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Hmm, I could not write "It is not over till the fat lady sings". That is not pc. When did you know when your marriage/relationship was over? That your future did not have that SO in it? The original phrase is generally understood to be referencing the stereotypically overweight sopranos of the opera. The imagery of Richard Wagner's opera cycle Der Ring des Nibelungen and its last part, Götterdämmerung, is typically the one used in depictions accompanying reference to the phrase. The "fat lady" is the valkyrie Brünnhilde, who is traditionally presented as a very buxom lady with horned helmet, spear and round shield (although Amalie Materna played Brünnhilde during Wagner's lifetime (1876) with a winged helmet). Her farewell scene lasts almost twenty minutes and leads directly to the finale of the whole Ring Cycle. As Götterdämmerung is about the end of the world (or at least the world of the Norse gods), in a very significant way "it is [all] over when the fat lady sings." Thanks for that. |
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Hmm, I could not write "It is not over till the fat lady sings". That is not pc. When did you know when your marriage/relationship was over? That your future did not have that SO in it? Sometimes the signs were there very very early on but were ignored. I guess that means the relationship wasn't really over then. Hmm... The second time... when I had to go back after 2 days away from home and found myself crying whilst driving because I didn't want to go back to him. It was about bloody time, had only taken me 10 yrs to work out things would never get better. The first time... When he was about to come back after being gone for a week for work and I felt I'd rather he stayed away. I still tried to make it work... failed. Last time... When he told me... Been there many times not wanting to go home, crying. |
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When I woke up, took off the rose-colored glasses and saw her for who she had become after my health took my job (and my money). Ouch Tomforyouhere. You are such a kind person, I can imagine you did your utmost in that relationship too  Thanx ladywind. The marriage was wonderful for 23 and a half years of 25. I worked ungodly hours and pushed myself past my limit too long for too little. When my body finally gave out, I had time to see the person she had become (she was/is a compulsive liar). At one time, towards the end, our friends would come to us for advice on their marriages and kid issues. The money ended and her demon surfaced. I beat myself up for awhile at being such a fool but the hurt of it all was pretty fresh coupled with a mortality scare. As my soul heals I realize that it wasn't all bad, it was actually very, very good. It just went bad. There is no place for her in my heart anymore, those bridges have been burned. I do know I am capeable of loving someone. Lessons have been learned and I watch for signs. Once Bitten/Twice Shy I remain optimistic but I also know, the fat lady may have already sang for me. |
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Sometimes you try really hard because of the vows you took, always forgiving. There is a time when it hits you that nothing will ever change. Yes, the reality for me was - Love wasn't enough/sufficient to remain in the relationship...swallowing the bittersweet pill of failure went down hard...leaving the "familiar together" zone and walking a now unfamiliar "single" path was thrilling and scary as heck initially...I accepted the consequences resulting from my decision, pointed no fingers, and broke the rearview mirror... |
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Sometimes you try really hard because of the vows you took, always forgiving. There is a time when it hits you that nothing will ever change. Yes, the reality for me was - Love wasn't enough/sufficient to remain in the relationship...swallowing the bittersweet pill of failure went down hard...leaving the "familiar together" zone and walking a now unfamiliar "single" path was thrilling and scary as heck initially...I accepted the consequences resulting from my decision, pointed no fingers, and broke the rearview mirror... good analogy - for me it was when I realized I couldn't stay in the marriage and not have kids |
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That is very judgemental Waterloosunset. Sometimes you try really hard because of the vows you took, always forgiving. There is a time when it hits you that nothing will ever change. Sometimes people live in a world of denial. Not necessarily - some relationships are more complicated than that - I married someone who was a real good actor - a "Dr. Jekle Mr Hyde" personality that didn't come out until after we were married. 
