Topic: Women's Rights ...
msharmony's photo
Sat 01/20/18 05:08 PM

So there's not a valid reason to March?


several have been supplied above

as much 'reason' as there is for anything we do with others, including posting on a website ... people commune over common interests, its just what they do

mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/20/18 05:12 PM


So there's not a valid reason to March?


several have been supplied above

as much 'reason' as there is for anything we do with others, including posting on a website ... people commune over common interests, its just what they do
none of those are valid... Women have every right that everyone else in the US has... So, like the gays, y'all want extra rights...

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/20/18 05:15 PM



So there's not a valid reason to March?


several have been supplied above

as much 'reason' as there is for anything we do with others, including posting on a website ... people commune over common interests, its just what they do
none of those are valid... Women have every right that everyone else in the US has... So, like the gays, y'all want extra rights...


apparently many women disagree about that

although rights is a word that is overused for effect many times, the Constitution has a limited number of words and doesnt cover NEARLY As many things as we like to believe it does ... but

women often are not getting the same pay as men, nor the same opportunities offered, nor the sense of safety from harassment in their workplace ... amongst other things.

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Sat 01/20/18 05:27 PM



So there's not a valid reason to March?


several have been supplied above

as much 'reason' as there is for anything we do with others, including posting on a website ... people commune over common interests, its just what they do
none of those are valid... Women have every right that everyone else in the US has... So, like the gays, y'all want extra rights...

Nuffs never nuff or give an inch take a mile. :nerd:

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Sat 01/20/18 09:57 PM
noone should be 'given' anything but equitable treatment, equitable treatment is 'nuff'

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Sat 01/20/18 10:29 PM



So there's not a valid reason to March?


several have been supplied above

as much 'reason' as there is for anything we do with others, including posting on a website ... people commune over common interests, its just what they do
none of those are valid... Women have every right that everyone else in the US has... So, like the gays, y'all want extra rights...


it is/was a great event..women unite or at least they should.

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Sun 01/21/18 02:24 AM

noone should be 'given' anything but equitable treatment, equitable treatment is 'nuff'

Should is the key word there. And monetarily I see some discrepancy.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 01/22/18 05:29 AM




So there's not a valid reason to March?


several have been supplied above

as much 'reason' as there is for anything we do with others, including posting on a website ... people commune over common interests, its just what they do
none of those are valid... Women have every right that everyone else in the US has... So, like the gays, y'all want extra rights...


it is/was a great event..women unite or at least they should.
this and the pay thing are the best reasons posted so far

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Mon 01/22/18 09:20 AM
Women's March Global ...

Eh. Marches. Especially false choice marches.
Seems it would be more meaningful if it were more like "we're going to be marching here from now on until the changes we want happen!"

Otherwise it just seems like a bloated meetup.com walking group, a half assed parade.

At least bring some pitchforks and torches, maybe a catapult float or something.

But just "we're going to walk around shouting and stuff for a little bit, then we're going to go home and feel a false sense of solidarity and accomplishment because we marched about stuff we vaguely agree on that falls apart with 5 minutes of rational thought, but we happen to have the same genital structures and general feelings," isn't really doing anything.

Million man march, that libertarian thing where they went to Washington and sat around. At least the March of Dimes raises money, but they don't really march, they just put little displays up at Circle K.

noone should be 'given' anything but equitable treatment, equitable treatment is 'nuff'

Only under the law where things are specifically made as black and white as possible via absolutely defined legal terms.
Otherwise good luck. No one/group gets equitable treatment in anything.

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Tue 01/23/18 05:43 AM

I'm for women getting paid the same as a man, who is working in that same job title! I think women may get there in maybe 20 years if Congress and Washington leaders ever gets it together!whoa laugh


I absolutely agree with this. If you can do the job it should not matter what gender you are. And you should be paid according to that ability, not to your gender.

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Tue 01/23/18 08:47 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 01/23/18 08:50 AM

Women's March Global ...

Eh. Marches. Especially false choice marches.
Seems it would be more meaningful if it were more like "we're going to be marching here from now on until the changes we want happen!"

Otherwise it just seems like a bloated meetup.com walking group, a half assed parade.

At least bring some pitchforks and torches, maybe a catapult float or something.

But just "we're going to walk around shouting and stuff for a little bit, then we're going to go home and feel a false sense of solidarity and accomplishment because we marched about stuff we vaguely agree on that falls apart with 5 minutes of rational thought, but we happen to have the same genital structures and general feelings," isn't really doing anything.

Million man march, that libertarian thing where they went to Washington and sat around. At least the March of Dimes raises money, but they don't really march, they just put little displays up at Circle K.

noone should be 'given' anything but equitable treatment, equitable treatment is 'nuff'

Only under the law where things are specifically made as black and white as possible via absolutely defined legal terms.
Otherwise good luck. No one/group gets equitable treatment in anything.


actually the MMM wasnt just people 'sitting around', many places organized after that event in inner cities to form youth mentoring and neighborhood groups to build up families and communities, and many men were changed in their own lives attitudes, and behaviors, by the inspirational speakers

not to mention that with worldwide exposure, it was a staunch reflection of the false stereotype about groups of minorities being dangerous, violent, or otherwise criminal in their behaviors ...

mightymoe's photo
Tue 01/23/18 10:32 AM


Women's March Global ...

