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Edited by
QwicherBytchin
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Christians will never admit that they are acting "holier than thou" because they truely believe what they are saying and doing is commissioned by Jesus himself... to spread the "good news" of his sacrifice for our sins on the cross and his ressurection. If that means showing us the "sinners" that they believe we are and telling us how much we need "saving" then that's what they'll do. They truely believe they are on a mission from God himself to help spread the gospel of the saving grace of Jesus. Otherwise, they might stand before their God at judgement day and he (God) will question why weren't they faithful and tell the gospel story to everyone they encountered especially "Sally, Jane, and Joe?" They don't want to stand before their God on judgement day with blood on their hands. That's why they are holier than though and they will never admit to it. We are supposed to tolerate them because they are right, we are wrong, and unless we convert, we are going to hell, and they are going to heaven. Lady, I appreciate your input into this thread, but aren't you doing exactly what you're accusing christians of doing? |
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Christians will never admit that they are acting "holier than thou" because they truely believe what they are saying and doing is commissioned by Jesus himself... to spread the "good news" of his sacrifice for our sins on the cross and his ressurection. If that means showing us the "sinners" that they believe we are and telling us how much we need "saving" then that's what they'll do. They truely believe they are on a mission from God himself to help spread the gospel of the saving grace of Jesus. Otherwise, they might stand before their God at judgement day and he (God) will question why weren't they faithful and tell the gospel story to everyone they encountered especially "Sally, Jane, and Joe?" They don't want to stand before their God on judgement day with blood on their hands. That's why they are holier than though and they will never admit to it. We are supposed to tolerate them because they are right, we are wrong, and unless we convert, we are going to hell, and they are going to heaven. Lady, I appreciate your input into this thread, but aren't you doing exactly what you're accusing christians of doing? Please enlighten me. What exactly am I doing? Now before you answer that let me say that I'm speaking from experience, not just as someone who'se been belittled and attacked by Christians, but as someone who was once a Christian and was doing the belittling and attacking. I used to be one of those "holier than thou" Christians. Now, please, enlighten me. |
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Edited by
LadyValkyrie37
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Sun 12/02/07 09:43 PM
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I know I'm off track here, but I have to disagree with one statement in here. "I know that even sounded bad but if you look at it in our shoes we believe that there is a higher power and he loves everyone and even people that do believe in God but are sinners we feel sorry for because we know they have no chance to go to heaven" God forgives our sins. Because we sin does not me we won't get to walk in heaven. Ok you may disagree but I was always taught that if you sinned you had to ask forgiveness again. It's not like you can become a christian ask forgiveness for your sins then go kill someone and go to heaven if your saying that then you need to open your bible. Being a christian does not give you the right to sin but should keep you from it. I am not saying christians don't sin but true christians ask forgiveness if they do. But now you're getting to specific sins. Like murder. But we are human and we sin daily. The smoker, the drinker, the person who curses or speeds or writes a bad check. God forgives us for our sins even when we don't ask on a daily basis or ask to be forgiven for a specific sin. I'd have to beg forgiveness continuously for my constant impure thoughts. ;) What you two are arguing about is "once saved always saved" verses "saved but can back slide" which is just another one of those doctrinal issues that have been up for debate between Christian denomination forever and a day. Neither side ever wins the arguement because they both feel that they are right and the other is wrong. Around and around we go, where the doctrinal merry-go-round stops no one knows. |
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Christians will never admit that they are acting "holier than thou" because they truely believe what they are saying and doing is commissioned by Jesus himself... to spread the "good news" of his sacrifice for our sins on the cross and his ressurection. If that means showing us the "sinners" that they believe we are and telling us how much we need "saving" then that's what they'll do. They truely believe they are on a mission from God himself to help spread the gospel of the saving grace of Jesus. Otherwise, they might stand before their God at judgement day and he (God) will question why weren't they faithful and tell the gospel story to everyone they encountered especially "Sally, Jane, and Joe?" They don't want to stand before their God on judgement day with blood on their hands. That's why they are holier than though and they will never admit to it. We are supposed to tolerate them because they are right, we are wrong, and unless we convert, we are going to hell, and they are going to heaven. Lady, I appreciate your input into this thread, but aren't you doing exactly what you're accusing christians of doing? Please enlighten me. What exactly am I doing? Now before you answer that let me say that I'm speaking from experience, not just as someone who'se been belittled and attacked by Christians, but as someone who was once a Christian and was doing the belittling and attacking. I used to be one of those "holier than thou" Christians. Now, please, enlighten me. I would gladly share with you what I was trying to say, but it appears to me that you are rather defensive and argumentative. I don't wish to argue. I was giving my opinion to the topic at hand. With that, Lady, you may attack me as you wish. =) |
