Topic: Love - Like - Sex
DavidKamel's photo
Sun 02/04/18 07:04 PM
This is not semantics…. I already have three thousands dictionaries in my ruined library in addition to uncle Google!
And it is not psychology, either…

I hate both!

This is about you… your definition of life, its things, not definitions of words expressing those things. It’s about each one of you.

The Question is:
What is the difference (at least to you) between Love, Like, and Sexual desire?

Why do we (sometimes) refer to sexual intercourse by ‘making love’???
If your answer is that they are one thing, then why is sex still (to a great extent) considered as wrong (a taboo)? Why are women (usually on dating sites) irritated by those 17,849 offers to have sex?? Aren’t those frank offers of love? Isn’t ‘having sex’ the same as ‘making love’? If not, then what is the difference?
Also, I can’t have sex with a woman I don’t like; this means to like someone is the same of ‘to desire them’. So, it looks there’s no difference between ‘liking someone’ and ‘desiring them’. Also, what’s the difference between ‘liking someone’ and ‘desiring their body’?? does the first one means ‘to love them’???

And (to females only) when I say: “I like you”, “I like your beauty”, “You’re hot.. you’re sexy” OR when I hint something about your gigantic *** or about your silicon lips… etc. etc. etc…. What do you hear me say?? What do you guess is on my mind??? Be frank please!

And if YOU said it to a man, whatever he was, what had you meant by it? What had you expected in return?

I’m aware that different genders define these three words differently; and maybe this is the excitement of our question tonight... So, let’s get started.

You can stop reading here, and start enlightening us by your thoughts… However, if you want to understand further where I am coming from and why I have been thinking about this question (which seems easy on the surface) for more than four, five years, continue reading before you answer.

In many personals and profiles on dating sites, we usually hear the female voice saying things like: “I’m here looking for love...”, “Looking for the one...”, “Looking for my soul-mate..”, “looking for my prince..” or whatever of this overly romantic formula… etc. etc. etc... And when the guy respond to these things by offering sex, hinting at it, complimenting, courting, expressing admiration, showing desire, saying: “I like you..” or whatever of this kind, he usually misses the target… or more truly stated, he misses something.. something that looks more significant than what her words read…! The best reactions he will get is the typical ‘cold shoulder’, ’ indifference’, ‘short abrupt answers’, in the best scenarios; while the worst that could happen is to receive a dirty angry swear along with a final eternal block.. 

Wasn’t he expressing LOVE?
Are women not sexual??? Yes, they are.
Don’t they appreciate sex?? Yes, they do.
Don’t they like it?? Ewwwwww… more than you.
Aren’t they on dating-sites looking for it? (I don’t know..!).

Love – Like – Sex

Are they different things?

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P.S:
When I ask such complicated questions, it doesn’t mean I don’t already have a mind on it… No; but it’s just that I like to hear what others have to say… some people are blessed with beautiful minds and profound explanations… some others can’t dive deeper than the spacebar on their keyboard.

Also, I once had read a very profound answer about similar topic… it came from a young woman from USA who was in her med twenties… yet, the active people on this forum look to be above 40s. So, greater wisdom is expected.

Finally, I’m not seeking advice, please. I’m seeking opinions and different thoughts and a chance to discuss further.


IgorFrankensteen's photo
Sun 02/04/18 08:18 PM
This is not semantics


Actually, you yourself made it all about semantics, in the presentation of your complaints/observations.

You have played the age old game of switching from one definition of one of the listed words, to another definition of it, and then demanding that the behaviors associated with one context and definition be explained or denied, because they aren't coherent with the alternate definitions.

And that's just plain dishonest.

You've essentially said that because SOME people use the phrase "make love" as a euphemism for sex, that therefore when a woman says she is looking for love, and you offer her only a sexual tryst, that it's entirely HER being ingenuous, if she declines, or takes offense.

Balderdash.


motowndowntown's photo
Sun 02/04/18 09:15 PM
Well I have heard there are eight kinds of sex;
Love sex,
Hate sex,
Sex only sex,
Break up sex,
Make up sex,
Drunks sex,
Buddy sex,
Pity sex.


There may be a few more.

I imagine the different kinds of love are the same.