Eh. Marches. Especially false choice marches.
Seems it would be more meaningful if it were more like "we're going to be marching here from now on until the changes we want happen!"

Otherwise it just seems like a bloated meetup.com walking group, a half assed parade.

At least bring some pitchforks and torches, maybe a catapult float or something.

But just "we're going to walk around shouting and stuff for a little bit, then we're going to go home and feel a false sense of solidarity and accomplishment because we marched about stuff we vaguely agree on that falls apart with 5 minutes of rational thought, but we happen to have the same genital structures and general feelings," isn't really doing anything.

Million man march, that libertarian thing where they went to Washington and sat around. At least the March of Dimes raises money, but they don't really march, they just put little displays up at Circle K.

noone should be 'given' anything but equitable treatment, equitable treatment is 'nuff'

Only under the law where things are specifically made as black and white as possible via absolutely defined legal terms.
Otherwise good luck. No one/group gets equitable treatment in anything.


actually the MMM wasnt just people 'sitting around', many places organized after that event in inner cities to form youth mentoring and neighborhood groups to build up families and communities, and many men were changed in their own lives attitudes, and behaviors, by the inspirational speakers

not to mention that with worldwide exposure, it was a staunch reflection of the false stereotype about groups of minorities being dangerous, violent, or otherwise criminal in their behaviors ...

mightymoe's photo
Tue 01/23/18 10:35 AM


Women's March Global ...

Eh. Marches. Especially false choice marches.
Seems it would be more meaningful if it were more like "we're going to be marching here from now on until the changes we want happen!"

Otherwise it just seems like a bloated meetup.com walking group, a half assed parade.

At least bring some pitchforks and torches, maybe a catapult float or something.

But just "we're going to walk around shouting and stuff for a little bit, then we're going to go home and feel a false sense of solidarity and accomplishment because we marched about stuff we vaguely agree on that falls apart with 5 minutes of rational thought, but we happen to have the same genital structures and general feelings," isn't really doing anything.

Million man march, that libertarian thing where they went to Washington and sat around. At least the March of Dimes raises money, but they don't really march, they just put little displays up at Circle K.

noone should be 'given' anything but equitable treatment, equitable treatment is 'nuff'

Only under the law where things are specifically made as black and white as possible via absolutely defined legal terms.
Otherwise good luck. No one/group gets equitable treatment in anything.


actually the MMM wasnt just people 'sitting around', many places organized after that event in inner cities to form youth mentoring and neighborhood groups to build up families and communities, and many men were changed in their own lives attitudes, and behaviors, by the inspirational speakers

not to mention that with worldwide exposure, it was a staunch reflection of the false stereotype about groups of minorities being dangerous, violent, or otherwise criminal in their behaviors ...
false? I guess that's why there's no problems with the inner cities, and why people just love to live there...just because the news ignores the problems doesn't mean it doesn't exist...

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Tue 01/23/18 10:38 AM
As a women, I am all for womens rights. I draw the line bashing men. Seemed to turn into a bash Trump march. Bash men accused (after how long?) of things

They failed IMO. It wasn't women's rights. It was hate men march

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/23/18 10:43 AM



Women's March Global ...

Eh. Marches. Especially false choice marches.
Seems it would be more meaningful if it were more like "we're going to be marching here from now on until the changes we want happen!"

Otherwise it just seems like a bloated meetup.com walking group, a half assed parade.

At least bring some pitchforks and torches, maybe a catapult float or something.

But just "we're going to walk around shouting and stuff for a little bit, then we're going to go home and feel a false sense of solidarity and accomplishment because we marched about stuff we vaguely agree on that falls apart with 5 minutes of rational thought, but we happen to have the same genital structures and general feelings," isn't really doing anything.

Million man march, that libertarian thing where they went to Washington and sat around. At least the March of Dimes raises money, but they don't really march, they just put little displays up at Circle K.

noone should be 'given' anything but equitable treatment, equitable treatment is 'nuff'

Only under the law where things are specifically made as black and white as possible via absolutely defined legal terms.
Otherwise good luck. No one/group gets equitable treatment in anything.


actually the MMM wasnt just people 'sitting around', many places organized after that event in inner cities to form youth mentoring and neighborhood groups to build up families and communities, and many men were changed in their own lives attitudes, and behaviors, by the inspirational speakers

not to mention that with worldwide exposure, it was a staunch reflection of the false stereotype about groups of minorities being dangerous, violent, or otherwise criminal in their behaviors ...
false? I guess that's why there's no problems with the inner cities, and why people just love to live there...just because the news ignores the problems doesn't mean it doesn't exist...



stereotype:
a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.

KEY WORD is 'oversimplified', yes, in certain conditions people can become violent or have gang mentality, regardless of race though


having that many blacks together without occurrence disproves that its a 'black' thing.

the news doesnt ignore 'problems' when problems are images of violent or criminal blacks, they are overabundant in 'the news'

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Tue 01/23/18 12:22 PM
I can understand people being confused with the march. As it is very unclear exactly what the protests are. Below is just one of a few "different" mission statements on the web.

