Topic: Should I just give up?
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Wed 11/28/07 03:59 PM

ya know, it's really hard to say what women really want. the last woman i was with was a long distance relationship to begin with. i'm in utah, she was in massachusetts. after she moved here, she told me i was too nice and wanted to do too much for her. she said she felt like i was baby sitting her when all i was trying to do was make sure she was having a good time because she didn't know anyone here but me. all this "just be yourself" talk, i think, is b.s. because i was being myself with her; i'm a nice, respectful guy. it's how i was raised. she ditched me after being in utah less than a month. i'm with ya, man. totally ready to give up, but i think it's when we finally let go that things happen. so my advice would be to just let it go, stop worrying about being alone and enjoy it while you can. i know it's easier said than done.


She just 'wasn't' for you. Don't compromise yourself to accomodate some chic man. I learned that one personally. The one for you will love "you" not some 'version' of you. You'll lose yourself and be unhappy.

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Wed 11/28/07 04:01 PM

It's %50 luck, and %50 perseverance.

I really must disagree.
It's more like 70% SKILL and 30% perseverance.
Guys who don't know what theyre doing are out there trying to "get lucky" just flailing around in a hit-or-miss mindset.
The truth is, you can control yourself to shape yourself into a more attractive person who radiates an energy that naturally draws beautiful women toward you, and you can control yourself to execute specific moves that will make a woman laugh, become attracted to you, become aroused, etc.

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Wed 11/28/07 04:05 PM
Edited by nuenjins on Wed 11/28/07 04:06 PM




I think some guys just think that confident, outspoken guys are jerks. The reason they get the girls is because they are not afraid to make the first move, and that makes things more comfortable for the girl.

I second that


However, the woman who falls for that isn't the one you want anyway. you want a wise and cautious woman who keeps her wits about her, someone stable which parallels being steady and loving- patient. If 'that' woman sees you being persistantly genuine, she will recognize and respect your' sincerity. True love will always ease your heart, not confuse your mind or titilate you with 'mystery' and 'exitment'. It can 'be' exiting. But there will always be a firmness within your heart.

sorry, I'm rambling.laugh :tongue: flowerforyou


Oh come on. That's like saying that the man who falls for good looks isn't the one you want. Women respond to social value (directly related to the fearlessness it takes to make the first move, being confident, and being outspoken) just as strongly as men's response to good looks.

First impressions are important. Women make their first first first impression to men with what they wear and stuff related to looks. Men must make a positive first impression with social value if they want a shot with the girl.


I'm not talking about just 'getting women'. I personally could manipulate a womans emotions and 'charm' her into liking me and even further. If that's what you want, I guess that's the way to do it.

I'm speaking of looking for "her". I'm speaking out of experience as I have done both. I now HAVE a true love, and believe me, it's worth waiting for.flowerforyou

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Wed 11/28/07 04:12 PM

I'm not talking about just 'getting women'. I personally could manipulate a womans emotions and 'charm' her into liking me and even further. If that's what you want, I guess that's the way to do it.

I'm speaking of looking for "her". I'm speaking out of experience as I have done both. I now HAVE a true love, and believe me, it's worth waiting for.flowerforyou

hmm i see what you mean
but here are my thoughts about that:
When I was learning Martial Arts, my instructors always told me that it is important to learn this art because of that ONE moment in your life where the right combination of kicks and punches, delivered with the right energy, will save your life.
A lot of the mPUAs (master pickup artists) I have learned from say that it is important to learn pickup arts because of that ONE girl out there you could potentially be happy with for the rest of your life. When you meet her, the right combination of negs and IOIs, delivered with the right attitude, will actually give you two a chance to get to know each other.
Most guys enter a social scene and dozens and dozens and dozens of women just pass by without giving the guy the time of day. What if one of those women were "the one?" That guy doesn't posess the skillset to even start talking to her... Every element of a social interaction, including the ones that involve "charming" the woman and also finding true love, counts.

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Wed 11/28/07 04:15 PM
U try to hard women do like to be respected they also like sum one who show they can control things as well sho self confidence by u postin this most women wud prolly think ur soft or weak thats not hot sum may sho petity and talk to u cuz they feel bad and others will tell u wat u need to kno....dnt go outta ur way to be extra nice b u plp like that try it stop tell em wat the wanna hear and tell em how u feel dnt get all luvie dubie the 2nd wk of talkin be aggressive sum times and if non of this works u can always try the other side of the street and get wit ur own kind u never kno :? gud luck and dnt say i never tried to help

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Wed 11/28/07 04:22 PM

U try to hard women do like to be respected they also like sum one who show they can control things as well sho self confidence by u postin this most women wud prolly think ur soft or weak thats not hot sum may sho petity and talk to u cuz they feel bad and others will tell u wat u need to kno....dnt go outta ur way to be extra nice b u plp like that try it stop tell em wat the wanna hear and tell em how u feel dnt get all luvie dubie the 2nd wk of talkin be aggressive sum times and if non of this works u can always try the other side of the street and get wit ur own kind u never kno :? gud luck and dnt say i never tried to help

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Wed 11/28/07 04:23 PM


I'm not talking about just 'getting women'. I personally could manipulate a womans emotions and 'charm' her into liking me and even further. If that's what you want, I guess that's the way to do it.