DavidKamel's photo
Sun 02/04/18 09:23 PM

Well I have heard there are eight kinds of sex;
Love sex,
Hate sex,
Sex only sex,
Break up sex,
Make up sex,
Drunks sex,
Buddy sex,
Pity sex.


There may be a few more.

I imagine the different kinds of love are the same.


this is what I'm looking for... a new realization...

hey guys.. give me more answers...


DavidKamel's photo
Sun 02/04/18 09:34 PM

what differentiates love .. sex.. like .... is individual attitude shaped by how we perceive ourselves , our values and those we interact with


can I disagree??

Sex can be synonomous with love but it can also just be a primal act of pleasure . The anatomical brain .. cock connection can work without love laugh laugh

I don't think masturbation is sex.. if this what you meant... it's some sort of feeling erotica, like watching porno... while sex is an intercourse. What do you think?



no photo
Sun 02/04/18 09:35 PM
Edited by Ness_a on Sun 02/04/18 09:39 PM
I’ll take on a few, but that’s a lot of questions within questions.

I consider “like” to be what I feel for those I have a good report with and/or admire to some extent.

I consider “love” to be what I feel for someone I care as deeply for as I do for myself. Romantic love is the deep seeded emotional tie based on love, respect, trust and attraction.

I consider “sex” the basic act of intercouse with the main objective of two parties joining to feel nice.

I consider “making love” as an intimate act (including, but not limited to intercourse) between two people who love one another with the objective of expressing their emotions for one another and make each other feel very lovely.

I don’t consider sex to be sononymous with love, but can certainly be used as one means to express it.

I consider physical atteaction nothing more than our minds triggering a hormone reaction that mindful individuals choose whether to physically react to or not, greatly based on their own values and beliefs.

My own personal values regiarding sex and lovemaking are based strictly on the value I’ve placed on my own body, and my desire to only share it with one I value just as highly.


DavidKamel's photo
Sun 02/04/18 09:54 PM
Edited by DavidKamel on Sun 02/04/18 10:12 PM

This is not semantics


Actually, you yourself made it all about semantics, in the presentation of your complaints/observations.

I demonstrated in advance what I don't want, and later what I want...

I don't want definitions of dictionaries... this is semantics.. and boring.. I don't want psychological interpretations... too complicated..

rather, I want what does the word (or the thing) mean to you? how do you comprehend it? what do you want to do as a satisfactory action to each one???

I THINK NOW I AM MORE HELPFUL TO THOSE WANTING TO REFLECT ON IT.

what do you feel will satisfy each one of these LOVE - LIKE - SEX???

You have played the age old game of switching from one definition of one of the listed words, to another definition of it, and then demanding that the behaviors associated with one context and definition be explained or denied, because they aren't coherent with the alternate definitions.

And that's just plain dishonest.


I haven't played or tried... Rather, this is reality,and I just presented it as an introduction to and demonstration to my aim of asking this question(s).


You've essentially said that because SOME people use the phrase "make love" as a euphemism for sex, that therefore when a woman says she is looking for love, and you offer her only a sexual tryst, that it's entirely HER being ingenuous, if she declines, or takes offense.

Balderdash.



No, I'm NOT trying to say women are ingenuous in what they say... I'm trying to grab the general attention to something else... ((something more significant than what the plain words read)))... so, I'm afraid you missed my point just like you used to miss her words.. lol

my questions is NOT about women... it's about a one single thing: THE DIFFERENCE. the difference of usage, of meaning, of understanding, of expressing of LOVE - LIKE - SEX.

DavidKamel's photo
Mon 02/05/18 08:31 AM


no that is not what I meant .. I was implying that sex for many is an impulsive behaviour .. it does not always require love .. ..
is sex with a prostitue love .. is a one night stand love .. is rape love .. is a threesome love ..
all involve the act of sex .. but not nevesssrily love

what complicates sex is human values .. morals .. religions .. cultures which shape how we
associatie sex and romantic love ., and determine whether we idealise sex as only right within the boundaries of committed love .

Perhaps you would like to tell me .. What shapes your interpretation of sex or love .. :wink:



Interesting answer.. I can have sexual affair with a certain woman, but still be crazily in love with another one.

Amazing!

This explains why women looking for love usually reject sex proposals...

