I've been away from the whole dating scene for quite sometime. What should you say when you approach a woman, so that she doesn't think your a fool?

Not a stupid question....

Just be yourself. She'll either think you're adorable (which is what you want, right?) or she'll laugh at you, and if that happens, you don't want her anyhow, right?

I would just say hey how are you? If you try to use a pick up line she will think you are trying to get in her pants.

Honesty is ALWAYS a refreshing start

You just talk to her like she is a person... try to find something in common, like where you met her, if you were both doing something you enjoy. Strike up a conversation, if she rejects you, so what. You don't know her anyway so it doesn't matter what she thinks. You never know what could happen until you try...

Honestly, I'm not sure why you seem so nervous, you are good looking guy, as long as you can back that up by being a decent person, you will do just fine :)

How about HEY BEAUTIFUL!

The best way that I ever heard was.... Hi, my name is ________, what is your name. Keep it short and uncomplicated.

I think one of the most effective openers during Day Game (approaching women during the day that isn't a bar/club/party scene) is asking for her opinion on something because we all know women LOVE to voice their opinions on things that they can relate to...well actually that's pretty much true for all people lol

I posted this in a different thread:


Mystery, one of the most well-renowned pickup artists, developed the M3 model for pickup and seduction. he said Attraction + Comfort = Seduction. The OPENER, which is what you initially say in order to HOOK, is the first stage of Attraction, or A1 for short.

What you say as an opener in A1 doesn't matter as long as you hook her attention and are able to progress forward onto A2, which is developing female-to-male interest.

The standard type of opener that PUAs mostly use is the Indirect Opener. Don't get this confused with the Situational Opener. A Situational Opener is the LEAST effective type of opener and "nice guys" or AFCs (Average Frustrated Chumps) use these most. An example of a situational opener would be "So...you come here often?" or some kind of comment or question on the surrounding environment. These openers dont HOOK and telegraph too much hidden NERVOUS interest. It's also to fall into the trap of "interview mode" after a situational opener, which is when you barrage the girl with question after boring question. bad bad bad...

The Indirect Opener is an opener that does not telegraph too much initial interest. A common way to deliver an idirect opener is to ask the girl's opinion on something, but make sure you have a ROOT so she doesn't think youre some random guy taking a survey/poll. For example, "Hey I was having this discussion with my friends and I need a female opinion on something. blah blah blah." The first sentence was the root.

Now that I'm done explaining all the textbook material, let me tell you something that dawned on me as I was chillin at a bar one night (New Orleans is awesome...I'm only 18 and I can get into bars). Being a PUA (pickup artist) requires a positive energy and involves bringing happiness into other people's lives. I realized that most indrect openers present some sort of PROBLEM in one way or the other and it's almost as if you are seeking some sort of SOLUTION from the target girl. I think this puts forth somewhat of a negative energy which isn't perfectly appropriate for a bar/club/party setting. So, I just turned my head to a girl at the left of me and asked her, "If you could have any superpower, what would it be?" That led to an excellent conversation without any negative energy at all.

If you want to approach women during the day outside of a party scene, however, it's definitely OK to bring forth a topic that requires some intelligent thinking. Play around with this and have fun!

pua how is that helping them they dont understand that. my advice is say hi. i cant think of anything right now.

Just be yourself, if it helps think of her as just another guy.

i agree with everyone-- be yourself, simple hello, and u r cute so do not worry

you say hey madam.....wanna wear my hat? hehehe

I thought the M3 was a BMW and A1 was a steak sauce. At 18 the point might be picking up but when I'm nearing the big 30 I think the point for me is finding the one to settle down with. I don't want to build attraction by doing this or that, I want someone to be attracted to me because they love my sense of humor, or unique take on things if that takes longer so be it.

I always love the line "are you tired ... cause you've been running thru my mind all night....." and simple hello and go from there ....remember they're just as scaried as you

what about

was your father a thief? Cause he stole the stars and put them in your eyes?

My problem with Mystery and his method is that they all end up coming off like arrogant assholes that think they are so great that women ought to fall at their feet. I had to watch the show though, Mystery is way hot to look at. I just don't like his attitude. And I so wish he would get rid of the furry pimp hat. Maybe I don't like the fact that the nice guys don't seem to succeed at his method and the person who 'wins' had the same arrogant asshole personality as Mystery's crew.

lol oh the lines I think I've heard them all .....

Well, when a guy hits on me...I take him more seriously when he just introduces himself and makes conversation, whether it be asking me questions about myself and telling me about himself. Or just talking about current events, etc. So, I can tell he's interested in getting to know my personality. I don't really like it when they smother me with compliments but arent filling the conversation with any CONVERSATION. I was at the bar last week and this guy came up to me and was talking to me and all he kept saying was how beautiful my eyes were, and other corney compliments (always appreciated, but it can get old when you know they're not sincere). Then after awhile, he invited me back to his place for an "after party" (one that only him and I were invited to). So, basically, he just wanted a piece of the cookie.

Don't worry...I didn't go! haha

And thats just my two pennies

so just a question

do you ladies prefer it if the guy compliments you on things you don't have control over like (beautiful eyes) or on things you actually consciously chose like "I like your sense of style". Or should I just cover all my bases and do both.