Topic: Censoring Santa?
TelephoneMan's photo
Sat 11/17/07 05:11 PM
I've been Santa twice in my life, and I did the red suit thing pretty well... and I think I have the best "Ho, ho, ho" in the business... and I'd have to say it is a completely twisted mind that would think "Ho, ho, ho" meant anything else...

TelephoneMan's photo
Sat 11/17/07 05:15 PM
by the way.....

"HO, HO HO... MER-R-R-R-R-R-R-Y CHRISTMAS !!!!!"

Fanta46's photo
Sat 11/17/07 11:27 PM
Why yall got to dish on old Saint Nick fer!!

Some of my fondest memories are of Christmas!
Stubbornly trying to stay awake,
Just so I could see Santa Clause and maybe Rudolph!

writing letters to Santa,
Listening to my mother
sing along to "Silent Night,"
or sing along with Bing,
to White Christmas!

If you dont believe in Santa,
Just watch "Miracle on 42nd Street,"
the old version.....

texasrose9's photo
Sun 11/18/07 06:47 PM
That was a great movie!

TelephoneMan's photo
Sun 11/18/07 07:05 PM
ummm...

Could that be "Miracle of 34th Street"...?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039628/


:smile: :smile:

scttrbrain's photo
Sun 11/18/07 07:34 PM

"American Origins: (As sent to me by Brian Dodd)
Quote from ENCARTA 95

The American version of the Santa Claus figure received its inspiration and its name from the Dutch legend of Sinter Klaas, brought by settlers to New York in the 17th century.

As early as 1773 the name appeared in the American press as "St. A Claus," but it was the popular author Washington Irving who gave Americans their first detailed information about the Dutch version of Saint Nicholas. In his History of New York, published in 1809 under the pseudonym Diedrich Knickerbocker, Irving described the arrival of the saint on horseback (unaccompanied by Black Peter) each Eve of Saint Nicholas.

This Dutch-American Saint Nick achieved his fully Americanized form in 1823 in the poem A Visit From Saint Nicholas more commonly known as The Night Before Christmas by writer Clement Clarke Moore. Moore included such details as the names of the reindeer; Santa Claus's laughs, winks, and nods; and the method by which Saint Nicholas, referred to as an elf, returns up the chimney. (Moore's phrase "lays his finger aside of his nose" was drawn directly from Irving's 1809 description.)



The American image of Santa Claus was further elaborated by illustrator Thomas Nast, who depicted a rotund Santa for Christmas issues of Harper's magazine from the 1860s to the 1880s. Nast added such details as Santa's workshop at the North Pole and Santa's list of the good and bad children of the world. A human-sized version of Santa Claus, rather than the elf of Moore's poem, was depicted in a series of illustrations for Coca-Cola advertisements introduced in 1931. In modern versions of the Santa Claus legend, only his toy-shop workers are elves. Rudolph, the ninth reindeer, with a red and shiny nose, was invented in 1939 by an advertising writer for the Montgomery Ward Company.

In looking for the historical roots of Santa Claus, one must go very deep in the past. One discovers that Santa Claus as we know him is a combination of many different legends and mythical creatures.

The basis for the Christian-era Santa Claus is Bishop Nicholas of Smyrna (Izmir), in what is now Turkey. Nicholas lived in the 4th century A.D. He was very rich, generous, and loving toward children. Often he gave joy to poor children by throwing gifts in through their windows.

The Orthodox Church later raised St. Nicholas, miracle worker, to a position of great esteem. It was in his honor that Russia's oldest church, for example, was built. For its part, the Roman Catholic Church honored Nicholas as one who helped children and the poor. St. Nicholas became the patron saint of children and seafarers. His name day is December 6th.

In the Protestant areas of central and northern Germany, St. Nicholas later became known as der Weinachtsmann. In England he came to be called Father Christmas. St. Nicholas made his way to the United States with Dutch immigrants, and began to be referred to as Santa Claus.

In North American poetry and illustrations, Santa Claus, in his white beard, red jacket and pompom-topped cap, would sally forth on the night before Christmas in his sleigh, pulled by eight reindeer, and climb down chimneys to leave his gifts in stockings children set out on the fireplace's mantelpiece.

Children naturally wanted to know where Santa Claus actually came from. Where did he live when he wasn't delivering presents? Those questions gave rise to the legend that Santa Claus lived at the North Pole, where his Christmas-gift workshop was also located.