To them, sex and love, are separated!

and this also helps reduce my amazement and confusion about certain committed women whom I come to slight contacts with in the street, the neighbor, in the daily life... even though they are happily committed, there is still something else that they might be willing to seek...

Amazing!

However...

It is a SERIOUS DILEMMA!

at least to me..

Why should I love you if I'm not attracted sexually to you?

Why should I have sex with you if I don't like you?

Why should I like you if you are not sexy (at least to me)??


read these very last questions and answer me, if you can...

How could I love you when I'm not interested in you as a sexual creature???
Do you think I'm looking for a new Mama??? where I feel love but don't feel sex??


yellowrose10's photo
Mon 02/05/18 08:46 AM


This is not semantics


Actually, you yourself made it all about semantics, in the presentation of your complaints/observations.

I demonstrated in advance what I don't want, and later what I want...

I don't want definitions of dictionaries... this is semantics.. and boring.. I don't want psychological interpretations... too complicated..

rather, I want what does the word (or the thing) mean to you? how do you comprehend it? what do you want to do as a satisfactory action to each one???

I THINK NOW I AM MORE HELPFUL TO THOSE WANTING TO REFLECT ON IT.

what do you feel will satisfy each one of these LOVE - LIKE - SEX???

You have played the age old game of switching from one definition of one of the listed words, to another definition of it, and then demanding that the behaviors associated with one context and definition be explained or denied, because they aren't coherent with the alternate definitions.

And that's just plain dishonest.


I haven't played or tried... Rather, this is reality,and I just presented it as an introduction to and demonstration to my aim of asking this question(s).


You've essentially said that because SOME people use the phrase "make love" as a euphemism for sex, that therefore when a woman says she is looking for love, and you offer her only a sexual tryst, that it's entirely HER being ingenuous, if she declines, or takes offense.

Balderdash.



No, I'm NOT trying to say women are ingenuous in what they say... I'm trying to grab the general attention to something else... ((something more significant than what the plain words read)))... so, I'm afraid you missed my point just like you used to miss her words.. lol

my questions is NOT about women... it's about a one single thing: THE DIFFERENCE. the difference of usage, of meaning, of understanding, of expressing of LOVE - LIKE - SEX.


His amswer is actually a good one. When you post topics, you don't get to dictate how people answer

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 02/05/18 08:59 AM
I'm seeing typical male dominated posts from you DavidKamel.
Like, Love and Sexual desire are different things to different people. They also have very different degrees of importance between genders.

Making Love is a concept that is difficult for someone to understand unless they have done it. It involves much more than sex and lasts a lifetime if done right.

Love and like can only truly exist in the present.
Our memories perpetuate the feeling but without actual moments in the present to reinforce our memories the feelings fade.

There are people that exist in life that are not driven by sex and the goal of a sexual encounter.
I know it is difficult to grasp but there are a lot of women that are driven by a need for love.

Like is inconsequential acceptance
Love is a commitment of extreme acceptance
Sex is a physical release
Making love is a sharing of love.

Many people associate the sexual aspects of the Kama Sutra as love while the actual Kama Sutra is a means to making and expressing love to another.
Tantric sex is only one aspect of trantra.
Both are giving disciplines with the goal of experiencing deeper love during sex.

Porn, on the other hand, is the selfish act of sex for the sake of the sexual act.

To separate having sex from making love you have to look at the reasons for having the sex in the first place.
Is it driven by your own desire for gratification or is it driven by your desire to share a personal experience in the most intimate way with another?

When seeking sex, your goal is self gratification.
It is nearly impossible to seek love.
Love is something that fulfills over time spent with that person.
Feeling love for each other is a requirement for making love and can not be chosen as a menu item.

As a man, I am seeking a woman that likes me as much as I like her. Sexual attraction is part of the equation but is not the only thing I am looking for.
If all I were seeking was a sexual encounter I would just go get a hooker.
Only after a two-way love is established can we make love.

Women are not quests, trophies or slaves.
Women are people with personailities that have needs and desires just like men.
Making love is acknowledging them and showing them your love for them by addressing their needs and desires. When done correctly, both have their needs and desires fulfilled by the other.

Making love doesn't mean sexual gratification.
It means fulfillment of desire.