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Topic: Distrust is the new black
IgorFrankensteen's photo
Sun 06/04/17 12:50 PM

I hope you are right Igor. I hear alot of sentiment that all politicians are corrupt and alot of sentiment that all cops do their jobs justly


there are GOOD AND BAD cops, and there are GOOD AND BAD politicians


because there are GOOD AND BAD people and no job has an accurate test that weens the 'bad' out completely



There is something which I think it is important for those who want to see clearly, and to find real solutions to problems, to recognize about how people are behaving, especially these days. That is, that there are multiple motivations, even for something as seemingly direct, as saying that all politicians or police are not to be trusted.

I'll use a touchy, but useful current day concern that relates, to explain. Everyone is aware of both the BLM movement, and of the various opponents to the people who advocate in it's favor. In another thread, probably in another forum, talking about the BLM, I suggested that some people who spoke in avid support of that movement, were caught up more in a sort of nostalgic desire to revive the heady days of the early Civil Rights movement, than they were to specifically deal with real problems of today, and that that sort of thing was actually bad for the movement they supported, because it set off resistance to it, which might otherwise at least keep silent. I was attacked as a white racist by some because I did.

This relates here, because SOME people who claim to believe that all Police are suspect, are saying so more as a way to declare allegiance to a cause, than because they actually believe it. It's rather like the "litmus tests" that the Republican Party have demanded of their membership over the last two decades. In order to be a fully supported GOP candidate, one had to at least SAY that they virulently opposed abortion, or that they blindly opposed any new taxes.

Similarly, some people declare that anyone who DOES complain about police misbehaving towards certain Americans are inherently "bad," do so for the same basic reason: they feel that they MUST declare firmly that all police CRITICS are "bad," in order to show THEIR opposition to everything from 1970's style liberalism, to a long list of other concerns which they connect in their minds to that one single concept, whether it actually connects up at all.

In short, lots of people proclaim one or the other statements to be true, even though they really don't believe anything of the kind, when it comes down to it. But they are afraid to admit that they know better, for fear that they will appear irresolute about their ACTUAL concerns.

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Sun 06/04/17 01:10 PM


People are people no matter what they wear and there's no changing that so why we should expect anything different than what our eyes see on a daily basis ..is nothing more than wishful thinking..spock

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Sun 06/04/17 01:37 PM
why it is so acceptable to assume all politicians are crooked, but so unacceptable to believe cops in some areas are bullies/crooks.

Why is it so acceptable?
Or why does there seem to be less vocal outrage from blanket statements regarding the "crookedness" of politicians vs. any "crookedness" of police, as a group?

There is a difference.

Other than that, it should be pretty obvious.

Politicians and cops represent 2 different social groups.

Just because you label or define them solely as "authority figures" doesn't mean that's how most everyone else identifies, labels, recognizes, the two separate social groups.

Might as well ask "why is it so acceptable to castigate teens for bad decision making, but so unacceptable to make fun of people with down's syndrome? They both have brain development issues."

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 06/05/17 11:03 AM
I could be wrong but I don't see/hear blanket statements saying anything like that.

Politicians are more across the country where cops are limited.

I know I have never said there is all bad or good. Generalizations are never accuracte

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Mon 06/05/17 12:09 PM
I could have sworn when I first saw this thread a few days ago it was just called distrust.

Then I looked again and saw the word black.

I wonder why.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 06/05/17 12:13 PM

I could have sworn when I first saw this thread a few days ago it was just called distrust.

Then I looked again and saw the word black.

I wonder why.


It was

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Mon 06/05/17 12:18 PM


I could have sworn when I first saw this thread a few days ago it was just called distrust.

Then I looked again and saw the word black.

I wonder why.


It was

Says it all really.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 06/05/17 12:19 PM
:thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Mon 06/05/17 03:43 PM

I could have sworn when I first saw this thread a few days ago it was just called distrust.

Then I looked again and saw the word black.

I wonder why.


I do too, unless you saw it when I initially posted it because I changed it immediately after


the word 'black' refers to something being in fashion, not race


so I wonder what there is to wonder about....?

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Mon 06/05/17 07:26 PM
I don't see there being any more or less trust in cops and politicians than in the past except by those who chose to jump on the BLM bandwagon or are mad at the Obama era is over and Hillary wasn't elected. So in a way I do see it as a black and white issue, however blacks have always had a distrust of authority, often times with good reason. However you can't change people unless they chose to want to change, so until the black community can come up with something that works for everyone things will not change. I think people are less patriotic and less brainwashed than they used to be, and they have many more sources for information (right or wrong) now days, and are able to voice their opinions to a much wider base of people makes a difference in peoples reactions. But as I've said before people have a short memory of things that have happened in the past, there for they focus on what is in front of them at the time they are in. In many ways the police forces and politics are a lot more likely to fallow the rules at the risk of getting caught, I don't believe there are nearly the amount of bribes

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