In 1925, since grazing reindeer would not be possible at the North Pole, newspapers revealed that Santa Claus in fact lived in Finnish Lapland. "Uncle Markus", Markus Rautio, who compared the popular "Children's hour" on Finnish public radio, revealed the great secret for the first time in 1927: Santa Claus lives on Lapland's Korvatunturi - "Ear Fell"

The fell, which is situated directly on Finland's eastern frontier, somewhat resembles a hare's ears - which are in fact Santa Claus's ears, with which he listens to hear if the world's children are being nice. Santa has the assistance of a busy group of elves, who have quite their own history in Scandinanvian legend.

Over the centuries, customs from different parts of the Northern Hemisphere thus came together and created the whole world's Santa Claus - the ageless, timeless, deathless white-bearded man who gives out gifts on Christmas and always returns to Korvatunturi in Finnish Lapland.

Since the 1950s, Santa has happily sojourned at Napapiiri, near Rovaniemi, at times other than Christmas, to meet children and the young at heart. By 1985 his visits to Napapiiri had become so regular that he established his own Santa Claus Office there. He comes there every day of the year to hear what children want for Christmas and to talk with children who have arrived from around the world. Santa Claus Village is also the location of Santa's main Post Office, which receives children's letters from the four corners of the world.


HO HO HO HO HO HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Better not say ":ha ha ha ha ha" to me. I smell a law suit...laugh

Kat

wouldee's photo
Sun 11/18/07 07:41 PM

Hey, wouldn't it be funny if the Santas were saying, "Ha - HA - HA' and then some customer got offended because they thought Santa was laughing at them?


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

then they sue cause they tripped over themselves!!! GBA

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sun 11/18/07 07:56 PM
Santa represents goodwill and family to me.I also read somewhere some people want Santa to lose weight in this country.As if.......I love Santa,midnight mass and the family time.
i hate the commercialism but whos fault is it eh?We buy in to the whole expensive gift thing as consumers.Retailers go by customer demand kids.
As for the ho ho ho does this mean we may have to change the name of the garden impliment?People really need to get a grip about what is truly important in life.Leave Santa the f@#$k alone.drinker

s1owhand's photo
Sun 11/18/07 08:00 PM
justsayho

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Mon 11/19/07 10:14 AM
isnt santa a lie anyway? i for one dont lie to kids, and i expect the same in return. I have no problem with taking santa out of Christmas, the easter bunny out of easter, and the tooth fairy. We lie to our kids about such things and then we dont understand why they would lie to us. Hmmmmmm

Fanta46's photo
Mon 11/19/07 10:28 AM
Yes, thats it tele!!!!laugh laugh drinker

Fanta46's photo
Mon 11/19/07 10:31 AM
Not if you believe he aint Rambill!!!
Not if you believe!!!grumble bigsmile

Fanta46's photo
Mon 11/19/07 10:34 AM
While your at it, take away Dr. Suess too, and movies and the idea that they can grow up to be President one day!!laugh laugh

blueeyesinfl's photo
Mon 11/19/07 10:46 AM
I am offended that all the local governments aren't putting up Christmas decorations, oh but wait it doesn't matter that I am offended but the 1 in 10,000 people matters.

Fanta46's photo
Mon 11/19/07 10:48 AM
Asheville Did!!drinker flowerforyou

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Mon 11/19/07 12:30 PM
Oh!!! I thought this thread said "Censoring Fanta":wink: laugh laugh laugh laugh

Twitch's photo
Mon 11/19/07 12:45 PM
I heard about this over the weekend - this Ho Ho Ho crap. Really pisses me off.grumble

Santa was using Ho Ho Ho as long as I can remember. He was using it long before any of us started calling each other Ho's. Somebody's got toooooooooooooooo much time on their hands again. Somebody's Ho Ho got twisted!!!!!!grumble :angry:

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Mon 11/19/07 01:05 PM
Just like God just because ya cant see santa,easter bunny ortooth fairy doesnt mean they dont exist.My son believes in all those things so as long as he does then they are real.

s1owhand's photo
Mon 11/19/07 06:43 PM
"Once again, we come to the Holiday Season, a deeply religious time that each of us observes, in his own way, by going to the mall of his choice. "

-Dave Barry

CountryAngel1017's photo
Mon 11/19/07 11:00 PM
No Santa that I've ever seen has bellowed out his "ho, ho, ho!" in a tone of voice that could possibly be mistaken for a rapper referring to a female in a derogatory manner!

This PC stuff drives me crazier every year!!