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Sometimes you try really hard because of the vows you took, always forgiving. There is a time when it hits you that nothing will ever change. Yes, the reality for me was - Love wasn't enough/sufficient to remain in the relationship...swallowing the bittersweet pill of failure went down hard...leaving the "familiar together" zone and walking a now unfamiliar "single" path was thrilling and scary as heck initially...I accepted the consequences resulting from my decision, pointed no fingers, and broke the rearview mirror... I understand. It is far better to stop dying daily and finally live, even if that means being single.. |
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That is very judgemental Waterloosunset. Sometimes you try really hard because of the vows you took, always forgiving. There is a time when it hits you that nothing will ever change. Sometimes people live in a world of denial. Not necessarily - some relationships are more complicated than that - I married someone who was a real good actor - a "Dr. Jekle Mr Hyde" personality that didn't come out until after we were married. A double minded person is unstable in all their ways. |
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Edited by
Pepinofruit
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Wed 12/06/17 07:28 PM
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Hmm, I could not write "It is not over till the fat lady sings". That is not pc. When did you know when your marriage/relationship was over? That your future did not have that SO in it? ******************************** CONFESSION ....  Not until the last minute the Big winning lottery ticket arrived. No bull...Over 3 Mill we won, a major prise and she did not tell me, instead, she kept the ticket hidden for a year or even longer...ha ha Fool me once, you get some points. Fool me twice, my bad We were happy for 17 years...Suddenly, she approaches me one day saying she had enough, does not like the way I walk, talk, sleep, dress, smell, the list grew bigger by the day What is wrong woman?, I had to ask. Everything! was the answer.  At that moment I KNEW, THE FAT LADY SANG  PS:..I find out about the lottery ticket 3 years later In 4 months I was out the door, cheap divorce, only AU$450  Looking for a place Far out west country 400km away from the City of Sydney and trying to readjust my life & live in peace. And finally peace I have found...That was 24 years ago. Started all new from scratch. Bought a farm, borrowed money, went down busted & bankrupt like a hero, had to sell to pay debts, started again, and finally, I am free. I am not complaining I live with dignity, own my roof over my head and everything else in the sheds. Including the new 4 weels As for my EX, that's another book to write I forgive because I KNOW how KARMA WORKS. All I can say is, I did forgive her since at present she takes 3 kinds of Psychotic medications to stabilize her mood/s.  I ask my self sometimes...Doesn't a lot of money makes you happy? Especially a thirsty hungry greedy woman like her? Today I KNOW BEST, the answer is NO !..MONEY DON'T BUY HAPPINESS. One must be wise, share and know where the family investment/s go. GUILT is/was the REASON/S ( In her case ) Yes, it can be an added bonus, but ALAS, will not make one happy. I also may add, we are still friends that's because of our 36 years old daughter. Been there done that, rolling in the dust & mud, spinning like a boomerang few times around  Now !..Who wants to walk in, or wear my shoes ?? Oh ..B.T.W., for some, or to some. You may LAUGH as much or less at me as you like, feel or want. I GIVE YOU ALL WHO WANTS or FEEL SO, PERMISION TO DO IT... .LOL |
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Hmm, I could not write "It is not over till the fat lady sings". That is not pc. When did you know when your marriage/relationship was over? That your future did not have that SO in it? ******************************** CONFESSION .... Not until the last minute the Big winning lottery ticket arrived. No bull...Over 3 Mill we won, a major prise and she did not tell me, instead, she kept the ticket hidden for a year or even longer...ha ha Fool me once, you get some points. Fool me twice, my bad We were happy for 17 years...Suddenly, she approaches me one day saying she had enough, does not like the way I walk, talk, sleep, dress, smell, the list grew bigger by the day What is wrong woman?, I had to ask. Everything! was the answer. At that moment I KNEW, THE FAT LADY SANG PS:..I find out about the lottery ticket 3 years later In 4 months I was out the door, cheap divorce, only AU$450 Looking for a place Far out west country 400km away from the City of Sydney and trying to readjust my life & live in peace. And finally peace I have found...That was 24 years ago. Started all new from scratch. Bought a farm, borrowed money, went down busted & bankrupt like a hero, had to sell to pay debts, started again, and finally, I am free. I am not complaining I live with dignity, own my roof over my head and everything else in the sheds. Including the new 4 weels As for my EX, that's another book to write I forgive because I KNOW how KARMA WORKS. All I can say is, I did