I've heard people scream ooohh God! ooohh God!!
That was REAL real!

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i just believe in God...always have but unfortunately wont find out till I die if my faith in Him was warranted.What or who He is doesnt matter to me.I just know we are apart of something greater than ourselves and there is much beauty in the simple things in life.

You can’t go wrong having faith in God.

Would it seriously change your life if you didn’t believe in God?

By that, I mean would that have an affect on how you live or behave?

It wouldn’t change my lifestyle one way or the other. I just coincidentally want to live life in a way that appears to be acceptable to almost all pictures of God.

I mean, if I went outside one day and saw giant dust bunnies flying in the sky with megaphones shouting:

“ATTENTION HUMANS!”

“ATTENTION HUMANS!”

“THERE IS NO GOD FOR HUMANS!”

“THERE IS ONLY A GOD FOR DUST BUNNIES!”

“SORRY FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE THIS MAY HAVE CAUSED!”

“YOU MAY NOW RETURN TO YOUR PATHETIC MORTAL LIVES”

That wouldn’t change my lifestyle one iota.

Other than the fact that I might build a garage to protect my car from bunny droppings.


*Edited to pet a dust bunny*

ok scientist say it was the big bang theory but who put all those atoms and particles there to cause the big bang theory???

GOD did !!!!!!!!!!

You might be surprised just how much the theory actually has to say about that!

However, trying to use God as an explanation for existence just passes the buck.

Then you’d have to ask what started God?

To say that God just always existed is really just saying that you don’t want to think about these things.

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why does everything have to be proven?can people not just accept it that everyone has different beliefs and move on?if people spend their whole lives trying to prove or disprove something,they're going to miss life!

Yes I can, he's standing right here beside me.

proof? look around. Observe the intricate complexity of our planet, the universe, a tree, the way all organisms are interdependent of each other.... The bible being in perfect harmony with the scientific evidence..... shall i continue?
I believe also that for some to admit a God is to accept bible teachings at face value, a leap they are not willing to take since it would require admitting thier lifestyle is destructive both to them and to society. Much easier to shoot the messanger, or belittle those who believe.

Wouldn’t it be great if there was a way to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that God exists? Well actually there is. It does require some effort on your part though.
Have you ever been at a job that hires a lot of school age kids? Have you ever heard one say to coworkers or tell his boss “Hey, if you pay me more I’ll work harder!”. We all look at him and try to explain that it doesn’t work that way. Work harder and you’ll earn a raise.
Proving God’s existence is a lot like that. It can be proved but only to yourself not as common knowledge. If you have faith, attend church, study the bible (with an open heart), and believe God exists, then he’ll show you beyond a doubt that he does exist.
The inability to “prove” God’s existence is by design. The less you need proof, the more proof you’ll get.
Just beware when someone tells you that their religion is better because you get to do whatever you want. Even a moderate amount of wisdom should raise a red flag when someone offers you an easier path.

I don't usually add a reply to a post I have not read completely, but I was thinking out this question and how I might reply.

Having been exposed to many religions, first hand, I walked away from all of them with this reasoning.

I can not prove that there is not a 'creator'. I can not prove that some distant extremely advanced civilization from another galaxy or dimension did not sew the seeds of life on this planet. Nor can I prove that any 'life-form' outside the realm of the physical exists, much less have the ability of perception, critical thought or reason. Or that such an entity, without a physical nature could or would create on this physical plane.

However, if any of the concepts above are true, then there would the same questions. Why? Who? When? Purpose? If there are answers to any of the questions, they are not made clear.
I would expect that such answers might be difficult to come by, if we are talking about a 'plan' by an alien life form, for many reasons, most of which have to do with time and decay.

But if one is considering the creation by a God, such as the God described through the Bible, then it makes no sense what-so-ever that this God would not be able to provide clear and concise information about Itself, It's purpose, and what, if anything our involvement is with regard to those answeres.

To me, a God who can not control the flow if information between the universe of it's being and the universe of it's creation, is not a God that fits the description of the Bible. Surely if games are not the intention of such a god, than that god would have much better control of the communication process.

That being said, on the other hand, I can not prove, either, that we are not god created, by a god who simply want to sit back and ponder what such creatures might do.

