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Topic: Recognizing a Morbid Jealous person
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Mon 09/26/16 11:34 AM
Hi everybody!
During my last relationship my knight in shining armour turned out to be a morbid jealous guy so I learned about this in the hard way.

After a couple of months he started showing this condition. He got mad if I got a call when we were together (wether I took it or not). He got mad if I drew a man's attention on the street, if a male friend left me a nice comment in FB, if I added another friend there, if I couldn't answer his call because I was busy, if I got 10 minutes later than I had said, he was jealous even of old photos or memories, he demanded to know my laptop password and every other possible passwords to my mailbox or sites. He got mad at everything and he was turning more and more violent.
One day a friend told me about this condition. There is a variety of possible causes (during childhood and adolescence) but they are sick people and need treatment.

"Morbid jealousy describes a range of irrational thoughts and emotions, together with associated unacceptable or extreme behaviour, in which the dominant theme is a preoccupation with a partner’s sexual unfaithfulness based on unfounded evidence (Cobb, 1979)"

Learning about this opened up my eyes, that's why I am sharing it here.

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Mon 09/26/16 11:51 AM
I guess it doesn't help that you look like Catherine Zeta too.

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Mon 09/26/16 12:04 PM

I guess it doesn't help that you look like Catherine Zeta too.


Wow! Best compliment ever! Thanks! lol

He was 20 years older than me... some of my friends said that maybe the age difference made it even worse. I don't know.

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Mon 09/26/16 12:42 PM


I guess it doesn't help that you look like Catherine Zeta too.


Wow! Best compliment ever! Thanks! lol

He was 20 years older than me... some of my friends said that maybe the age difference made it even worse. I don't know.

You're welcome...and yes, that age difference may have contributed to his insecurities.

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Mon 09/26/16 12:59 PM
OP, Yes most knights get thrown from their horse and prove that the shine was just the sun on the other side of them that was blinding you. Too many controlling people out there. Sorry you had to experience one of them. Better luck with your next find!

BTW, I will confirm Maxsterx is not a Knight in shining Armour, his Armour is a very rusty so he might be a good find for you... Just saying... spock

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Mon 09/26/16 01:22 PM

OP, Yes most knights get thrown from their horse and prove that the shine was just the sun on the other side of them that was blinding you. Too many controlling people out there. Sorry you had to experience one of them. Better luck with your next find!

BTW, I will confirm Maxsterx is not a Knight in shining Armour, his Armour is a very rusty so he might be a good find for you... Just saying... spock

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Hahahaha...rust never sleeps.winking

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Mon 09/26/16 01:31 PM

OP, Yes most knights get thrown from their horse and prove that the shine was just the sun on the other side of them that was blinding you. Too many controlling people out there. Sorry you had to experience one of them. Better luck with your next find!

BTW, I will confirm Maxsterx is not a Knight in shining Armour, his Armour is a very rusty so he might be a good find for you... Just saying... spock

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Thank you 2email... but I'm not sure if "controlling" and Morbid Jealous is the same thing... I love my partner to know where I am and what I'm doing, but what I experienced was violence and out of no real reason!
And... Maxterx is not a Knight in shining armour... good to know, 'cause I keep looking for a Knight... there must be one left somewhere. Lol!

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Mon 09/26/16 02:33 PM
Edited by sparkyae5 on Mon 09/26/16 02:36 PM

THIS A ONE SIDED STORY..!!!!..CAUSE I KNOW RELATIONSHIPS ARE NOT ONE

SIDED.....I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR HIS SIDE ALSO......THE GUY IS JUDGED MORBID WITH

OUT A FARE TRIAL.......

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Mon 09/26/16 02:41 PM


THIS A ONE SIDED STORY..!!!!..CAUSE I KNOW RELATIONSHIPS ARE NOT ONE

SIDED.....I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR HIS SIDE ALSO......


I'm sorry, that's impossible. Just let me say this: He was my boyfriend not my husband. I had chosen/decided to start a relationship with him... why ON Earth would I be trying to cheat on him, 2 months after we just had started! I had no need for lies. If I would have been interested in someone else, it was as simple as breaking up.
In the end he admitted to have a problem and sought psychological treatment. Unfortunately he had already killed my love, my respect and admiration so...

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Mon 09/26/16 02:50 PM


''ATTRACTION IS NOT A CHOICE'' BECAUSE ITS A EMOTIONAL CHOICE NOT A LOGICAL

CHOICE......ALL THIS STUFF IS JUST SURFACE NOISE AS YOU KNOW AS WELL....SO LETS

JUST SAY YOU PLAYED NO PART IN THE RELATIONSHIP AND CALL IT A DAY. CAUSE I

HAVE......

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Mon 09/26/16 03:03 PM

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Mon 09/26/16 03:53 PM
You lucky you managed to get away from this guy. Yes, looking like Zeta Jones probably made him even more j, and he being 20 years older( WTH were you thinkin,,,,did you need a sugar daddy at the time??)just could not handle all the attention you were getting...You are fortunate not to be locked up in some dark basement, and not allowed out....So, you should count your lucky stars and be careful what you wish for....now go find someone your age..ha ha...

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Mon 09/26/16 05:17 PM

You lucky you managed to get away from this guy. Yes, looking like Zeta Jones probably made him even more j, and he being 20 years older( WTH were you thinkin,,,,did you need a sugar daddy at the time??)just could not handle all the attention you were getting...You are fortunate not to be locked up in some dark basement, and not allowed out....So, you should count your lucky stars and be careful what you wish for....now go find someone your age..ha ha...