forgive her since at present she takes 3 kinds of Psychotic medications to stabilize her mood/s. I ask my self sometimes...Doesn't a lot of money makes you happy? Especially a thirsty hungry greedy woman like her? Today I KNOW BEST, the answer is NO !..MONEY DON'T BUY HAPPINESS. One must be wise, share and know where the family investment/s go. GUILT is/was the REASON/S ( In her case ) Yes, it can be an added bonus, but ALAS, will not make one happy. I also may add, we are still friends that's because of our 36 years old daughter. Been there done that, rolling in the dust & mud, spinning like a boomerang few times around Now !..Who wants to walk in, or wear my shoes ?? Oh ..B.T.W., for some, or to some. You may LAUGH as much or less at me as you like, feel or want. I GIVE YOU ALL WHO WANTS or FEEL SO, PERMISION TO DO IT... .LOL Why would anyone laugh at your story? Her deceit was nasty. You have amazing courage despite all that has happened to you. |
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Edited by
Pepinofruit
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Fri 12/08/17 05:32 PM
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Hmm, I could not write "It is not over till the fat lady sings". That is not pc. When did you know when your marriage/relationship was over? That your future did not have that SO in it? ******************************** CONFESSION .... Not until the last minute the Big winning lottery ticket arrived. No bull...Over 3 Mill we won, a major prise and she did not tell me, instead, she kept the ticket hidden for a year or even longer...ha ha Fool me once, you get some points. Fool me twice, my bad We were happy for 17 years...Suddenly, she approaches me one day saying she had enough, does not like the way I walk, talk, sleep, dress, smell, the list grew bigger by the day What is wrong woman?, I had to ask. Everything! was the answer. At that moment I KNEW, THE FAT LADY SANG PS:..I find out about the lottery ticket 3 years later In 4 months I was out the door, cheap divorce, only AU$450 Looking for a place Far out west country 400km away from the City of Sydney and trying to readjust my life & live in peace. And finally peace I have found...That was 24 years ago. Started all new from scratch. Bought a farm, borrowed money, went down busted & bankrupt like a hero, had to sell to pay debts, started again, and finally, I am free. I am not complaining I live with dignity, own my roof over my head and everything else in the sheds. Including the new 4 weels As for my EX, that's another book to write I forgive because I KNOW how KARMA WORKS. All I can say is, I did forgive her since at present she takes 3 kinds of Psychotic medications to stabilize her mood/s. I ask my self sometimes...Doesn't a lot of money makes you happy? Especially a thirsty hungry greedy woman like her? Today I KNOW BEST, the answer is NO !..MONEY DON'T BUY HAPPINESS. One must be wise, share and know where the family investment/s go. GUILT is/was the REASON/S ( In her case ) Yes, it can be an added bonus, but ALAS, will not make one happy. I also may add, we are still friends that's because of our 36 years old daughter. Been there done that, rolling in the dust & mud, spinning like a boomerang few times around Now !..Who wants to walk in, or wear my shoes ?? Oh ..B.T.W., for some, or to some. You may LAUGH as much or less at me as you like, feel or want. I GIVE YOU ALL WHO WANTS or FEEL SO, PERMISION TO DO IT... .LOL Why would anyone laugh at your story? Her deceit was nasty. You have amazing courage despite all that has happened to you. ************************************************* Thank you lady...  Who said all men are the same? Same goes for some women to  
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Hmm, I could not write "It is not over till the fat lady sings". That is not pc. When did you know when your marriage/relationship was over? That your future did not have that SO in it? Well I gave her a choice.. the Grey Goose Vodka or me.. came home to another empty bottle. That was... it |
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Hmm, I could not write "It is not over till the fat lady sings". That is not pc. When did you know when your marriage/relationship was over? That your future did not have that SO in it? Well I gave her a choice.. the Grey Goose Vodka or me.. came home to another empty bottle. That was... it Was the vodka drunk in one day? 
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Hmm, I could not write "It is not over till the fat lady sings". That is not pc. When did you know when your marriage/relationship was over? That your future did not have that SO in it? Well I gave her a choice.. the Grey Goose Vodka or me.. came home to another empty bottle. That was... it ******************************************** Cheap
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Edited by
Toodygirl5
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Sun 12/17/17 04:25 PM
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When I started dating again !
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When she told my 9yr old daughter she was leaving. I could have let anything else slide.
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