in love. Its these boundaries that make humans civilized. The fact that nobody deploys neutron bombs is part of being civilized. A neutron bomb is the most efficient way to win a war. It ends life but leaves structures intact (except in the blast area). This allows the victor to enjoy the spoils without need for humanitarian efforts. They are illegal by consensus. Because we are civilized and all is not fair in love and war. neutron bombs are not specific enough when we are talking a demographic of people within a nation ... self preservation is more likely a large motivation to why governments and cultures choose to forego that option ... |
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You do realize you are defending an insanity mindset, right?
Do you actively choose to think negative or is it beyond your control? Yes, there is plenty of decadence in the human condition. Yes, the Purge films do depict a dystopian mindset. There are a lot of films like that. Have a look at the Rampage films. Not the new one with The Rock (it is a pretty fun film tho) I'm referring to the Rampage films about Bill Williamson. Rampage (2009) Rampage: Capital Punishment (2014)(originally titled Rampage: You End Now) Rampage: President Down (2016) My point is, A person chooses to see the world around them in certain ways based on their expectations. Its a choice to see the negative or see the positive. Where you might see the Purge films as one possible scenario, I see them as an impossible scenario. I see the world as civilized and that civilization has boundaries that will not be crossed because of values and morals. Contrary to pessimistic beliefs our present civilization is not dystopian or heading toward dystopia. Its not utopian either, its in the middle. Are some people twisted, certainly. As insane as society seems sometimes, there is no way it would tolerate Purge mentality. Compassion still defines us. I suggest some diversity. Consider the source. If the only opinions you read are from people on dating website forums it may seem like people are twisted, rude, crude and narcissistic. If you saturate yourself with media, you are being bombarded with manipulative strategies designed to keep you confused and out of balance. Negative mindset is a reaction to the stimuli exposed. People are being taught to have a negative mindset. People with a positive mindset are threats to the power structure. This is because they are more apt to look for solutions to their problems rather than dwell on negative things. I know this because I spent most of my adult life in a negative mindset. I had to actively choose to change how I look at things. I had to shut off the TV feed, stop watching newscasts that are full of opinions and start looking for positive things. Now I see good things all around me. It doesn't mean I ignore the negative, I just refuse to focus on them. I know that I have no power to change many problems myself, right now. I control what I have the power to control and let everything else go. I hope you find your serenity. |
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This morning on hln they showed a video of a guy punching a waitress. He gave her a concussion. Another waitress pulled on gun on him. He should be put in prison for 20 years and made to work.
They showed another video of women who were beating a woman at a red light. These kinds of people are animals. I wonder how America can get back to being a decent place to live. We have a gang out of Atlanta breaking into cars. They've caught 4 of them. |
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I wonder how America can get back to being a decent place to live. I dunno bout you or anyone else but I have seen other countries and I think the United States is a great place to live. |
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You know I have been watching what has been happening to Trump supporters being attacked and then there's Mad Maxine who in my opinion should be fired and while some would say "it's because she's black" could not be farther from the truth ..what is wrong with these people have they lost their minds or what ..have they been so zombified by the MSM that they no longer think logically and rationally..some of these people are seriously showing a major lack of intelligence..it absolutely makes no sense to me..and it's becoming quite dangerous..all I can say is if you wear a MAGA hat make sure you're also packing..because ya might just need it in order to cull the pile..unbelievable |
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I think it's depends on where you live. An elderly lady was attacked at Wal-Mart just a few days ago. She was asked for money. She was going to give them some money but they attacked her when she reached for her purse.
Our prisons are overflowing and we have more needing to be there. I live outside of ATL to avoid the crime but it has found it's way here. We need tougher penalties for the people who act like animals. Our country is too focused on problems in other countries. We have robbing, raping, murder here. We have kids being sold as sex slaves.etc. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 07/07/18 09:17 AM
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You do realize you are defending an insanity mindset, right? Do you actively choose to think negative or is it beyond your control? Yes, there is plenty of decadence in the human condition. Yes, the Purge films do depict a dystopian mindset. There are a lot of films like that. Have a look at the Rampage films. Not the new one with The Rock (it is a pretty fun film tho) I'm referring to the Rampage films about Bill Williamson. Rampage (2009) Rampage: Capital Punishment (2014)(originally titled Rampage: You End Now) Rampage: President Down (2016) My point is, A person chooses to see the world around them in certain ways based on their expectations. Its a choice to see the negative or see the positive. Where you might see the Purge films as one possible scenario, I see them as an impossible scenario. I see the world as civilized and that civilization has boundaries that will not be crossed because of values and morals. Contrary to pessimistic beliefs our present civilization is not dystopian or heading toward dystopia. Its not utopian either, its in the middle. Are some people twisted, certainly. As insane as society seems sometimes, there is no way it would tolerate Purge mentality. Compassion still defines us. I suggest some diversity. Consider the source. If the only opinions you read are from people on dating website forums it may seem like people are twisted, rude, crude and narcissistic. If you saturate yourself with media, you are being bombarded with manipulative strategies designed to keep you confused and out of balance. Negative mindset is a reaction to the stimuli exposed. People are being taught to have a negative mindset. People with a positive mindset are threats to the power structure. This is because they are more apt to look for solutions to their problems rather than dwell on negative things. I know this because I spent most of my adult life in a negative mindset. I had to actively choose to change how I look at things. I had to shut off the TV feed, stop watching newscasts that are full of opinions and start looking for positive things. Now I see good things all around me. It doesn't mean I ignore the negative, I just refuse to focus on them. I know that I have no power to change many problems myself, right now. I control what I have the power to control and let everything else go. I hope you find your serenity. You do realize you are defending an insanity mindset, right? Do you actively choose to think negative or is it beyond your control? I am not 'defending' anything by acknowledging it exists. I dont choose to think negative. but I also dont choose to IGNORE that negative is there. Refusing to see it is what helps it gain traction, looking the other way as if nothing could possibly go wrong. I have serenity, in BALANCE. Its not all bad, but its not all good either. |
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You know I have been watching what has been happening to Trump supporters being attacked and then there's Mad Maxine who in my opinion should be fired and while some would say "it's because she's black" could not be farther from the truth ..what is wrong with these people have they lost their minds or what ..have they been so zombified by the MSM that they no longer think logically and rationally..some of these people are seriously showing a major lack of intelligence..it absolutely makes no sense to me..and it's becoming quite dangerous..all I can say is if you wear a MAGA hat make sure you're also packing..because ya might just need it in order to cull the pile..unbelievable IM curious why Maxine should be fired? What has she said in her position thats ANY worse than the things the POTUS himself has said? |
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