Thank you for your words and advice. I don't think I was searching for a sugar daddy as this man was totally broke. On the positive side, I learned to recognize the Othello syndrome from the first stages so I will know how to proceed if (God forbid) I ever encounter it again.

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Mon 09/26/16 05:20 PM

Recognizing a Morbid Jealous person


While labels are handy and help us recognise features and characteristics.

It is more important to recognise behaviours that aren't working in ours or others best interest.

Any habitual behaviour that is not in our own or others best interest can benefit from psychological treatment whether DIY or professional

Even if this chap didn't fully fill the criteria of a Morbid Jealous person there were plenty of behaviours worthy of modifying


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Mon 09/26/16 05:33 PM
Demanding passwords, and such is a sign of control and or lack or trust whether warranted or not. ..jealousy is the excuse.

either you gave him a reason not to trust you, or he wasn't trustworthy himself so he assumed you wouldn't be either...bit demanding passwords and the like, getting upset if you got a call

all signs of control, violence is another form of control. .someone scared is easier to manipulate



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Mon 09/26/16 05:58 PM


I guess it doesn't help that you look like Catherine Zeta too.


Wow! Best compliment ever! Thanks! lol

He was 20 years older than me... some of my friends said that maybe the age difference made it even worse. I don't know.


don't blame age, that just ruins it for us old folks... we're not all jealous

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Mon 09/26/16 05:58 PM


THIS A ONE SIDED STORY..!!!!..CAUSE I KNOW RELATIONSHIPS ARE NOT ONE

SIDED.....I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR HIS SIDE ALSO......THE GUY IS JUDGED MORBID WITH

OUT A FARE TRIAL.......


Dude, what law says that Wendermilliken has to give her ex a fair trial?

Sure, we won't know his side of the story, but we don't have to.

What matters is that Wendermilliken does what is best for her.

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Mon 09/26/16 10:19 PM
what law says that Wendermilliken has to give her ex a fair trial?

Sure, we won't know his side of the story, but we don't have to.

What matters is that Wendermilliken does what is best for her.

Maybe Wendermilliken isn't doing what's best for her.

I mean from the little in the OP her ex's side of the story could easily be:
"We were dating for 2 months. Then she started using her phone constantly. She'd set it on the table during a date and reach over and check it every single time it made a noise. There was never an intimate moment without her phone or her checking it.

At around the same time she started being on facebook constantly. She kept adding new guy friends. And one of her guy friends kept making comments loaded with sexual innuendo and all she'd say is 'it's a nice comment. That's just the way he is.'

We used to talk all the time. I'd call and she'd immediately answer. But then she stopped and started screening my calls. And since she's constantly attached to her phone I couldn't understand why she wasn't answering anymore.

She used to tell me where she was and what she was doing, but then she just stopped, and started hiding things from me.
One night I confronted her about it, getting frustrated, everything was changing, and the only thing I knew was she kept flirting with random guys in the street, drawing attention, and all these guys from facebook and she's hiding what she's doing. So I roughly grabbed her phone and said 'if you aren't hiding anything, why can't I see it? What's your password? You used to share with me everything you were doing, but now are hiding and running away.'

Next thing I know she's accusing me of having some mental problem called morbid jealousy and being all violent. And the thing is she said a 'friend' told her about it. And that 'friend' was the guy that was making lewd comments on her facebook. She said it was over because we fought. I tried to save things by offering to go to counseling, but she just wanted nothing to do with me anymore."

So for all anyone knows she sabotages her relationships and then tries to find something that allows her to blame the guy, or her communication skills in relationships is horrible.

That wouldn't be in her best interest to just label someone with a disorder when that might be part of the actual problem.

Without both sides of the story it's just biased BS that serves no real purpose except to generate more meaningless BS.

I mean I can read a definition of something off Web M.D., cherry pick behavior, interpret, and reword it so anyone I ever dated turns out to have anything.

Like "I dated a stand up comedian once, her dream was to go national and be famous. She also participated in online forums, where we met. She was always a little late but detested waiting in line at theaters and missing the previews, I always paid and she always ordered the large popcorn for the free refill. She was charming in silly competitions like who could fart the loudest. She smoked and slammed doors when mad.

...OMG! Center of attention? Too ambitious? Unsolicited advice? Impatient? Takes advantage? Charming and competitive? Addiction? Violence? All signs of narcissistic personality disorder! Pshew! I got rid of her to avoid a violent pathological narcissist. I need to warn people to spot these things."

People can make up anything on the internet.
Without specifics, without perspectives, it means less than nothing and could actually be bad for people.
People can read the OP and easily think "OMG. My guy gets frustrated when I'm always on the phone. My guy doesn't like that I have opposite sex friends. My guy likes football, a violent sport...he probably has that morbid jealousy thing. I better just dump him out of the blue and be thankful I spotted it in time! I was in danger! I'm going to avoid all guys that are like that from now on."

Details are extremely important if you're going to accuse people of a mental/emotional problem and advise other people to make decisions based on your experience and diagnosis.

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Mon 09/26/16 11:34 PM
Some women are so hot...they name the country after them.tongue2

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Tue 09/27/16 04:04 AM
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Demanding passwords, and such is a sign of control and or lack or trust whether warranted or not. ..jealousy is the excuse.

either you gave him a reason not to trust you, or he wasn't trustworthy himself so he assumed you wouldn't be either...bit demanding passwords and the like, getting upset if you got a call

all signs of control, violence is another form of control. .someone scared is easier to manipulate



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