Another shooting

https://www.yahoo.com/news/2-teenagers-gunned-down-kentucky-152031657.html

Okay, so is it time ..?
Not to take or regulate the precious guns of gun owners,,, but to maybe bring up the next generations with mandated ANGER MANAGEMENT and dispute resolution courses in school?

I mean if we are going to be sure guns are so readily available to people, perhaps it wont hurt to do more to foster the temperament and mindset of those people who may decide to have one?

All people, not just teens, that purchase guns should be throughy evaluated, tested and background checked, before a purchase can be made. Laws should have been in place over 50 years ago.

I don't see anything in the article that notes any type of anger or dispute involved in the shooting.

There's no motive for the shooting in the article linked and nothing more relevant than people were shot by another 15 year old.

For all I know, based on the linked mostly click bait article meant for liberals that want to feel more than think, some kid from the special ed class broke into a neighbors house, stole a gun, and was trying to shoot pigeons off the roof.


It's not legal for a 15 year old to buy a gun. Handgun or rifle.
It's specifically against federal law for someone 15 to be in possession of a handgun.
If they've got a gun then either their parent(s) gave them one, the kid stole it, built it, or there was an illegal transaction.

If some 15 year old kid bought it via the "loophole" then the person selling it to them is probably screwed for not filling out a bill of sale to show transfer of ownership and could possibly be charged as an accessory to whatever crime is committed by the gun they sold to the kid. Not to mention in violation of federal law by selling it to a 15 year old.

Saying they "are so readily available to people" with a link to a story about a 15 year old kid shooting other 15 year old kids kinda implies they're freely selling guns to kids.

Other than that, there are more restrictions on gun ownership than there are in voting.
Some people are freaked out that Trump has access to nuclear weapons.
God knows how many innocent civilians were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan after we invaded for WMD's, and the continuing conflicts.
Mainstream media seems to love pushing to the front every single shooting in this country. But foreign civilian casualties in ongoing war efforts? Mostly crickets.

Why aren't there national voter i.d. cards? Why are there no background checks or psychological evaluations or emotional temperament checks for people to vote? Why are there no mandatory classes on maintaining political equanimity for voting? Or even speak? Or join a church?
Private gun ownership, speech, voting, constitutionally protected rights.
But treated very differently.


It would be more appropriate to say "Not to take or regulate the precious rights of gun owners."
Whether you like it or not, the 2nd amendment exists, and however you might like to personally interpret it is legally recognized as referring to "guns."

Ultimately making "guns" little different than speech, or being secure with your possessions, or religion, or fair trial.
Doesn't matter whether you see no point to others having guns.

It's not regulating the precious guns of gun owners, it's regulating the rights of gun owners through gun regulation.

IMO little different than regulating free speech by classifying certain things as "hate" speech. "Oh, that's an assault rifle, we're going to regulate it so you can't have those. That's dangerous. Oh, that's a book on slavery, or has swear words in it, or pictures of naked people, that's gross and dangerous to children, you can't have those."


How have the abstinence programs worked in school? Or sex ed?
Fewer kids having sex? Eradication of teen pregnancy?
How about drug awareness? MADD? No more kids drinking? No more kids selling Ritalin to each other? Opioid epidemic never happened? No one is stealing from their parents medicine cabinets?
How about drivers education? Eradicated all car accidents caused by teens? No more texting and driving?

Might as well say you should mandate alcoholics anonymous for everyone that applies for a drivers license, and then expect that to end drunk driving.

Good luck with that.

Is it time to what???
The left is so out of whack...
Ok, lets ban guns....What next??
Because it is the nature of humans to destroy themselves....
Toasters?
Bats?
Cars?
Vans?
Pretty soon the left will have YOU eating with paper spoons and forks, and you'll be walking to work...
The reason why we don't ban guns is to keep corrupt governments from turning America into Germany, France, England, with the invasion of muslim imigrants.
Corrupt government???
Comon Rob, that doesn't happen..Oh yea??
Hiw bout the corruption in THE:
FBI
CIA
NSA
MAINSTREAM MEDIA
THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITY...
The State of California...
These groups have broken federal law....The only reason the DEEP state and George Soros gave up, was the thought of facing 175 million ARMED AMERICAN FREEDOM FIGHTERS. All enemies, forgine or domestic. I hope you leftists can understand.

I don't think the 15 million illegals in the US would
vote for it though.

I think they should make people list all meds they are on before a gun is sold, most all shootings are people on heavy meds, anti depressants mainly

say it again brother. The left will never understand until they are in a situation where they are helpless to defend a loved one being raped or car jacked or shot . I hope it never comes to that but that's reality

Time for what?

Gun control only limits they honest people that might protect their property or family.

Of someone wants to be evil, gun laws have no effect!

the thread is not promoting a ban of guns.

i dont think illegals are permitted to vote or relevant to the question at hand.

Actually not a bad idea to start with moe

the thread is not promoting gun bans or doing ANYTHING about guns. It is addressing the potential gun owners.

I think that goes into the registry

Most gun owners are responsible. If a parent lets kids have access, they shpuld be charged. But people can buy guns (or steal) anywhere. Gun control doesn't allow that. If someone wants to do something illegal, they will find a way. Without a gun, might be a knife

you think wrong...again. Ms

http://lasvegastribune.net/calif-gov-jerry-brown-signs-bill-allowing-illegal-immigrants-vote/

illegals don't buy guns legally

Maybe you should ask yourselves why you're so puckin violent with each other in America?

Guns, no guns... doesn't really matter, the thought process is out of wack!


More guns and more violence will fix everything

Not really. Chicago has very strict gun laws and major gun violence

Even without guns, people can stab, bomb or run people over, like in other countries.


In Texas, I am glad for gun laws but my 2nd amendment too. I will protect me, loved ones and property

Canadians get nervous if there's a gun near the border... I'd like to see the look on his face if he ever walks down the street here in Texas...

The loopholes need to be stopped and only sane law abiding citizen's who have no criminal record should be allowed to own a gun. If you are being treated for a mental condition, sorry but no gun for you.

But that is not going to solve the bigger problem. Below is the shootings in Chicago in 2015 & 2016 the vast majority of these shootings were gang or drug related. The vast majority of the guns recovered were.. stolen.

Start with the core gun problem in this country which is disarming the thugs.
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fox news:
The city of Chicago recorded 762 homicides in 2016 — an average of two murders per day, the most killings in the city for two decades and more than New York and Los Angeles combined.
The nation's third largest city also saw 1,100 more shooting incidents than it did in 2015, according to statistics released by


There were  2,900 shootings in 2015, which means there were 4,000 shootings in Chicago in 2016

A state with one of the toughest gun laws.. but thugs don't care about laws.

they could be allowed to vote in elections if the Secretary of State’s office fails to verify their eligibility properly.


they are still not permitted to vote, although they may be "able" to