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Christians will never admit that they are acting "holier than thou" because they truely believe what they are saying and doing is commissioned by Jesus himself... to spread the "good news" of his sacrifice for our sins on the cross and his ressurection. If that means showing us the "sinners" that they believe we are and telling us how much we need "saving" then that's what they'll do. They truely believe they are on a mission from God himself to help spread the gospel of the saving grace of Jesus. Otherwise, they might stand before their God at judgement day and he (God) will question why weren't they faithful and tell the gospel story to everyone they encountered especially "Sally, Jane, and Joe?" They don't want to stand before their God on judgement day with blood on their hands. That's why they are holier than though and they will never admit to it. We are supposed to tolerate them because they are right, we are wrong, and unless we convert, we are going to hell, and they are going to heaven. Lady, I appreciate your input into this thread, but aren't you doing exactly what you're accusing christians of doing? Please enlighten me. What exactly am I doing? Now before you answer that let me say that I'm speaking from experience, not just as someone who'se been belittled and attacked by Christians, but as someone who was once a Christian and was doing the belittling and attacking. I used to be one of those "holier than thou" Christians. Now, please, enlighten me. I would gladly share with you what I was trying to say, but it appears to me that you are rather defensive and argumentative. I don't wish to argue. I was giving my opinion to the topic at hand. With that, Lady, you may attack me as you wish. =) Good grief. I wasn't attacking you. If I was attacking you, you'd know it sweetpea. I wasn't being defensive either. I just wanted you to have all the info before you start giving me a lecture, which I felt one coming on. lol So, come on, enlighten me. |
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Edited by
Redykeulous
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Sun 12/02/07 10:11 PM
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I am happy to report that the climate is changing. There is an umbrella with the word Christian on it. It hangs over a very large and diverse population of the world.
I have been fortunate to have lived through many changes within our society. Most of these changes have been welcome as their development has increased the way we view, and accept the diversity of culture, thought and religion. In recent years I have noticed a huge decline in the numbers of fundmentalist Christians. It does not appear that there are any less Christians, but rather that there are more who walk a path apart from the man made doctrines, and adhere to the individual ideal of belief. The OP presents a view that, 35 years ago, would not have been voiced at all. Today, at least, the voice can be heard, that is an imporvement. Just as Atheists don't want to viewed as reckless, insensitive and incapable of morals and ethics, many Christians are likewise offended when their label attaches them to less tolerant ideas. Not all Christians judge people by labeling their sins, not all Christians have a problem thinking outside the dogmatic box. In fact this wave away from the tradition of man made doctrines, quite happily, seems to have extended to many Religious views. It seems that secular is going out of style. So for all those who belive outside the box of any man-made dictates, cheers to us all! 
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Christians will never admit that they are acting "holier than thou" because they truely believe what they are saying and doing is commissioned by Jesus himself... to spread the "good news" of his sacrifice for our sins on the cross and his ressurection. If that means showing us the "sinners" that they believe we are and telling us how much we need "saving" then that's what they'll do. They truely believe they are on a mission from God himself to help spread the gospel of the saving grace of Jesus. Otherwise, they might stand before their God at judgement day and he (God) will question why weren't they faithful and tell the gospel story to everyone they encountered especially "Sally, Jane, and Joe?" They don't want to stand before their God on judgement day with blood on their hands. That's why they are holier than though and they will never admit to it. We are supposed to tolerate them because they are right, we are wrong, and unless we convert, we are going to hell, and they are going to heaven. Lady, I appreciate your input into this thread, but aren't you doing exactly what you're accusing christians of doing? Please enlighten me. What exactly am I doing? Now before you answer that let me say that I'm speaking from experience, not just as someone who'se been belittled and attacked by Christians, but as someone who was once a Christian and was doing the belittling and attacking. I used to be one of those "holier than thou" Christians. Now, please, enlighten me. I would gladly share with you what I was trying to say, but it appears to me that you are rather defensive and argumentative. I don't wish to argue. I was giving my opinion to the topic at hand. With that, Lady, you may attack me as you wish. =) Good grief. I wasn't attacking you. If I was attacking you, you'd know it sweetpea. I wasn't being defensive either. I just wanted you to have all the info before you start giving me a lecture, which I felt one coming on. lol So, come on, enlighten me. You may have felt a cold coming on or something..cuz I wasn't about to lecture, darling. That's not my style. |
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