I'm speaking of looking for "her". I'm speaking out of experience as I have done both. I now HAVE a true love, and believe me, it's worth waiting for.flowerforyou

hmm i see what you mean
but here are my thoughts about that:
When I was learning Martial Arts, my instructors always told me that it is important to learn this art because of that ONE moment in your life where the right combination of kicks and punches, delivered with the right energy, will save your life.
A lot of the mPUAs (master pickup artists) I have learned from say that it is important to learn pickup arts because of that ONE girl out there you could potentially be happy with for the rest of your life. When you meet her, the right combination of negs and IOIs, delivered with the right attitude, will actually give you two a chance to get to know each other.
Most guys enter a social scene and dozens and dozens and dozens of women just pass by without giving the guy the time of day. What if one of those women were "the one?" That guy doesn't posess the skillset to even start talking to her... Every element of a social interaction, including the ones that involve "charming" the woman and also finding true love, counts.


As long as you enjoy it and your just not trying to "bag chics". But how long can you keep up "the moves" until you just get fed up. I'm a martial artist also, one of my best friends is also my sensei. Confidence in your ability shows through in your body language and eyes. It 'is' true, unsureness is not an attractive trait in anyone, it means they still need to come real with themselves and be comfortable with who they are before they are truly ready to be confident in a relationship and be able to give' all' of theirself.

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Wed 11/28/07 04:25 PM

U try to hard women do like to be respected they also like sum one who show they can control things as well sho self confidence by u postin this most women wud prolly think ur soft or weak thats not hot sum may sho petity and talk to u cuz they feel bad and others will tell u wat u need to kno....dnt go outta ur way to be extra nice b u plp like that try it stop tell em wat the wanna hear and tell em how u feel dnt get all luvie dubie the 2nd wk of talkin be aggressive sum times and if non of this works u can always try the other side of the street and get wit ur own kind u never kno :? gud luck and dnt say i never tried to help


:wink: A REAL woman.flowerforyou bigsmile

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Wed 11/28/07 04:41 PM
ahhhh it is a cycle, women complain there are no good guys, men complain women are too picky and shallow...... hmmmm i guess in my opinion it takes two to tango, and not everyone is meant for everyone, you go with you you go with, some men match some women, others wonder why they haven't found anyone yet whats wrong with them?... well probably nothing at all.... i have seen so many women who have no personalities get the sweetest guy, and the other way around. soooo thats life and no one can explain it dissect it all you want laugh

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Wed 11/28/07 04:44 PM
maja when we goin clubbin? drinker drinker drinker

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Wed 11/28/07 04:47 PM
cheif yeah!laugh laugh laugh I'm getting ready right now! just wait for me!laugh laugh laugh devil

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Wed 11/28/07 04:47 PM
drinker drinker drinker drinker drinker drinker maja when are we going clubbindrinker drinker drinker drinker drinker laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: drinker drinker drinker drinker drinker

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Wed 11/28/07 04:49 PM
i guess were going to have to carpool laugh laugh laugh laugh drinker drinker drinker drinker

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Wed 11/28/07 04:51 PM
Yup bring out the suvdrinker drinker drinker drinker drinker

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Wed 11/28/07 04:52 PM
Maja! your profile says you don't drink! YOURE A FRAUD!!! lol

oh, and i before e. lol

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Wed 11/28/07 04:59 PM
laugh laugh okay ... okay i confess... now arrest me before i get worse!laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 11/28/07 05:06 PM
Edited by fortsmithman on Wed 11/28/07 05:07 PM
Ok then maja if someone ahs to arrest you I will here are your rights
You have the right to remain beautiful
you have the right to go clubbin and partyingdrinker drinker
you have the right to have fun
do you understand these right I have explained to youlaugh laugh

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Wed 11/28/07 05:08 PM
no I'm blonde remember laugh laugh laugh

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Fri 11/30/07 10:41 AM

I think Im a pretty nice guy and I treat every lady I meet with complete respect. Yet no one seems to be interested in me. I just dont understand, my friends tell me Im funny and alot of fun to be around. So whats the problem.


pick me pick me hehehe still wanna wear that hat mr!

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Fri 11/30/07 11:21 AM
hot girls like guys who are sweeet also
lol
so it just depends which girls worth to talk too
bigsmile