At any rate, those were the things that affecte the choice I made, the choice to break such bonds and cast away the limitations that having faith requires. I am certain that there is far more truth to be had in this life time than to waste on 'truths' of potential beings, whose presence is by faith alone.

God did come to Earth and prove his existance, you are just choosing to not believe the recorded history of it. Asking him to prove it to each person individually on the planet throughout all time makes no sense. The burden of proof is on you, not him.

For God to expect us to believe other men is unreasonable.

There are far too many examples of crackpots to make that a worthy thing to expect of people.

There are also many other religions that claim to have divine entities. Why should we believe one account over another? Why should the stories that came out of Middle Eastern history carry any more weight than any other historical accounts of divinity?

Edited to add:
I should even add that all of the people of the Middle East don't even buy into it! Islam doesn't buy it and neither does Judaism.

Ah, so World War 2 didn't happen because we cannot trust the historians that wrote about it? The Romans never existed because we have no proof other than written accounts and some ruins?

If I was to produce evidence of God what would it be? What would it take to prove it? Him coming down and signing autographs? Photo ops with Paris Hilton? Maybe we can ask him to send you something notarized in the mail. Actually, wait a minute. How do I know YOU exist?
It’s arrogant to insist God prove to you his existence. He sent his only son to die on the cross for your sins, I would assume that thinks he’s done enough.

Like I said before, if you really want to know he exists there’s a path to follow. It’s not a 123 path, it takes some faith, the opening of your heart, and letting go of your human tendency to need instant gratification. You will not find what you seek in a message on an Internet site either. It takes a little more effort than that.

I don’t have any problem believing that a man named Jesus lived and preached. I have no problem believing that he was crucified by the Romans on a cross. None of these things proves, or even suggests that he was God.

You’re analogy of believing in historical events is someone off target here. Moreover, the winning historians always tend to write things to make history sound like they were the GOOD GUYS!!!

I think if you compare the history of the White Man with the History of both the American Indians, and the African Slaves you will get two entirely different pictures of who the heroes were in history !!!

So it’s not the history itself that is in question, but rather whether or not Jesus was actually God or just an overly exaggerated martyr who was made into a God.



I don’t think it’s arrogant at all for someone to wish to know their creator personally.

Also, if Jesus died for my sins on the Cross he’s due a HUGE refund, because as he way OVERPAID!!!

I have never done anything in my entire life that would merit such a gruesome inhumane death.

To ask me to accept that Jesus died for my sins is to ask me to condone what happened to him for MY SAKE! That I CANNOT DO! As I do not CONDONE IT!

However, having said that, I have actually accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savor many decades ago. As far as I’m concerned that offer is still open should he choose to accept it. The ball’s already in his court, it’s up to him to act on that one. I’ve already done what he requested of me.



Your assumption that I’m searching for anything is unfounded.

I already have a relationship with god, thank you. I am already at peace with my creator. I have no need for any instant gratification. Why you would assume such a thing about someone you don’t even know is totally beyond me.

I have no problem with you believing what you believe. If you want to believe that Jesus died for your sins, and that he is the creator of this universe, and so on an so forth that’s fine with me. However, if you are going to come onto the Interent and try to “sell” that view, then I’ll offer to you the reasons why it’s “no sale” here.

I actually respect the moral values that Jesus taught. They fall in perfect alignment with the 12 Laws of Karma.

Jesus was indeed an exceptional and enlightened man (although certainly not the only human being to exhibit these qualities). If Jesus came here today I know that he would view me as his brother. I have no doubt about that whatsoever. He taught that we will be judged by the same measure that we judge others, so if his word is any good, then he will accept me with open arms.

I trust that his word is good.

All I need to know is that he is a nicer guy than me. Then I know I’m safe.

If the opposite turns out to be true then it doesn’t really matter does it?

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Please note that it's not my intent to 'denounce' your beliefs or faith. If you are happy with the way that you believe then more power to you!

But if you are here to "sell" your beliefs then be prepared to hear my explanations of why I'm not buying.

If you want to tell me that you love Jesus and that's what you live for, then MORE POWER TO YOU! I wish you the very best in the most sincere possible way!

But if you're here to convince me that I need to do the same, then you're a salesman and will be treated as such.

(i.e. your product will be QUESTIONED!)

