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Topic: Clinton snubbed by more 'faithless electors' than Trump
adj4u's photo
Fri 12/23/16 10:41 AM





yes, contrary to popular opinion, that wasn't a democrat republican thing,, people from across the political spectrum supported doing what was possible and legal to prevent a presidency that was not supported by the MAJORITY

many want california and new york to decide the president

truth be told she was behind in the popular vote till california
overwhelmingly voted for her (what state has the most illegal aliens
wonder how many voted illegally)

you need an id for almost everything else an id to vote should be enforced



many dont want living in california or new york to make the individual any less or more significant

only when IDs come without cost


people on welfare must have an id and a birth certificate so cost is
not a good argument

but yes i agree id should be without cost as should anything the govt
wants you to give theman id for (car boat and aircraft registration
to name a few and licensing such as fishing hunting and driving)
these are things for the govt to follow you around so yes they should be free)



welfare does not REQUIRE a photo id,,,,actually,

and welfare, unlike voting, is not an express citizenship right, you must be found 'eligible'


but we do agree if something is required for exercising a right, it should be provided free of cost


everyone i have known on govt asst has had to have a photo id and
i have known a few but have moved away from them

msharmony's photo
Fri 12/23/16 10:44 AM
yeah,, perhaps because they had one

there are other acceptable forms of proof if they did not though,,

..coming from someone who has both worked in and been a recipient of welfare in the past

adj4u's photo
Fri 12/23/16 10:47 AM

yeah,, perhaps because they had one

there are other acceptable forms of proof if they did not though,,

..coming from someone who has both worked in and been a recipient of welfare in the past



i am sure it vary's from state to state

msharmony's photo
Fri 12/23/16 10:56 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 12/23/16 10:57 AM


yeah,, perhaps because they had one

there are other acceptable forms of proof if they did not though,,

..coming from someone who has both worked in and been a recipient of welfare in the past



i am sure it vary's from state to state


quite possibly

many do not know there is FEDERAL welfare and STATE welfare,

it is a federal grant but it is a program that the state must also contribute to

for this reason, there are some things that the state is given discretion over, like income limits, for example

though I do think it is uniform that one cant be turned down for lack of a photo id alone, the caseworker will have other ways to verify identity

msharmony's photo
Fri 12/23/16 11:29 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 12/23/16 11:30 AM
the 'rules' allow for faithless electors and recounts

just like trials allow for appeals


so whats the problem with using the 'rules' for ones advantage, its what our President Elect does with bankruptcies and tax laws,,isnt it

mightymoe's photo
Fri 12/23/16 11:42 AM
i don't understand how electors can change their vote, if they are voting according to the people in their district...

msharmony's photo
Fri 12/23/16 11:48 AM
in some states they can and in some states they cannot

The function of the College of Electors in choosing the president can be likened to that in the Roman Catholic Church of the College of Cardinals selecting the Pope. The original idea was for the most knowledgeable and informed individuals from each State to select the president based solely on merit and without regard to State of origin or political party.

http://uselectionatlas.org/INFORMATION/INFORMATION/electcollege_history.php


so, some states give the responsibility to elect by 'merit' and not a requirement to vote by popular vote




mightymoe's photo
Fri 12/23/16 11:51 AM

in some states they can and in some states they cannot

The function of the College of Electors in choosing the president can be likened to that in the Roman Catholic Church of the College of Cardinals selecting the Pope. The original idea was for the most knowledgeable and informed individuals from each State to select the president based solely on merit and without regard to State of origin or political party.

http://uselectionatlas.org/INFORMATION/INFORMATION/electcollege_history.php


so, some states give the responsibility to elect by 'merit' and not a requirement to vote by popular vote






at least they saw through the liberal lies this time...

msharmony's photo
Fri 12/23/16 11:52 AM
too bad more didnt see through the conservative lies whoa

mightymoe's photo
Fri 12/23/16 11:56 AM

too bad more didnt see through the conservative lies whoa


and which lies would you be referring to? i can post over 1500 obarry has spewed in the last eight years...

msharmony's photo
Fri 12/23/16 12:12 PM
IM sure there are thousands of allegations of 'lies' on any candidate one chooses to crucify,,,


one can start here,,,https://www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/04/donald-trump-the-unauthorized-database-of-false-things.html#analysis


'lies' and allegations of 'lies' are easy to find on both sides







mightymoe's photo
Fri 12/23/16 12:15 PM

IM sure there are thousands of allegations of 'lies' on any candidate one chooses to crucify,,,


one can start here,,,http://www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/04/donald-trump-the-unauthorized-database-of-false-things.html#analysis


'lies' and allegations of 'lies' are easy to find on both sides









when you post a link, be sure and remove the "s" from the https so it will work when someone clicks it... i fixed this link for you too..drinker

msharmony's photo
Fri 12/23/16 12:16 PM
thank you, I keep forgetting that my browser does that

mightymoe's photo
Fri 12/23/16 12:25 PM

thank you, I keep forgetting that my browser does that


it's the site, not your browser... some are secured, some aren't..

adj4u's photo
Fri 12/23/16 12:32 PM




just walking by whistling lmbo

msharmony's photo
Fri 12/23/16 01:18 PM


thank you, I keep forgetting that my browser does that


it's the site, not your browser... some are secured, some aren't..



my browser has the s on every site

soufiehere's photo
Fri 12/23/16 06:00 PM
Edited for targeting other members.

soufie
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