Topic: Gunman wanted to kill as many white people as possible
msharmony's photo
Wed 04/19/17 07:39 PM
the statement made was that violent people do violent things

not much to debate,,,,

adj4u's photo
Wed 04/19/17 08:09 PM
Edited by adj4u on Wed 04/19/17 08:39 PM



how odd and sad, people are snapping for no apparent reason,,,


I hope the victims families receive justice for their loss


Yeah, no apparent reason........whoa With Barry and the Black Lives Matters getting people to over react.........


yeah, that was the reason,,,whoa




reason---a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event.


Lpdon's photo
Thu 04/20/17 05:30 AM

statistically mass murders in america are fractional... very very low especially considering how many gun owners exist in america...typical liberal bs blaming the gun for the shooting...and this guy wanted to kill as many white people as possible yet only got four total...an avid gun enthusiast could've done that with a bb gun...the good ole msm at work again let's blame guns for shootings and make sure racial issues remain a problem for everyone...


Aren't you on the Battlbox forum?

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Thu 04/20/17 05:33 AM

least restrictive gun laws by state

http://www.deseretnews.com/top/3430/0/The-10-states-with-the-least-restrictive-gun-laws.html

the restrictiveness of their laws and how they rank on gun deaths compared to other states are all over the chart,,,there is no clear correlation that lax gun laws reduce gun death,,

not that this thread was making any argument about gun laws


Strict gun laws sure as hell don't reduce death. Chicago has the strictest in the country and they also have the highest homicide rate by a gun too and guess what 95% of those are by people who can not legally own a gun.

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/20/17 08:07 AM


least restrictive gun laws by state

http://www.deseretnews.com/top/3430/0/The-10-states-with-the-least-restrictive-gun-laws.html

the restrictiveness of their laws and how they rank on gun deaths compared to other states are all over the chart,,,there is no clear correlation that lax gun laws reduce gun death,,

not that this thread was making any argument about gun laws


Strict gun laws sure as hell don't reduce death. Chicago has the strictest in the country and they also have the highest homicide rate by a gun too and guess what 95% of those are by people who can not legally own a gun.


there is no conclusive evidence that lax laws or strict laws reduce deaths.

37ko's photo
Thu 04/20/17 08:27 AM
I didn't even know what the battlbox forum was...thanks that's definitely my type of site...as far as gun restrictions etc. there is a staggering correlation between mass shootings and gun free zones...gee wonder why

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/20/17 08:34 AM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 04/20/17 08:37 AM

I didn't even know what the battlbox forum was...thanks that's definitely my type of site...as far as gun restrictions etc. there is a staggering correlation between mass shootings and gun free zones...gee wonder why


there is a staggering correlation between gun owners and mass shootings ,,,should I wonder why?

whoa

shooters are not choosing sites because of gun laws,,, they choose political or personal targets and many times with an expectation of dying,,,,

and in this case, which happened in DOWNTOWN fresno,, I doubt the shooter researched gun laws either

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/20/17 09:41 AM
Shootings do happen with or without strict gun laws. There are crazies all over the world. But law abiding gun owners know that guns are for hunting and protection. If good people can't arm themselves, they are sitting ducks. Those that mean harm or crimes, usually don't get the guns legally or they can be traced to them. Criminals will always get guns anywhere. Look at making drugs illegal, has that stopped drug use?

In places, like Texas, those that mean harm or crime are taking bigger risks because they don't know who is packing either

mightymoe's photo
Thu 04/20/17 10:22 AM

we are all just the result of our experiences, opportunities, and exposure,,,


we focus so much on blaming in a blanket fashion, and not enough on understanding the details that culminate into these things,,,
a blanket?.... His admitted reason is he hates white people...

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/20/17 10:24 AM


we are all just the result of our experiences, opportunities, and exposure,,,


we focus so much on blaming in a blanket fashion, and not enough on understanding the details that culminate into these things,,,
a blanket?.... His admitted reason is he hates white people...


Under the law, that is a hate crime

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Thu 04/20/17 05:38 PM
Edited by greeneyes148 on Thu 04/20/17 05:40 PM

we are all just the result of our experiences, opportunities, and exposure,,,


we focus so much on blaming in a blanket fashion, and not enough on understanding the details that culminate into these things,,,


So people are now dead because of his experiences?. Or exposure. Who gives a s**t about understanding why he did this. other then it was a pure hate crime.