I agree that the concept of god, big brother, who watches to make sure you live a just and right life, is man made. It helps man resolve those many unanswered questions he has for why he is here, what is his purpose and what is right.

I am also a believer in respecting others religions as long as they respect my view on it.

All religions need at least one martyr who gave the ultimate sacrifice for the religion. Jesus was this martyr for the christian religion. Whether a man walked the earth as the story tells or not is irrelavant to the religion. If you look at most religions the leap of faith must be large to accept the teachings. Example: christianity has an incestuous beginning for mankind. Hard to swallow if you are of a scientific mind but people do accept it as reality.

The existance of god is personal. If he exists for you and you get something spiritual from it then that is all good for you. (I say "he" but I personally would not believe god to have a sex) If others do not get the same from the religion it is not for them and they should not be judged as bad or wrong for it.

I know each religion teaches it is the one true religion and that all others are ignorant of the truth but one must put into account that others believe differently from them and it is okay for them to be that way and they will go to their "heaven" after death, not yours.

That's the key right there.

When someone tries to shove their religion down my throat I react, not by trying to shove mine down theirs, but buy shoving their own religion right back on them in regurgitated form.

But what would it take for you to feel comfortable with the bibles account? At some point you have to trust and have a little faith. To always require absolute proof of everything must be a cumbersome way to live.


No, it's arrogant to demand it.



Some of your posts rejecting the "biblical" God border on, if not actually are blasphemy of the Holy Spirit which is the only unforgivable sin. I'm just guessing that their might be more. Either way you would have to ask to be forgiven which I'm sure won't happen.



You obviously didn't or we wouldn't be having this conversation. You seem to contridict yourself often. How can you accept someone as your Lord and Saviour if you don't believe they are real? BTW, teh ball is never in His court, it's always in yours. If you've gone to church as much as you claim, you should know that.



That was actually more for the benefit of others that might be reading this that are searching. I think you feel you've found what you were looking for. I'm just trying to keep anyone from following you over the cliff.



The reason I posted in response to you is because I'm not buying what you are selling. Originally, someone asked about proof of God. I told them how I got my proof. I'm not selling anything.



I really wish I had the free time some of you seem to have. I really did not want to get into this type of argument. I'm way too busy for this nonsense. The real short version is that if you want to know for sure God exists you have to seek him out. The clouds aren't going to open up set a bush on fire and ask you if you're satisfied.
I can't really keep this back and forth stuff up. It doesn't seem to make a difference anyway.

I don’t require proof for anything. However, I do tend to believe what is reasonable over that which is unreasonable.

I see nothing cumbersome about this at all. On the contrary it seems to be to be the most intelligent way to approach life.



Arrogance means ‘self-importance’. I see nothing self-important about demanding at least some significant believable evidence in anything before I believe it, and that includes a belief in a speicific religion.

Keep in mind here, we aren’t speaking about a belief in ‘god’, we are speaking about believing in a particular picture of god. I already have a very reasonable picture of god that makes much more sense to me that what I consider to be “Middle Eastern Mythology”



I’m not sure what ‘blasphemy’ is?

Is that a rejection of God? Or the rejection of a particular religion?

If it is the rejection of a particular religion, then according to Catholics Protestants are blasphemists, and according to Protestants Catholics are blasphemists. And let’s not forget about all of the other religions of the world.

On the other hand, if blasphemy is the rejection of god then I am not a blasphemist since I believe in god. Just not in the same way that you do.



I did believe that Jesus was god when I accepted him as my Lord and Savior. But I have since changed my mind about that. He never showed up for one thing. And, like I said in my previous post, I finally realized that to accept that Jesus died for my sins would mean that I condone what the Roman’s did to him for my sake!!! And that I refuse to do!



I have no desire to sway anyone away from Christianity. I just share my views and let people decide for themselves. I’m not asking anyone to believe like I do. There are no prizes for believing like I do. My god will accept you no matter what you believe. Her love is truly unconditional.



I think you went a little further to suggest that others can also believe like you if they are simply willing to have a little faith.

I could say the same thing to your sir. You could believe like I do if you are just willing to have a little faith.



I couldn’t agree more.



Supposedly they did for Moses. Why not us?



I agree. We have two differnet pictures of God and that’s that.

I have absolutely no desire to change your mind about god. If you have no desire to change mine then there’s nothing to argue about.