Topic: Prenuptial Agreement
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Fri 06/10/16 06:01 PM
How many girls out there would agree to sign a prenuptial agreement in a new relationship? Most the people in this site had passed through a tough time in separation or termination with their partner. So would that agreement be welcomed to show a goodwill?

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Fri 06/10/16 06:22 PM
Reminds me of a Two And A Half Men episode....Charlie was worried about asking Chelsea for a prenup....he finally worked up the nerve to ask....and Chelsea says "Sure, I have several apt buildings I need to protect" Charlie got pissed laugh

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Fri 06/10/16 07:12 PM
frown indifferent what think think think think think
NO

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Fri 06/10/16 10:48 PM
How many girls out there would agree to sign a prenuptial agreement in a new relationship?

If it's a "new relationship" what exactly would the prenuptial agreement say, be agreeing to?

Wouldn't the more relevant question be "would you marry someone you barely knew, in a new relationship?"

If you meant to ask "how many girls would agree to sign a prenup in a new marriage?" wouldn't it be a little late?
Seeing as it's titled a "prenuptial" and they're asking someone to sign post nuptial?

Or are you asking "how many girls out there would agree to sign a separation of assets or facilitation of a break up mediation agreement, in a new relationship?"


Or are you asking something more simple like "would you be willing to integrate legal contracts in a romantic relationship in order to avoid any potential problems?"


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Fri 06/10/16 11:00 PM
I'm not a girl (last time I checked), but I've thought about this a little.

I go back and forth on it.

On the one hand, the whole POINT of marriage, is the blending of lives. and the dedication of each to another. From that point of view, I think that if you aren't willing to risk all, you shouldn't marry.

On the other hand, having experienced a bit of having an ex demand more than they deserved, purely out of resentment, I can understand why someone might see it as a way to get to know the person they are considering risking all with.

If someone ISN'T of the mind that it is dishonorable to try to punish their spouse financially for their emotional disappointment, it would be important to know that in advance.

Maybe what we really should do is, to make some basic "prenup" a part of EVERY marriage, by law. After all, what the idea of prenups is really about, is a defense against those who would use the purely romantic fantasy ideas about marriage, to manipulate the legal structure of the society, in order to gain unfair and unjust personal benefits at the cost of someone they claim to love.


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Fri 06/10/16 11:38 PM
In a new relationship I would laugh and walk away. This guy values his possessions way too much for me and already shows signs of being a distrusting person......beeeeeeep....NO

If it was a marital prenupt, I would sign...because what I had before I entered marriage is all I need if I left it. It's how I am anyways..


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Sat 06/11/16 01:39 AM
Edited by Duttoneer on Sat 06/11/16 01:40 AM

If you were both truly in love, I see no reason why anyone, man or woman, would refuse to sign a prenup. If a woman or man has assets before they marry, I believe it is not such a bad idea for them to protect them by a prenup. Most people have insurance to protect them from disasters happening to house, car, travel, etc. Why should people not protect themselves against a disastrous marriage (it happens) by having a prenup agreement, to at least safeguard that which each have before the marriage. Here is an extreme example of no prenup :-

Sir Paul McCartney has admitted that his marriage to Heather Mills was one of the biggest mistakes of his life. After an acrimonious six-day hearing, Miss Mills walked away with a settlement of £24.3 million, plus payments of £35,000 per annum, for a nanny and school costs for their daughter Beatrice.

see

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1234774/Sir-Paul-McCartney-admits-marriage-Heather-Mills-biggest-mistake.html


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Sat 06/11/16 04:22 AM
"So would that agreement be welcomed to show a goodwill?"


So in other words, if a woman does NOT sign, then she is NOT showing 'good will' ?

Hhaa.. But asking her to & give up her rights, is showing, 'good will'?

Unless a woman has finances, or a legacy to protect, she would be a fool to sign, (especially if it was written by his lawyer only),
Noway. noway

Besides, there are other things in a marriage contract, besides money.
Example: Adultery, sexual frequency, time spent together, children, extended family, business, property, vacations; Almost anything, can be added & all have 'terms & conditions', to make it not only 'valid', but 'null & void' & with penalties and/or forfeit.