He hated white people.. so he attacked them. Are we to understand and accept some off the wall explanation for this?.. as if something would validate this?

It is a classic hate crime.. period.


37ko's photo
Thu 04/20/17 09:14 PM
wow really?? u don't think a criminal who wants to kill people isn't aware of gun free zones?! most of these people are cowards to begin with so wouldn't it make sense that they would shoot up a place where they know no one is shooting back??? gun owner doesn't equal mass murderer....I own A LOT of guns and have never once so much as pointed one at another human being... talk s%*t on guns all you want but you better hope you're never in a situation where you need one and don't have it...pencils don't misspell words, cars don't cause accidents and a trigger isn't pulled by the gun

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/20/17 10:43 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 04/20/17 10:46 PM

wow really?? u don't think a criminal who wants to kill people isn't aware of gun free zones?! most of these people are cowards to begin with so wouldn't it make sense that they would shoot up a place where they know no one is shooting back??? gun owner doesn't equal mass murderer....I own A LOT of guns and have never once so much as pointed one at another human being... talk s%*t on guns all you want but you better hope you're never in a situation where you need one and don't have it...pencils don't misspell words, cars don't cause accidents and a trigger isn't pulled by the gun


no, I dont believe people unstable enough to commit mass shootings have researched the gun laws first,,,

noone has argued that gun owner equals mass murderer and noone has talked anything about guns



there is a lot of projection happening in this thread


from a simple statement that violent people do violent things

even though many tangents have tried to lay blame on anything from Obama, to BLM, to muslim names,

the analogy that PEOPLE kill is apparently lost,,,,unless you mention guns,,,

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Thu 04/20/17 11:47 PM
Edited by Unknow on Thu 04/20/17 11:56 PM

wow really?? u don't think a criminal who wants to kill people isn't aware of gun free zones?! most of these people are cowards to begin with so wouldn't it make sense that they would shoot up a place where they know no one is shooting back??? gun owner doesn't equal mass murderer....I own A LOT of guns and have never once so much as pointed one at another human being... talk s%*t on guns all you want but you better hope you're never in a situation where you need one and don't have it...pencils don't misspell words, cars don't cause accidents and a trigger isn't pulled by the gun


You say you've never pointed a gun at another human being but in the next breath proclaimed you're more than ready to do so should the need arise. You also admit to owning many guns, how many can you shoot at one time?. Are you planning to stage your own Waco? The problem seems to be the mere availabilty of the weapons. Don't you have to reach a certain age before you're able to walk into a store and purchase these weapons. If they were so innocuous, why the wait?

37ko's photo
Fri 04/21/17 01:21 AM
no I've never aimed a gun at anyone but that doesn't mean I haven't had one close by and used it to diffuse a potentially bad situation...you don't hunt deer with a .22 you don't hunt rabbit with a .308 and you don't shoot clays with a ar-15 hence many guns for many things...go to your local range and get educated on the subject instead of making assumptions

37ko's photo
Fri 04/21/17 01:25 AM
why wait til 16 to drive a car why wait til 21 to drink why 18 for tobacco...you want a child buying a gun? i dont

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Fri 04/21/17 01:31 AM

no I've never aimed a gun at anyone but that doesn't mean I haven't had one close by and used it to diffuse a potentially bad situation...you don't hunt deer with a .22 you don't hunt rabbit with a .308 and you don't shoot clays with a ar-15 hence many guns for many things...go to your local range and get educated on the subject instead of making assumptions


Go to a shooting range to get an education lol. I've been to a weapons experience day once. Over the course of the entire day shooting many different weapons I scores 98% accuracy. I have no interest in owning such weapons. I don't need to issue the threat of death to DEFUSE a situation. Maybe it's you that needs more education?

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Fri 04/21/17 01:42 AM

why wait til 16 to drive a car why wait til 21 to drink why 18 for tobacco...you want a child buying a gun? i dont


Age isn't always an indication of maturity or common sense.

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Fri 04/21/17 02:23 AM
I also heard that, you know they only arrested him, after what he did, I'm surprised they didn't shoot him and kill him on the spot.

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Fri 04/21/17 02:29 AM
No, I'm talking about the gunman, I'm surprised the police or security forces didn't shoot to kill him on the spot after what he had just done, they just arrested him, they were very lenient.