I looked thru some of the complains on the below mission statement and many are already rights. I cherry picked out just one " civil rights. Isn't voting, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, ect already rights? Then why are they on there?. this gets played out line item after line item

I don't think anyone man or woman doesn't think more work can and should be done, especially in areas of harassment at the workplace and equal pay. But in order to have a valid protest, the topics of protest should be loud and clear, not gray and confusing. Which they are. And different protests are stating different complaints?

So really, it is everyone's right to protest but for Christ sake make the protest clear.

And I have to wonder where were all thee protesters prior to the new President taking office. Where not these " complaints" going on then?

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https://www.womensrights.org/mission-statement



From the mission statement agenda:
CIVIL RIGHTS
We believe Civil Rights are our birthright, including voting rights, freedom to worship without fear of intimidation or harassment, freedom of speech, and protections for all citizens regardless of race, gender, age or disability. We believe it is time for an all-inclusive Equal Rights Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. 
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what is " all inclusive"?












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Tue 01/23/18 12:26 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 01/23/18 12:27 PM
I believe a MARCH is a symbolic gathering just like standing for the flag. People are coming together over common concerns. People are standing in solidarity about certain events or issues. It is not always an official and specific protest of any one thing.

It is a chance to stand with those that have similar values or goals and be inspired by those who are addressing those values or trying to work towards those goals.

I also believe human rights are women's rights. So often those things that may not seem to be specifically or only affecting women, become an issue for women who recognize that there are women being affected(as well).

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Tue 01/23/18 12:49 PM

I believe a MARCH is a symbolic gathering just like standing for the flag. People are coming together over common concerns. People are standing in solidarity about certain events or issues. It is not always an official and specific protest of any one thing.

It is a chance to stand with those that have similar values or goals and be inspired by those who are addressing those values or trying to work towards those goals.

I also believe human rights are women's rights. So often those things that may not seem to be specifically or only affecting women, become an issue for women who recognize that there are women being affected(as well).


And that's fine and dandy, but the mission statement is still very confusing.




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Tue 01/23/18 01:02 PM


I believe a MARCH is a symbolic gathering just like standing for the flag. People are coming together over common concerns. People are standing in solidarity about certain events or issues. It is not always an official and specific protest of any one thing.

It is a chance to stand with those that have similar values or goals and be inspired by those who are addressing those values or trying to work towards those goals.

I also believe human rights are women's rights. So often those things that may not seem to be specifically or only affecting women, become an issue for women who recognize that there are women being affected(as well).


And that's fine and dandy, but the mission statement is still very confusing.






that was a mission statement for 'womens rights'

not for the women's march


this is their mission statement:

The mission of Women’s March is to harness the political power of diverse women and their communities to create transformative social change. Women’s March is a women-led movement providing intersectional education on a diverse range of issues and creating entry points for new grassroots activists & organizers to engage in their local communities through trainings, outreach programs and events. Women’s March is committed to dismantling systems of oppression through nonviolent resistance and building inclusive structures guided by self-determination, dignity and respect.

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/23/18 01:02 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 01/23/18 01:12 PM


I believe a MARCH is a symbolic gathering just like standing for the flag. People are coming together over common concerns. People are standing in solidarity about certain events or issues. It is not always an official and specific protest of any one thing.

It is a chance to stand with those that have similar values or goals and be inspired by those who are addressing those values or trying to work towards those goals.

I also believe human rights are women's rights. So often those things that may not seem to be specifically or only affecting women, become an issue for women who recognize that there are women being affected(as well).


And that's fine and dandy, but the mission statement is still very confusing.






the link was to 'womens rights'

not for the women's march


this is their mission statement:

The mission of Women’s March is to harness the political power of diverse women and their communities to create transformative social change. Women’s March is a women-led movement providing intersectional education on a diverse range of issues and creating entry points for new grassroots activists & organizers to engage in their local communities through trainings, outreach programs and events. Women’s March is committed to dismantling systems of oppression through nonviolent resistance and building inclusive structures guided by self-determination, dignity and respect.

their page has a pdf that gives more description of their principles
regarding civil rights:

We believe Civil Rights are our birthright. Our Constitutional government establishes a framework to provide and expand rights and freedoms–not restrict them.

To this end, we must protect and restore all the Constitutionally-mandated rights to all our citizens, including voting rights, freedom to worship without fear of intimidation or harassment, freedom of speech, and protections for all citizens regardless of race, gender, age or disability. We honor and respect tribal laws and jurisdictions.


We believe it is time for an all-inclusive Equal Rights Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Most Americans believe the Constitution guarantees equal rights, but it does not.

The 14th Amendment has been undermined by courts and cannot produce real equity on the basis of race and/or sex. And in a true democracy, each citizen’s vote should count equally. All Americans deserve equality guarantees in the Constitution that cannot be taken away or disregarded, recognizing the reality that inequalities intersect, interconnect and overlap.