Good luck with all that

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Sat 06/11/16 05:28 AM
If my man would want us to have a prenuptial agreement, I will consider signing it.
As long as he is a good provider, I see no reason for me to be hard on him.
However, i just think that an agreement like that is made if, and only if, the man has massive assets. Hahahaha. It's overrated if he only has a 90sqm house and will demand a prenup.

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Sat 06/11/16 05:44 AM
Honestly I have watched too many go through divorce and the man/woman be left scratching their azz due to the other took or tried to take everything they own.. My own brother and nephew just went through a divorce..

Myself even told my brother that if he got married or even lived with someone full time again, he better have his *** covered next time..

And I got news for you, you do not have to be married to them for them to drag you to court and take your stuff you worked hard for away from you...noway

I don't have much but what I do is mine I worked hard to pay off a house ect...


Pre-nups are to protect what you already have and worked hard for..

Myself hell yea I would sign one but not before it was agreed on we would keep what ever we came in the marriage with anything they buy you during the marriage or acquire during should be split at the end. You should not have to walk away and have no way to start over.. But no way should you be able to take everything someone had prior to meeting you..

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Sat 06/11/16 06:16 AM
I think for any of us who have already spend 20 years or so
working to build a family, home only to see
all the asserts brutally listed out and divided up..


and then have to begin the process all over again
in middle age



well this little piece of paper makes sense..


I understand how two people with their own jobs, 401k's and homes would want to protect themselves
going into it with their eyes wide open

and yet..
there is a part of me that thinks that something has been lost



but perhaps that is youth, being naive and full of hope for the future

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Sat 06/11/16 07:12 AM
It would make sense to settle the What-Ifs and questions of Property in case things don't work out before-hand,instead when things have really gone South,and there is really all-round bad blood !

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Sat 06/11/16 07:20 AM
Edited by TMommy on Sat 06/11/16 07:25 AM
man I gotta tell ya this story of my father in law
who married a Black Widow


you know what those are?


okay so he was retired and like many Michiganders
he was a snow bird

spent his summer months here
his winter months in Florida

well he moved into one of those retirement commmunities
full of trailers and shuffleboard, horseshoes
and golf carts


he met this woman who lived there
and began dating her
man she must of been good
because this man had been married til death do you part
35 years to my mother in law
he had a doctoral degree in education

they were married after only a few months
he flew all the kids/spouses and grandkids down for it

they were divorced shortly after the honey moon to the Virgin Islands


at the wedding her grown kids were there
this was a church wedding but her kids did not try to speak to any of us
which I found odd
and sat around talking about how they were going to the keys to drink
beer and hang out

never said congrats and hardly spoke to their own mother


turns out this was her 5th marriage
her trailer was almost empty
and junky and so was her little white car

my father in law ( thank God) was smart enough
to have his money divided up into trust funds
for the grand kids

she could not touch it
and left the marriage with what she walked into it with

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Sat 06/11/16 10:18 AM
I had a pre-nup with the last wife, smartest thing I did, although, she brought it up in every fight we had, then she tried to tell me, she had a lawyer look at it and said it wasn't valid, but it was, because she thought because she didn't have an attorney review it with her it wasn't because she said she didn't understand what it said. But funny, I had her handwritten changes she wanted made to it before it was final. Yes, a judge would have see that and questions, if she didn't understand it, why did she want revisions made to it. I explained that lawyers are always looking to screw you out of money and if she wanted to fight it, then pony up the lawyer fees. (I also had in it that if it was challenged, the challenger needed to pay the attorney cost). So that shut her lying cheating trap.

That document saved my azz thousands, maybe hundred of thousands of dollars, even though she still got me for a sports car and a rental house, but I would have given more to get rid of her lying cheating ***.

My advice, is if one of you have assets and the other doesn't have a pot to piss in, then don't go blind into the marriage, since 50% of them fail, even higher for 2nd and 3rd times.